Poll

What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
27

Abortion (Read 227293 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #720 on: June 21, 2021, 04:22:42 PM »
i'm guessing he votes for the candidates that are likely to support lots of state jobs...
Or killing thousands of jobs then telling said jobless to learn something else is not mean.

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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #721 on: June 21, 2021, 04:49:32 PM »
Name what results that u like?

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Abortion related policies.  Vaccine policies.  Global political policies.   Eco/gas policies.  The world has a more favorable opinion of us. Said FU to china recently in the g2 summit.  Isn't Putin's friend.  I think he handled the covid crisis pretty decent.  He's pro choice and pro freedom of rights. 

Mostly the main things I disagree is just gun and immigration policies so far.  Oh and the BLM and race relations.  Though might be forgetting some.


Trump was anti abortion,  and had unfavorable environmental policies.  He also was hated on the world stage with an unfavorable opinion.  He fucked up on China and Russia.  He did good on vaccine and immigration.  At the same time other than the vaccine he mostly handled Covid unfavorably (except the very beginning where he rightfully banned flights).  He was neutral on gun policies. 
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changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #722 on: June 21, 2021, 05:58:49 PM »
Hahahahahaha

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #723 on: June 21, 2021, 06:12:54 PM »
Hahahahahaha

Results?  What's that?

Symbolism over substance.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #724 on: June 21, 2021, 06:36:38 PM »
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #725 on: June 21, 2021, 06:42:37 PM »
Results?  What's that?

Symbolism over substance.

Sounds like Trump  :shaka:

"Make America great again",  great slogan.  No results. 

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #726 on: June 21, 2021, 07:15:00 PM »
Deeds Not Words

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #727 on: June 22, 2021, 06:06:49 AM »


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groveler

Re: Abortion
« Reply #728 on: June 22, 2021, 06:53:40 AM »


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AMEN! MF.
You want to butcher your mistakes, YOU pay for it! not me.
I say that as a stepfather, that raised, and loves a "Mistake".

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #729 on: June 22, 2021, 06:56:01 AM »
Doesn't work like that.   There's many things I don't support that my tax dollars gets used for.   😒  That's just life.   

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #730 on: June 22, 2021, 08:31:32 AM »

Deeds Not Words

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #731 on: June 22, 2021, 08:32:28 AM »


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a liar...glad we don't have anyone like this on this forum...
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #732 on: June 22, 2021, 09:38:27 AM »
a liar...glad we don't have anyone like this on this forum...

Trumps the biggest liar of them all.  Remember don't be hypocritical.  Stand by your statement. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #733 on: June 22, 2021, 09:41:31 AM »
Trumps the biggest liar of them all.  Remember don't be hypocritical.  Stand by your statement. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

Doesn't understand the difference between a lie and changing ones opinion.

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #734 on: June 22, 2021, 09:46:54 AM »
Doesn't understand the difference between a lie and changing ones opinion.

Apparently to ren, one can't.  Read his post, read it again slowly, then read it one last time.  :shaka:

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #735 on: June 22, 2021, 10:05:26 AM »
Apparently to ren, one can't.  Read his post, read it again slowly, then read it one last time.  :shaka:

#doesntknowhowtousereaditagainslowlyphrase
#doesntknowhowtousefocus
#doesntecon101
#etc...

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #736 on: June 22, 2021, 10:44:27 AM »
Deeds Not Words

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #737 on: June 25, 2021, 03:00:20 PM »
Strong majority of Americans believe abortion should be restricted after three months of pregnancy

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/strong-majority-americans-believe-abortion-should-be-restricted-after-three-months

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #738 on: June 25, 2021, 03:12:10 PM »
Strong majority of Americans believe abortion should be restricted after three months of pregnancy

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/strong-majority-americans-believe-abortion-should-be-restricted-after-three-months

Not a new revelation.

How Democrats purged ‘safe, legal, rare’ from the party
The party’s absolutist stance on abortion is out of step with voters’ views.

November 15, 2019

Quote
That abortions should be “safe, legal and rare” was, until fairly recently, a common
Democratic talking point. Coined by President Bill Clinton, the phrase signaled his
desire to protect the supposed constitutional right to abortion while acknowledging
the views of people with moral qualms about the practice and perhaps even winning
a few of them over to his side. It helped cement Clinton’s reputation as a moderate.

Today, Democrats use the phrase at their peril. The party’s base appears unwilling
to tolerate a slogan that suggests abortion ought to be “rare,” hearing in it too much
of a concession to abortion opponents. As a result, most Democratic candidates have
erased from their rhetoric any hint that abortion might be a subject on which reasonable
people can disagree, and they’ve altered their policy proposals to match — endorsing
the repeal of all restrictions on paying for abortions with federal money, for example.
These moves might excite the party’s progressive base, but they put candidates
out of step with the average American and even with many of their own voters.

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Even so, it makes little sense for Democrats to move so far left on this issue that they
leave behind general-election Democratic voters — never mind independents and wavering
Republicans. Nearly 30 percent of Democrats describe themselves as pro-life, according to
a recent Gallup poll. And while 77 percent “generally” support abortion rights in the first
trimester, Gallup finds, the number drops to 46 percent by the second semester and to a
paltry 18 percent by the third. (And Democratic women are actually more opposed to second-
and third-trimester abortions than Democratic men, these polls say.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/how-democrats-purged-safe-legal-rare-from-the-party/2019/11/15/369af73c-01a4-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html

Support for abortion by trimester based on DEMOCRAT respondent's answers:

1st:  77%
2nd:  46%
3rd:  18%

The numbers show how bipartisan the pro-life stance is.  It's not just a Republican position.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

pewpewgoesthegun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #739 on: June 25, 2021, 03:42:58 PM »
Strong majority of Americans believe abortion should be restricted after three months of pregnancy

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/strong-majority-americans-believe-abortion-should-be-restricted-after-three-months

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I'm curious, would pro-lifers be ok with this compromise?