actually, studies have shown that gen z is already more conservative than millenials...

You are correct they have every right to do that.  And everyone has every right to not vote for them.   Then we will have America mirror the Hawaiian islands politically.  Do you want that?   In the end only votes matter,  that means you must try and cater to the majority of voters.

From what I can tell they are still just as or less religious though....

https://www.deseret.com/indepth/2020/9/13/21428404/gen-z-religion-spirituality-social-justice-black-lives-matter-parents-family-pandemic
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/generational-cohort/
https://www.barna.com/research/atheism-doubles-among-generation-z/

On a side note
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/essay/on-the-cusp-of-adulthood-and-facing-an-uncertain-future-what-we-know-about-gen-z-so-far/

It appears Gen Z are even more different than millennials.  Who are already moving away from the GOP.   Look at climate change.  GOP denies it but most Gen Z thinks it exists.  Will they support a party that denies it or one that doesnt?

Show me where the GOP denies Climate Change exists.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/climate-change-and-republicans-congress-global-warming-2019-2%3famp

Yeah, that doesn’t say what you think it does.

I didn’t bother reading the entire article, but I did read the first few republicans and no where does it say “we deny climate change exists.” The problem has always been whether or not legislation is the best way to combat climate change. All the models predicting a timeline of what could happen have all been wrong. The science is very much  unsettled still.

“ In the past, dozens of Republican lawmakers have expressed doubts about the scientific reasoning behind passing legislation to mitigate the effects of climate change.” Not sure how you can read that and come to the conclusion that republicans “deny climate change.”

Yeah, that doesn’t say what you think it does.

I didn’t bother reading the entire article, but I did read the first few republicans and no where does it say “we deny climate change exists.” The problem has always been whether or not legislation is the best way to combat climate change. All the models predicting a timeline of what could happen have all been wrong. The science is very much  unsettled still.

“ In the past, dozens of Republican lawmakers have expressed doubts about the scientific reasoning behind passing legislation to mitigate the effects of climate change.” Not sure how you can read that and come to the conclusion that republicans “deny climate change.”

Also who pays for it and at what proportion.  Context is key.

Yeah, 100% there are folks that deny climate change exists.  I am dealing with them at work.  "oh, I haven't seen the water levels come up in the 30 years I have worked at XXXX".

Also who pays for it and at what proportion.  Context is key.

Yeah, 100% there are folks that deny climate change exists.  I am dealing with them at work.  "oh, I haven't seen the water levels come up in the 30 years I have worked at XXXX".

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever heard someone outright deny climate change exists. Most of the time people will just point to the fact that all the models have been wrong. And when the “experts” continually get their predictions wrong they lose credibility.

The problem with this is then nothing happens.  USA never changes if we keep pointing to china and saying but they are not doing anything so why should we?  The world isnt fair even if the USA suffers economically for a little while it saves the world and is actually a hedge bet for the future as we will be far ahead of places like china.  Then we can sell them all our goods for them to catch up.

It doesn't have to be a negative.  Everyone's looking at this as I cant frack so I don't have a job.  They should look at it, as I cant frack so I get a different job. Our economy can change,  our people can innovate and we can be the beacon of light and success in the world.  If we are the first that means we take lead,  we innovate, we evolve.  Then we can sell everyone our fruits of our effort and get rich and prosperous in the long term.

I deal with this all the time at work people trying to refuse change cause they don't like change.  Why use computers paper is good enough...when everything can be made better with electronics.  Their own job get easier and more efficient but they cant see it.

I find it telling, and kind of humorous, that a thread on millennials and religion now encompasses Climate Change.

First, I didn't say "nothing is happening".  There are changes, concrete changes. 

Second, I never said all of it is a negative.  However, if I'm going to pay for something, I want it to be based on facts.  Not just some corrupt politicians in bed with those who stand to gain from US paying more.  I'll give you one guess who that is. . .

I too deal with that "we've always done it this way" mentality at work, also in life.  Yeah, it's frustrating, but that's life.  Again, I believe (my personal assessment) your unapologetic approach turns off more people to your "cause" that would otherwise be supportive.  I can say that from personal experience I probably was closer to that when I first became a manager in my late 20's and early 30's.  You may believe it works because it fits in what you feel is right and wrong, and won't settle for less.  Again, I can tell you from experience that "even if win, you lose".  Mr. Miyagi was one wise sensei. . .

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/climate-change-and-republicans-congress-global-warming-2019-2%3famp

Perhaps my way does turn people off.  I am trying to transition to management and I agree you do need different styles because you no longer just have yourself to worry about.  But I also feel that a bunch of people are trying the "apologetic" approach and its not really working.

You can't be a good leader until you are a good follower.

You don't seem to want to follow anyone you disagree with.  How the heck do you expect anyone who disagrees with you to follow your lead?

Or, will you just get them fired and only have a bubble of likeminded people in your group?

Contrary to popular belief I think I get along with most people even if I don't think they are correct.   I don't dislike anyone here just that we all have different opinions.  I am perfectly able to follow orders but you are all my peers not my boss.

Definition of peer (Entry 1 of 3)
   1: one that is of equal standing with another : EQUAL
       The band mates welcomed the new member as a peer.
       especially : one belonging to the same societal group especially based on age, grade, or status

teenagers spending time with their peers

We're your peers?

I think you just insulted everyone here .... except EEF.

Yes....I think of everyone here as friends,  you know equals....do you think of yourself as everyone's supervisor here?  Or do you have a God complex?