reeducation camps (Read 18066 times)

hvybarrels

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2020, 01:42:42 PM »
Ah the old days when things were harder and scarce.  Fuck technology making things better and stuff and the young people for embracing it.   :wacko: :crazy:

Refusing certain types of technology is healthy, especially when the costs are so high

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/02/china-tries-take-totalitarian-social-control-tactics-global/
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2020, 01:46:39 PM »
Refusing certain types of technology is healthy, especially when the costs are so high

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/02/china-tries-take-totalitarian-social-control-tactics-global/

Amazon knows what you want before you even know.  Same for Google, Twitter and FB regarding content.

But hey!  Tech is making life easier for "young people."

The Matrix is the ultimate in making things easy...
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2020, 01:57:06 PM »
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2020, 02:06:45 PM »
Nobody specified who it makes things easy for.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/chinas-new-social-credit-system-turns-orwells-1984-into-reality/

That's true technology has its pros and cons but you can't just hate it lol.  That was the point I was getting across. I really hope we don't go full China.  That would be horrible.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2020, 02:33:43 PM »
That's true technology has its pros and cons but you can't just hate it lol.  That was the point I was getting across. I really hope we don't go full China.  That would be horrible.

Research how much the people who came up with the atomic bomb "just hated" it.

Then there's Alfred Nobel (namesake for the prizes) who invented dynamite.

Just because we can doesn't mean we should.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #65 on: October 22, 2020, 02:39:04 PM »
That's true technology has its pros and cons but you can't just hate it lol.  That was the point I was getting across. I really hope we don't go full China.  That would be horrible.

Why are you talking about technology as this monolithic entity that has to be either completely accepted or rejected? We all have the right to choose what they want and avoid other things that are less useful or potentially dangerous. If I prefer iron sights does that mean I am forbidden from getting an MRI at the hospital?
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2020, 02:49:48 PM »
Why are you talking about technology as this monolithic entity that has to be either completely accepted or rejected? We all have the right to choose what they want and avoid other things that are less useful or potentially dangerous. If I prefer iron sights does that mean I am forbidden from getting an MRI at the hospital?

He's young.  His brain can't wrap itself around the fact that individual things, including people, are not always able to be pigeon-hole, labeled and defined by common groupings. 

He thinks "easier" is a synonym for "better".
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2020, 02:57:53 PM »
Research how much the people who came up with the atomic bomb "just hated" it.

Then there's Alfred Nobel (namesake for the prizes) who invented dynamite.

Just because we can doesn't mean we should.

If we don't we will never survive.  Reaching the stars and leaving earth is the key to survival of the human race. 

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #68 on: October 22, 2020, 03:01:02 PM »
Why are you talking about technology as this monolithic entity that has to be either completely accepted or rejected? We all have the right to choose what they want and avoid other things that are less useful or potentially dangerous. If I prefer iron sights does that mean I am forbidden from getting an MRI at the hospital?

I was referring to to the earlier technology  bashing in this thread.  But you bring up a interesting point. As an individual you can choose to use it,  but you shouldn't stop it being invented because another might want to use it.  Technology in general is a net positive for humanity.

 I prefer red dots over iron sights but didn't stop me from thinking it was a good idea to have both invented.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #69 on: October 22, 2020, 03:59:53 PM »
If we don't we will never survive.  Reaching the stars and leaving earth is the key to survival of the human race.

Are you saying the human race will vanish from the Earth if we don't find a way to leave the Earth? 

I guess you'd like to make a bet on that one, too, since it can't be settled before you DIE.

"Reaching for the stars" is a euphemism for setting extremely high goals for yourself.  We can leave Earth and make it to Mars, but the nearest star, Alpha Centauri, is 4.37 Light-Years from Earth.  That's 25.7 TRILLION miles.  This is the fastest a human has ever traveled:

Quote
Upon re-entry to the Earth’s atmosphere on May 26, 1969, the Apollo 10
Lunar Module reached speeds of 24,791 miles per hour

If that's our current data point, 25.7 TRILLION miles at 4,791 miles per hour, assuming we could sustain that speed on average, would take 1,036,667 hours.  That's 43194.458 days.  That's 118.34 years.  ONE WAY! 

The ISS is 10 days from its 20th anniversary.  The record for a single trip aboard the ISS is 340 days, short of ONE year.

There are 2 planets orbiting Alpha Centauri that we know of, and one has an orbital path that makes it capable of having water.  I really don't see us sending humans "to the stars" until and unless we find the means to travel faster than the speed of light. 

When do you think we, as a race, will have the knowledge, technology and resources to send a manned spacecraft to a planet over 100 years away that we haven't even been able to send a probe to?

Hint:

Quote
NASA hopes to send a probe to Alpha Centauri in 2069
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #70 on: October 22, 2020, 04:57:29 PM »
Are you saying the human race will vanish from the Earth if we don't find a way to leave the Earth? 

I guess you'd like to make a bet on that one, too, since it can't be settled before you DIE.

"Reaching for the stars" is a euphemism for setting extremely high goals for yourself.  We can leave Earth and make it to Mars, but the nearest star, Alpha Centauri, is 4.37 Light-Years from Earth.  That's 25.7 TRILLION miles.  This is the fastest a human has ever traveled:

If that's our current data point, 25.7 TRILLION miles at 4,791 miles per hour, assuming we could sustain that speed on average, would take 1,036,667 hours.  That's 43194.458 days.  That's 118.34 years.  ONE WAY! 

The ISS is 10 days from its 20th anniversary.  The record for a single trip aboard the ISS is 340 days, short of ONE year.

There are 2 planets orbiting Alpha Centauri that we know of, and one has an orbital path that makes it capable of having water.  I really don't see us sending humans "to the stars" until and unless we find the means to travel faster than the speed of light. 

When do you think we, as a race, will have the knowledge, technology and resources to send a manned spacecraft to a planet over 100 years away that we haven't even been able to send a probe to?

Hint:

facts>feelings

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2020, 05:01:16 PM »
facts>feelings

Shhhh!

(Waiting for the worm hole / StarGate topic derailment.)
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #72 on: October 22, 2020, 05:02:23 PM »
facts>feelings
No. Like, uh, no fcuking way.

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2020, 06:11:21 PM »
Are you saying the human race will vanish from the Earth if we don't find a way to leave the Earth? 

I guess you'd like to make a bet on that one, too, since it can't be settled before you DIE.

"Reaching for the stars" is a euphemism for setting extremely high goals for yourself.  We can leave Earth and make it to Mars, but the nearest star, Alpha Centauri, is 4.37 Light-Years from Earth.  That's 25.7 TRILLION miles.  This is the fastest a human has ever traveled:

If that's our current data point, 25.7 TRILLION miles at 4,791 miles per hour, assuming we could sustain that speed on average, would take 1,036,667 hours.  That's 43194.458 days.  That's 118.34 years.  ONE WAY! 

The ISS is 10 days from its 20th anniversary.  The record for a single trip aboard the ISS is 340 days, short of ONE year.

There are 2 planets orbiting Alpha Centauri that we know of, and one has an orbital path that makes it capable of having water.  I really don't see us sending humans "to the stars" until and unless we find the means to travel faster than the speed of light. 

When do you think we, as a race, will have the knowledge, technology and resources to send a manned spacecraft to a planet over 100 years away that we haven't even been able to send a probe to?

Hint:

We can make colony's on the moon, mars.  We can invent new technology that allows us to travel that far.  I am not saying tomorrow but one day.  If a big enough rock smacks into earth tomorrow the human race is done.   The more we spread out the better chance of survival.   I can't predict a timeline, but we are increasingly evolving technology wise, at an exponential rate.   Its only a matter of time.

drck1000

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2020, 06:20:30 PM »
Lesson reality



 

macsak

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #75 on: October 22, 2020, 06:41:05 PM »
We can make colony's on the moon, mars.  We can invent new technology that allows us to travel that far.  I am not saying tomorrow but one day.  If a big enough rock smacks into earth tomorrow the human race is done.   The more we spread out the better chance of survival.   I can't predict a timeline, but we are increasingly evolving technology wise, at an exponential rate.   Its only a matter of time.

smh

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #76 on: October 22, 2020, 07:56:48 PM »
smh

He's smarter than us old folks, 'cause "technology ... and stuff".
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #77 on: October 22, 2020, 08:38:12 PM »
Based on what evidence?


How about based on the evidence that when moderates comment on this board people call them liberals.
How about when someone criticizes Trump they get diagnosed with TDS
How about so many people who are clearly conservative who get turned on because they spoke out against Trump?

If you don't see republicans turning on moderate republicans you are being willfully ignorant.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #78 on: October 22, 2020, 08:59:27 PM »
How about based on the evidence that when moderates comment on this board people call them liberals.
How about when someone criticizes Trump they get diagnosed with TDS
How about so many people who are clearly conservative who get turned on because they spoke out against Trump?

If you don't see republicans turning on moderate republicans you are being willfully ignorant.

You sound tense.

Upset over Biden getting his ass handed to him by Trump in the last debate? 

All your "evidence" is anecdotal, which is to say it's not evidence at all.

Try again, loser.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: reeducation camps
« Reply #79 on: October 22, 2020, 09:10:19 PM »
You sound tense.

Upset over Biden getting his ass handed to him by Trump in the last debate? 

All your "evidence" is anecdotal, which is to say it's not evidence at all.

Try again, loser.


Devolved to name calling again.  Eye has a good point though.  That's literally what many people here do.