reeducation camps (Read 18090 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2020, 04:01:18 PM »
In that analogy I would say some of the "liberals" are shifting to the left (green) and some of the "conservatives" are shifting to the right (purple) then.  How's that?   Cause some on the far right are waving nazi flags and I would say the ones banning lbgt marriage, abortion and adding "god" back to government.  And the far left is going full socialism, reparations, antifa.   That doesn't discount both sides are going to according to you the new "colors".

I don't give a fuck what YOU'D say.  What we want -- what we told you over and over -- is provide EVIDENCE that "such and such" is the case.

I provided evidence that the REDS have only shifted to (YOUR) PURPLE by an insignificant 2%.

INSIGNIFICANT.  Need a thesaurus, or are you good with that word? 

I don't care if someone is waving a Nazi flag or burning a US Flag.  Neither is illegal -- it's protected political expression.

Do you have stats on a sudden INCREASE in Nazi flag waving?  People going to Nazi meetings?  Registering with the Nazi party?  Anything?  Anything at all to say waving Nazi flags is trending higher?

I bet not.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2020, 12:51:02 AM »
To really understand what is going on, you have to look at it through the lens of class warfare. Populist anger has finally boiled over and now the wealthiest and most powerful Americans are terrified because their media influence stopped working. Non-wealthy righties are supporting Trump in a last ditch effort to try and make the system work, while lefties of all stripes seem want to flush it all down the drain and start over with race-based totalitarianism.
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2020, 06:28:37 AM »
To really understand what is going on, you have to look at it through the lens of class warfare. Populist anger has finally boiled over and now the wealthiest and most powerful Americans are terrified because their media influence stopped working. Non-wealthy righties are supporting Trump in a last ditch effort to try and make the system work, while lefties of all stripes seem want to flush it all down the drain and start over with race-based totalitarianism.


Democrats they are the party of the anti rich since when is Trump and Republicans that?   
Democrats want socialism which is anti rich. 
I do agree Democrats want some weird race based socialism, wouldn't say totalitarianism.

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2020, 06:32:21 AM »
I don't give a fuck what YOU'D say.  What we want -- what we told you over and over -- is provide EVIDENCE that "such and such" is the case.

I provided evidence that the REDS have only shifted to (YOUR) PURPLE by an insignificant 2%.

INSIGNIFICANT.  Need a thesaurus, or are you good with that word? 

I don't care if someone is waving a Nazi flag or burning a US Flag.  Neither is illegal -- it's protected political expression.

Do you have stats on a sudden INCREASE in Nazi flag waving?  People going to Nazi meetings?  Registering with the Nazi party?  Anything?  Anything at all to say waving Nazi flags is trending higher?

I bet not.

And my evidence shows a 12ish percent increase.   If you looked at the graph.  I agree with you all that shit is protect speech. I'm just giving you a simple example.

drck1000

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2020, 07:00:31 AM »
Democrats are anti-rich?

Not those that “have theirs”.

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2020, 07:05:19 AM »
Democrats are anti-rich?

Not those that “have theirs”.

I mean all they do is preach tax the wealthy.  Biden is running off over if you make 400k+ you gonna get taxed.  Hardly call that pro-rich....

drck1000

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2020, 07:08:33 AM »
I mean all they do is preach tax the wealthy.  Biden is running off over if you make 400k+ you gonna get taxed.  Hardly call that pro-rich....
Do the practice what they “preach”?

Do they (politicians and liberal elites) effectively follow the rules that they pontificate (not “correct” wording, but chosen for a reason)?

ren

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2020, 08:07:40 AM »

Democrats they are the party of the anti rich since when is Trump and Republicans that?   
Democrats want socialism which is anti rich. 
I do agree Democrats want some weird race based socialism, wouldn't say totalitarianism.

Democrats are the party of hypocrites
https://www.latimes.com/projects/how-much-are-they-worth/maxine-waters/

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/how-much-money-is-nancy-pelosi-worth
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2020, 08:18:28 AM »

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2020, 08:19:54 AM »
Do the practice what they “preach”?

Do they (politicians and liberal elites) effectively follow the rules that they pontificate (not “correct” wording, but chosen for a reason)?

They do tend to raise taxes on the rich so I would say they practice what they "preach".   

ren

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2020, 08:32:04 AM »
I mean I can link rich republicans too.  Both sides got rich people.

please do because Republicans are not telling us that being rich is a crime
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2020, 09:01:13 AM »
Let's critically reflect:

1.  Middle Class and Poor Republicans - believe and want a return, to the old American Republic (i.e., MAGA)

2.  Middle Class and Poor Democrats - believe in a revised American Republic, with perhaps an updated US Constitution and BiIl of Rights, with more emphasis, on a multitude of issues : race, income, gender, abortion, etc.

3.  Rich Republicans and Democrats - two cheeks, of the same buttock, whose ultrawealthy leadership will placate the middle and lower income faithful following, of both their respectful parties, against one another, while solidifying and consolidating their power, wealth, and position, in the global US empire.

drck1000

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2020, 09:05:07 AM »
They do tend to raise taxes on the rich so I would say they practice what they "preach".
No (edit to add, not what I meant). Do they have the same healthcare that they push on the “masses”. Do they follow the same rules as the “masses”? Or do they make up rules that benefit themselves? 

Tax on the rich thing, I’m not anywhere near a tax expert, but from what I’ve seen, it doesn’t “hurt” the politicians making those rules.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2020, 09:16:11 AM »

Democrats they are the party of the anti rich since when is Trump and Republicans that?   
Democrats want socialism which is anti rich. 
I do agree Democrats want some weird race based socialism, wouldn't say totalitarianism.

If Democrats are the anti-rich, why are the big banks, corporations and billionaires supporting Biden?  Same for Hillary.  Same for Obama.

The propaganda lives strongly in you.  You're deluded into believing what they want you to believe.

When Obama got a blank check for his stimulus spending, the lions share went to big banks, unions (GM and Chrysler, teachers, etc), and green energy sector companies who gave extremely generously to his campaign.  Compensation for the money they gave to guarantee his election.

Hillary reaped the same big money, only that slot machine failed to pay off for them.

Trump doesn't want to punish the rich for being rich.  He wants EVERYBODY to be as wealthy as possible.  Lower taxes, less regulation, and better foreign trade deals have helped give everyone more opportunity to earn money and keep more of it.  The wealthy have the capital needed to build and grow.  If they take the risks, why not let them earn a profit?

Wealth envy won't make you better off, even if gov't took their wealth and divided it among the lower class.  That money would be gone, and so would the capital.  Taxes are usually passed down to the consumer anyway, so heavy corporate taxes solve nothing.  It only give the gov't more money (aka power).

So, keep believing the Dems are for the poor.  Ever wonder why the cities with the most homeless and in most living in poverty are run by Dems?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2020, 09:16:34 AM »
No (edit to add, not what I meant). Do they have the same healthcare that they push on the “masses”. Do they follow the same rules as the “masses”? Or do they make up rules that benefit themselves? 

Tax on the rich thing, I’m not anywhere near a tax expert, but from what I’ve seen, it doesn’t “hurt” the politicians making those rules.

I'm not sure about the Healthcare or rules. I just know if you raise the tax % and they make over that they have to pay more.   Most democrats are not that rich they tend to demonize the rich and try and raise taxes on them.   You know the whole socialism tier stuff.   

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2020, 09:18:12 AM »
please do because Republicans are not telling us that being rich is a crime

What?  I support being rich and capitalism.  I think the Democrats are stupid to go after the rich.   I think you misunderstanding me because you think I'm a liberal. 

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2020, 09:21:02 AM »
If Democrats are the anti-rich, why are the big banks, corporations and billionaires supporting Biden?  Same for Hillary.  Same for Obama.

The propaganda lives strongly in you.  You're deluded into believing what they want you to believe.

When Obama got a blank check for his stimulus spending, the lions share went to big banks, unions (GM and Chrysler, teachers, etc), and green energy sector companies who gave extremely generously to his campaign.  Compensation for the money they gave to guarantee his election.

Hillary reaped the same big money, only that slot machine failed to pay off for them.

Trump doesn't want to punish the rich for being rich.  He wants EVERYBODY to be as wealthy as possible.  Lower taxes, less regulation, and better foreign trade deals have helped give everyone more opportunity to earn money and keep more of it.  The wealthy have the capital needed to build and grow.  If they take the risks, why not let them earn a profit?

Wealth envy won't make you better off, even if gov't took their wealth and divided it among the lower class.  That money would be gone, and so would the capital.  Taxes are usually passed down to the consumer anyway, so heavy corporate taxes solve nothing.  It only give the gov't more money (aka power).

So, keep believing the Dems are for the poor.  Ever wonder why the cities with the most homeless and in most living in poverty are run by Dems?

Wait wait hol up?  You know i'm being anti democrat here right?  I'm literally trying to say the democrats have it wrong, and you guys are trying to argue with me...democrats lean to socialism which is anti rich people.  They want to rebalance the wealth.  Raise taxes sky high on people who make more money....

drck1000

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2020, 09:24:23 AM »
Wait wait hol up?  You know i'm being anti democrat here right?  I'm literally trying to say the democrats have it wrong, and you guys are trying to argue with me...democrats lean to socialism which is anti rich people.  They want to rebalance the wealth.  Raise taxes sky high on people who make more money....
I’m saying you are not seeing the forest for the trees. Ok. Think elite and follower dynamic for a minute.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2020, 09:24:29 AM »
I'm not sure about the Healthcare or rules. I just know if you raise the tax % and they make over that they have to pay more.   Most democrats are not that rich they tend to demonize the rich and try and raise taxes on them.   You know the whole socialism tier stuff.

Over half of Congress are MILLIONAIRES, many qualify as multi-millionaires.  They got that way in office.

They decide if the laws apply to themselves.  They can exempt themselves if they so desire.  One example was being able to profit from insider information.  They recently passed a new law eliminating that privilege which the rest of us would go to prison for (Martha Stewart?).  They aren't required to buy into the ACA.  The top Dems in CA live in multi-million dollar mansions.

The net worth of these swamp critters is available online.  You have NO EXCUSE for not knowing the facts.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2020, 09:28:10 AM »
Over half of Congress are MILLIONAIRES, many qualify as multi-millionaires.  They got that way in office.

They decide if the laws apply to themselves.  They can exempt themselves if they so desire.  One example was being able to profit from insider information.  They recently passed a new law eliminating that privilege which the rest of us would go to prison for (Martha Stewart?).  They aren't required to buy into the ACA.  The top Dems in CA live in multi-million dollar mansions.

The net worth of these swamp critters is available online.  You have NO EXCUSE for not knowing the facts.

If they raise the tax brackets and raise the taxes on those earning more than X amount, if they also earn more than that they have to pay more taxes too.   I am not arguing with you on corruption.  There are corrupt democrats and republicans most politicians are rich.  They are all corrupt.  I am saying democrats tend to want to raise taxes....I know you want to argue with everything I say....