Poll

What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
27

Abortion (Read 227142 times)

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1060 on: September 08, 2021, 04:15:09 PM »
Obviously everyone here gets their meals magically pre done.   There's no process, like a childbirth.  No animals or plants raised for the potential.  No food cooked.  Meh

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1061 on: September 08, 2021, 04:32:20 PM »
Calling the comparisons he posts "analogies" is being generous.

His main reason for posting so many bad analogies is he doesn't understand the subject at all, much less enough to lecture on it.  You can't easily compare/contrast one thing with another unless you already understand the first thing.




And so he can move goal post later one.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1062 on: September 08, 2021, 04:49:34 PM »
Obviously everyone here gets their meals magically pre done.   There's no process, like a childbirth.  No animals or plants raised for the potential.  No food cooked.  Meh

When you're able to create a living human in your microwave, let us know.  Otherwise, just another bad analogy.

Not all food needs cooking or cultivating.  Ever hear of hunting and gathering?  Eating off the land?  Is seafood cooked in all countries? 

Your analogy has more holes than your head -- which says a lot!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1063 on: September 08, 2021, 04:50:12 PM »
Why do you have no arguments other than "If every other nation is willing to jump off a building, then we should, too?"

How do you know the religious beliefs of the bills authors?  You know them all personally?

Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House and a self-affirmed Catholic -- as are many Democrats in Congress -- as is Joe Biden.

You seem to be a mindreader, able to pick out which official actions are based on religion, and which are not.  I know I've heard Pelosi invoke her religious beliefs on occasion to rationalize her decisions.  Haven't heard anyone (you) complain yet.

Seems religion is fine until a law is passed you don't agree with -- then you cry "pushing their religious beliefs!"  Grow up.  There will always be an overlap between Christian and other religious teachings with people's jobs.  You can't sterilize the government of religious teachings and values any more than you can rid it of Socialism or Liberalism.  Ideologies exist.  Unless the law is demonstrably about religion, you have no legal basis to argue.

Interesting the topics collide again. (From Religion thread)
What is the legal basis for banning abortion?

Back to square one.
Moral or ending a life ?
« Last Edit: September 08, 2021, 04:59:53 PM by aieahound »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1064 on: September 08, 2021, 04:51:23 PM »
Interesting the topics collide again.
What is the legal basis for banning abortion?

#FAKE NEWS

Who banned abortions?

Nobody.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1065 on: September 08, 2021, 05:01:06 PM »
Who’d I say banned abortions ?

Like is frequently said here.
Learn to read.

And did you check the poll at the top of thread ?
Members have opinions on this.

Can’t google that stuff. I know it puts you at a disadvantage.

P.S.
and if you folks hate this derailment on and on crap between Flapp and me, think about the endless replies to Umni.
And stupid shit like commenting on his education, lack of logic and research, GPA and spelling and grammar.
As Flapp likes to flout, and then hypcrotize,” but adds nothing to the conversation. “ ( that’s a paraphrase cause he’ll to go those exact words)
Although most of you gotta admit, I’m kinda on point. (Not Flapp of course. He won’t admit anything. Deflect and insult.)
« Last Edit: September 08, 2021, 05:24:41 PM by aieahound »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1066 on: September 08, 2021, 05:21:18 PM »
Who’d I say banned abortions ?

Maybe you need to read what you posted:

Interesting the topics collide again. (From Religion thread)
What is the legal basis for banning abortion?

Why ask a question about the legal basis for banning abortions if nobody is doing it?  Just a straw argument?

Either you think someone (TX?) banned abortions, or you're just trolling to start arguments.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1067 on: September 08, 2021, 05:27:13 PM »
Maybe you need to read what you posted:

Why ask a question about the legal basis for banning abortions if nobody is doing it?  Just a straw argument?

Either you think someone (TX?) banned abortions, or you're just trolling to start arguments.

And there is no gun "control" with that logic.  Its a defacto ban.  That would be like if Hawaii introduced a civil law that anyone can sue for 10k if you own ammo.  Flapp:  "I swear guys its not banned"  its not illegal.  Or better yet cause you bitch and moan about analogies.  In Hawaii you can conceal carry.  Its legally allowed just need to get a permit. 

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1068 on: September 08, 2021, 05:32:52 PM »
Maybe you need to read what you posted:

I did. You should

Why ask a question about the legal basis for banning abortions if nobody is doing it?  Just a straw argument?
Either you think someone (TX?) banned abortions, or you're just trolling to start arguments.

How the Fawk is that trolling ?
How is it even arguing ?

Poll above.

We got over 55% saying never or or only in cases of incest or rape.
If you can’t discuss stuff, just leave the conversation.
And just for you I’ll change the question so you’re head doesn’t explode.

If it’s not illegal, at what point does it become illegal ?
6 weeks when there’s a perceived heart heart but no cardiovascular system and most women don’t even know their pregnant ?
10 weeks when cardiovascular system starts to develop ?
24 weeks when it’s viable outside the womb (with intense medical care)?
Until the date of birth when you smother it with a pillow ? (That was just for emphasis)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1069 on: September 08, 2021, 05:33:56 PM »
And there is no gun "control" with that logic.  Its a defacto ban.  That would be like if Hawaii introduced a civil law that anyone can sue for 10k if you own ammo.  Flapp:  "I swear guys its not banned"  its not illegal.  Or better yet cause you bitch and moan about analogies.  In Hawaii you can conceal carry.  Its legally allowed just need to get a permit.

LOL!  Now you're tag teaming me again!

That's so special...Bless your hearts.   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1070 on: September 08, 2021, 05:35:46 PM »
Poll above.

We got over 55% saying never or or only in cases of incest or rape.
If you can’t discuss stuff, just leave the conversation.
And just for you I’ll change the question so you’re head doesn’t explode.

If it’s not illegal, at what point does it become illegal ?
6 weeks when there’s a perceived heart heart but no cardiovascular system and most women don’t even know their pregnant ?
10 weeks when cardiovascular system starts to develop ?
24 weeks when it’s viable outside the womb (with intense medical care)?
Until the date of birth when you smother it with a pillow ? (That was just for emphasis)

So a poll is now a ban?  Since when?  Oh ... since you needed something to prop up your straw argument. LOL!!

One

More

Time ....

Who is BANNING ABORTIONS?

ANSWER THE FAWKING QUESTION!!   :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1071 on: September 08, 2021, 05:37:21 PM »
No one.
I answered it if you read.
And never said it in the first place…if you read.

Divert and insult.
The classic retreat move of our four named member.

Now can you answer a direct question?
They seem to elude you.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1072 on: September 08, 2021, 05:40:19 PM »
No one.
I answered it if you read.
And never said it in the first place…if you read.

Divert and insult.
The classic retreat move of our four named member.

Now can you answer a direct question?
They seem to elude you.

So, what was the premise for asking "What is the legal basis for banning abortion?"

Or, are you just trolling?

Next, just try asking, "Can I keep a unicorn at my house if it's not zoned for livestock?"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1073 on: September 08, 2021, 05:48:36 PM »
So, what was the premise for asking "What is the legal basis for banning abortion?"
Or, are you just trolling?
Next, just try asking, "Can I keep a unicorn at my house if it's not zoned for livestock?"

Topic was abortion. Sorry. That must have been confusing.
Was that a goal post you moved ?
Are you desperate for attention?
And thank you for illustrating my point.
I know it’s frustrating when you can’t google it.

And if I found a unicorn, I don’t think I’d keep it. My yard is too small.
Unless it followed me home.

Just another bad analogy.
Your analogy has more holes than your head -- which says a lot!
Can you spell hypocrite ?

Now can you answer a direct question?
They seem to elude you.

Apparently you cannot.
Keeping your streak alive though. Something to be proud of ?
« Last Edit: September 08, 2021, 07:02:38 PM by aieahound »

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1074 on: September 08, 2021, 06:28:35 PM »
Back to our original programming cause Flapp can’t keep up.

What is the legal basis for banning abortion ?
And
If it’s not illegal, at what point does it become illegal ?
Point of conception?
6 weeks when there’s a perceived heart beat but no cardiovascular system and most women don’t even know their pregnant ?(that became an OpEd because I threw in the last part. )
10 weeks when cardiovascular system starts to develop ?
24 weeks when it’s viable outside the womb (with intense medical care)?
Until the date of birth when you smother it with a pillow ? (That was just for emphasis)

Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1075 on: September 08, 2021, 07:08:29 PM »
I find it pretty ironic that Liberal J-Offs say they are Vegan because they dont want to kill anything with a face, but have no problem aborting a fetus who gets its 'face' at 8 weeks.

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1076 on: September 08, 2021, 07:17:39 PM »

Glasser

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1077 on: September 08, 2021, 07:30:09 PM »
Here is a primer for what the TX bill actually is, maybe read about exactly what it says? People who cant read need not apply.


https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/08/heres-your-guide-to-whats-going-on-with-texass-baby-saving-heartbeat-law/

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1078 on: September 08, 2021, 08:59:51 PM »
“ The Texas Heartbeat Act is unique among abortion laws in that it does not impose criminal sanctions or administrative penalties on those who violate the statute, and it specifically prohibits state officials from enforcing the law. Instead, the Heartbeat Act authorizes private civil lawsuits to be brought against those who violate the law, and provides that these private citizen-enforcement suits are the sole means of enforcing the statutory prohibition on post-heartbeat abortions.”

 :wtf: Is that?
End around?
Sure spun the Supreme Courts head.
Tip of the cap to the attorney that thought it up.

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #1079 on: September 08, 2021, 10:34:50 PM »
I find it pretty ironic that Liberal J-Offs say they are Vegan because they dont want to kill anything with a face, but have no problem aborting a fetus who gets its 'face' at 8 weeks.

A face only you/your mother could love  :shaka: :rofl: