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What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
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Abortion (Read 227320 times)

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #700 on: June 18, 2021, 08:02:14 AM »
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aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #701 on: June 18, 2021, 08:54:48 AM »
JUST IN: Catholic Bishops Advance Policy That Could Deny Communion for Biden, Pelosi Over Abortion

https://hannity.com/media-room/just-in-catholic-bishops-advance-policy-that-could-deny-communion-for-biden-pelosi-over-abortion/

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changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #702 on: June 18, 2021, 09:15:00 AM »
So I've stayed out of this thread for a while but here's my 2 cents.

I treat abortion like rights.  By removing the option, you take it away from everyone.  But by allowing it, 1 can choose to get 1 or not.  And that decision would be based on their own morals/ethics and situation.  And they will have to live with what they have done for X reason.  What another person wants to do is none of my business.

There are many situations that could warrant 1 and just as many that don't.  So again, it all falls on each individuals own morals/situation.

My POV is coming as guy who fucked around a lot b4 getting married and had a few prego scares.  So abortion was always on the table.  That's probably my main drive to being OK with it.  Had I not been able to score as often, maybe my POV might have been different.

What I think should be done is for the father for an unmarried couple to agree to pay any child support.  If no agreement is signed, then they are off the hook forever and all finances falls on the woman.  Since the man has zero say in an abortion or not.
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ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #703 on: June 18, 2021, 03:58:31 PM »
to pay for your abortion go here: https://venmo.com/ and send to "IAmOneofTheLuckyOnes"
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aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #704 on: June 21, 2021, 12:17:44 PM »
‘He Supports the Right to Choose’ – Psaki When Asked if Biden Believes a 15-Week-Old Unborn Baby is a Human Being (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/supports-right-choose-psaki-asked-biden-believes-15-week-old-unborn-baby-human-video/

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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #705 on: June 21, 2021, 12:55:19 PM »
Quote from: aletheuo137 on June 21, 2021, 12:17:44 PM
‘He Supports the Right to Choose’ – Psaki When Asked if Biden Believes a 15-Week-Old Unborn Baby is a Human Being (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/supports-right-choose-psaki-asked-biden-believes-15-week-old-unborn-baby-human-video/

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Go Biden!  If only he adjusted some his other ideas he would be an even better president.   Hope he realizes the same freedom to choose applies to guns too.
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changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #706 on: June 21, 2021, 01:03:18 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on June 21, 2021, 12:55:19 PM
Go Biden!  If only he adjusted some his other ideas he would be an even better president.   Hope he realizes the same freedom to choose applies to guns too.

Same could be said with your belief in Trump. "if only he adjusted some his other ideas, he would be an even better president."
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oldfart

Re: Abortion
« Reply #707 on: June 21, 2021, 01:22:51 PM »
I support the baby's right to choose whether or not he/she lives or dies.
Nobody ever thinks about asking the baby.
If I put a loudspeaker up against the womb and asked the baby if it would prefer to live or die, what would be the response?

Yup the baby would just keep on living (most of the time).
Well you could argue that the baby doesn't understand.....but if you asked a 1 month old baby the same question would they understand?
How about a 2 month old? Or 3 or 4 month old?

I guess I support the right to choose after all. As long as EVERYONE has the right, including the baby.
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aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #708 on: June 21, 2021, 02:16:44 PM »
Quote from: oldfart on June 21, 2021, 01:22:51 PM
I support the baby's right to choose whether or not he/she lives or dies.
Nobody ever thinks about asking the baby.
If I put a loudspeaker up against the womb and asked the baby if it would prefer to live or die, what would be the response?

Yup the baby would just keep on living (most of the time).
Well you could argue that the baby doesn't understand.....but if you asked a 1 month old baby the same question would they understand?
How about a 2 month old? Or 3 or 4 month old?

I guess I support the right to choose after all. As long as EVERYONE has the right, including the baby.
Ditto!

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #709 on: June 21, 2021, 02:20:54 PM »
Ronald Reagan describes his involvement in the abortion question...

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #710 on: June 21, 2021, 02:25:35 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on June 21, 2021, 01:03:18 PM
Same could be said with your belief in Trump. "if only he adjusted some his other ideas, he would be an even better president."

True, but Biden has less ideas/personality to adjust in my opinion.   
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #711 on: June 21, 2021, 02:26:01 PM »
Quote from: oldfart on June 21, 2021, 01:22:51 PM
I support the baby's right to choose whether or not he/she lives or dies.
Nobody ever thinks about asking the baby.
If I put a loudspeaker up against the womb and asked the baby if it would prefer to live or die, what would be the response?

Yup the baby would just keep on living (most of the time).
Well you could argue that the baby doesn't understand.....but if you asked a 1 month old baby the same question would they understand?
How about a 2 month old? Or 3 or 4 month old?

I guess I support the right to choose after all. As long as EVERYONE has the right, including the baby.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #712 on: June 21, 2021, 02:29:45 PM »
Quote from: oldfart on June 21, 2021, 01:22:51 PM
I support the baby's right to choose whether or not he/she lives or dies.
Nobody ever thinks about asking the baby.
If I put a loudspeaker up against the womb and asked the baby if it would prefer to live or die, what would be the response?

Yup the baby would just keep on living (most of the time).
Well you could argue that the baby doesn't understand.....but if you asked a 1 month old baby the same question would they understand?
How about a 2 month old? Or 3 or 4 month old?

I guess I support the right to choose after all. As long as EVERYONE has the right, including the baby.

There would be no response its not alive/sentient.  You would have better luck trying to ask a potato,  or the hair that you shed.    If you use that "understanding" argument then everything is alive.  Dogs deserve human status, fish, whales etc.  Are they all humans?  Are you Vegan?

Treat it as something in the present not what its far future can be.  We all would be worse than Hitler for all the missing children from sperm or for the ladies, periods.  Once sentience is gained its gained for life until death or permanent loss of mind.  But its not retroactive. 
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macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #713 on: June 21, 2021, 02:46:01 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on June 21, 2021, 02:25:35 PM
True, but Biden has less ideas/personality to adjust in my opinion.

first time EVAR
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changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #714 on: June 21, 2021, 03:02:38 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on June 21, 2021, 02:25:35 PM
True, but Biden has less ideas/personality to adjust in my opinion.
If trump adjusted said attitude/ideas he would be a better president
 Feelings>results

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #715 on: June 21, 2021, 03:17:22 PM »
If you vote for a president based on personality, I strongly suggest you never vote in the general election ever again.

That likely applies to state and local elections, too, since it's difficult to see you changing that criteria based on the level of office.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #716 on: June 21, 2021, 03:27:19 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on June 21, 2021, 03:02:38 PM
If trump adjusted said attitude/ideas he would be a better president
 Feelings>results

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Applies to results too.  Biden so far has produced more results that I like than Trump.  Adjusting to amount of time in office.
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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #717 on: June 21, 2021, 03:28:59 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on June 21, 2021, 03:17:22 PM
If you vote for a president based on personality, I strongly suggest you never vote in the general election ever again.

That likely applies to state and local elections, too, since it's difficult to see you changing that criteria based on the level of office.

Personality is just one facet to factor.  You can't ignore it.  Its added to the equation of a politician.  I don't ignore it, neither do I solely base my opinion on it.  It was one of many of Trumps flaws and things I disagreed with. Much like his stances on issues like abortion (this threads topic). 
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macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #718 on: June 21, 2021, 03:46:08 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on June 21, 2021, 03:17:22 PM
If you vote for a president based on personality, I strongly suggest you never vote in the general election ever again.

That likely applies to state and local elections, too, since it's difficult to see you changing that criteria based on the level of office.

i'm guessing he votes for the candidates that are likely to support lots of state jobs...
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changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #719 on: June 21, 2021, 04:20:46 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on June 21, 2021, 03:27:19 PM
Applies to results too.  Biden so far has produced more results that I like than Trump.  Adjusting to amount of time in office.
Name what results that u like?

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