If the Post Office has these kinds of people working there, how hard do you imagine it would be for there to be a concerted effort in key states to swipe large numbers of ballots?  The mail goes in a truck, truck stops for lunch, truck continues on its way just slightly light of a few hundred ballots. 

Lather, rinse, repeat.

The Dems (Soros) spent 34 Billion dollars to defeat Trump.  How much of that money do you think it would take to get enough postal workers, elections clerks, public officials and inspectors to lok the other way when ballots start to walk out of the delivery trucks and return to counting centers all filled out for Biden?

I've heard that China copied and printed election ballots which might be used to steal the election.  All the Official ballots were controlled under lock/key and distributed by Homeland Security.  I understand that the Official ballot has some sort of special invisible markings that fake ballots will not have.  When Trump gets a recount in Wisconsin they will verify that each ballot is legal and the person is eligible to vote.  If any fake ballots show up, game over Wisconsin was compromised and will show that the Democrats tried to steal the election.  When Trump is declared President It is at that point that the riots (funded by Soros) will begin.

THIS is why we can't trust the Post Office to manage the mail-in ballots for a general election.

The USPS offers no chain of custody for your ballot.  That means you have no way of know if your ballot made it to be counted, and that it was in fact the ballot you completed.

Whether it's negligence, incompetence, lack of resources, no process for the volume of ballots being handled, or out and out criminal conduct (or all of the above), the Post Office should only be trusted to deliver ballots to & from voters if their is a new tracking system made available for ballots -- just like the Delivery Confirmation tracking for Priority Mail.  Instead, we see first class and bulk rate postage on ballots to save money.

The Dems knew this was a guaranteed way to overwhelm the system and drag Biden across the finish line.

If you still think Biden is winning these swing states honestly, think about this.  The states called for Trump, especially the big states like FL and TX, were projected by polls to be blue states -- and by large margins.  Instead, Trump won and in pretty substantial amounts.

So, how can the same pollsters be so massively wrong in those states, but the states that still haven't reported are following the polling (+/- margin or error) in Biden's favor?  They used the same formulas, methods and data to poll each state, yet somehow only PA, NC, GA, NV and AZ got it right.  Every other state was 7% - 13% backwards.

Either the polls were not designed to measure voter opinions but rather push people based on the results ("push polls"), of they should all be off by close to the same margin, meaning the ballots for Biden are an anomaly compared to most other states.

Anomaly, as in unexplainable -- not expected. 

Statistically, it appears there is ample evidence that the vote count is being manipulated in half a dozen states.

I've admitted to being wrong many times, I just need proof.

Funny how you demand proof you're wrong, but you have no evidence you're right other than "feelings".

I've heard that China copied and printed election ballots which might be used to steal the election.  All the Official ballots were controlled under lock/key and distributed by Homeland Security.  I understand that the Official ballot has some sort of special invisible markings that fake ballots will not have.  When Trump gets a recount in Wisconsin they will verify that each ballot is legal and the person is eligible to vote.  If any fake ballots show up, game over Wisconsin was compromised and will show that the Democrats tried to steal the election.  When Trump is declared President It is at that point that the riots (funded by Soros) will begin.

New Jersey screwed up a local election so badly using mail-in ballots, a judge ordered a "do-over".

Imagine the legal quagmire that could cause if the Supreme Court orders the same for this cluster-fuck.

There's many many lawsuits, some he won some he lost.  Is Fox news, the new face of liberal news? 

Yeah I acted "moronic"  it happens.  I owned up to it.  Realize my faults and fixed it.   Hope Trump supporters do the same.

You might as well stop saying "Trump Supporters," and say what you really mean:

DEPLORABLES.

If you're going to put us all in "baskets" all lumped together to make your stereotypes easier to keep up with, might as well go full on Libtard and use the Hillary analogy of the Century.

I've admitted to being wrong many times, I just need proof.

No, you “guessed” that you were wrong. You just can’t man up and admit it. And that’s only after you try to argue semantics and get called out to the point where it is pointless to even try to justify. Like how punaperson called you out.

And you seem to carry some twisted standard of proof.  Just because you don’t believe something, it’s not proof. Beyond reasonable doubt is not beyond any doubt.

No, you “guessed” that you were wrong. You just can’t man up and admit it. And that’s only after you try to argue semantics and get called out to the point where it is pointless to even try to justify. Like how punaperson called you out.

And you seem to carry some twisted standard of proof.  Just because you don’t believe something, it’s not proof. Beyond reasonable doubt is not beyond any doubt.

If I were a troll (and I have played one often  ), I would do exactly what you just described to piss people off and hijack all the threads, just so nobody is having a fun time on this "gun forum."

Effective way to drive down membership and morale while cluttering up the threads with constant repetitious bickering and disinformation.

Well, I GUESS that's what I would do.  No evidence to prove I ever did that.   

I've heard that China copied and printed election ballots which might be used to steal the election.  All the Official ballots were controlled under lock/key and distributed by Homeland Security.  I understand that the Official ballot has some sort of special invisible markings that fake ballots will not have.  When Trump gets a recount in Wisconsin they will verify that each ballot is legal and the person is eligible to vote.  If any fake ballots show up, game over Wisconsin was compromised and will show that the Democrats tried to steal the election.  When Trump is declared President It is at that point that the riots (funded by Soros) will begin.

Here's a reference to china's ability to manufacture ballots.  Mentioned about 9m50 mark.  Better yet watch the whole video.    https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZdWbQdcEqkV1/

Funny how you demand proof you're wrong, but you have no evidence you're right other than "feelings".

The burden of evidence is on you.   I can't scream out to the world that flapp killed Obama. And when you deny it say give me evidence you didn't.  That's not how the justice system works.  You accuse of wrong doing, you back it up. 

No, you “guessed” that you were wrong. You just can’t man up and admit it. And that’s only after you try to argue semantics and get called out to the point where it is pointless to even try to justify. Like how punaperson called you out.

And you seem to carry some twisted standard of proof.  Just because you don’t believe something, it’s not proof. Beyond reasonable doubt is not beyond any doubt.

This is incorrect. I said "guessed" once from my knowledge in this thread.   Alright I will admit in that specific thing I was wrong.  I was not wrong about the fact that it was still a process of checks and balances that was implied there was not any.  I have not been proven wrong on that.   Other times I have flat out said I was wrong.  It happens. Unlike flapp who I have never seen admitting he made a mistake.  Only calling out semantics all the time to distract. Similar to what Trump does.

Not sure how conviction or atleast a court case is a twisted standard of proof.... that's pretty normal.  With so much fake news that's the only 100% certainty.

I've heard that China copied and printed election ballots which might be used to steal the election.  All the Official ballots were controlled under lock/key and distributed by Homeland Security.  I understand that the Official ballot has some sort of special invisible markings that fake ballots will not have.  When Trump gets a recount in Wisconsin they will verify that each ballot is legal and the person is eligible to vote.  If any fake ballots show up, game over Wisconsin was compromised and will show that the Democrats tried to steal the election.  When Trump is declared President It is at that point that the riots (funded by Soros) will begin.

🤣🤣🤣

Here's a reference to china's ability to manufacture ballots.  Mentioned about 9m50 mark.  Better yet watch the whole video.    https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZdWbQdcEqkV1/

sorry as much as I'd like to believe that was false

Here's a reference to china's ability to manufacture ballots.  Mentioned about 9m50 mark.  Better yet watch the whole video.    https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZdWbQdcEqkV1/

Wait you were not joking?  That's a pretty far out conspiracy theory. How would they get the ballots here? How would they coordinate delivery? How would they know who voted and who didn't assuming they hacked the rolls?

An auditor’s take on the irregularities of the last minute ballots.

https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/05/the-2020-election-fuckery-is-afoot/

An auditor’s take on the irregularities of the last minute ballots.

https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/05/the-2020-election-fuckery-is-afoot/

Some of the things he said are suspicious and should be looked into.  Though I belive all his talk about ratios is wrong.  Mail on ballots will always be extra blue because of how it was marketed. Trump having a large lead in in person voting is because he said to not vote my Mail.  You will see a large blue count because democrats encouraged to only vote by mail. 

Other cases seem to be fraud but not on a massive scale to tip.  We are taking 10000's of votes needed to be fraud. 

Massive turnout seems normal as this is the most polarizing president ever in recent history.   Hell Trump brought out more votes than Obama is he fraud too?

Some of my quick morning thoughs

I'm very disappointed in that our most sacred right in this USA has been soiled and bankrupt these past few days. I don't have to show the evidence but the stop & gos, the delays and sudden appearance of buckets of ballots is highly irregular and questionable in this election. It's more than "Orange Man Bad."
My faith in our election is lost. It might be a long 4 years. For those that didn't like President Trump and voted for the other alternatives, you deserve the govt you got and the consequences of such.
Wait till our emboldened local leaders like Rhoads will do when the 2021 legislature convenes. It may be the start of a wave of gun GRAB measures.

I'm very disappointed in that our most sacred right in this USA has been soiled and bankrupt these past few days. I don't have to show the evidence but the stop & gos, the delays and sudden appearance of buckets of ballots is highly irregular and questionable in this election. It's more than "Orange Man Bad."
My faith in our election is lost. It might be a long 4 years. For those that didn't like President Trump and voted for the other alternatives, you deserve the govt you got and the consequences of such.
Wait till our emboldened local leaders like Rhoads will do when the 2021 legislature convenes. It may be the start of a wave of gun GRAB measures.

What? The foundation of our democracy and our country is law and order.  The constitution is innocent until proven guilty.  The justice system is one of the 3 pillars of our society.  Evidence of a crime is needed for an accusation.  You harp on me for "feelings" without evidence but then do a 180 and say the voting system is corrupt because of your opinions without evidence....

Some of the things he said are suspicious and should be looked into.  Though I belive all his talk about ratios is wrong.  Mail on ballots will always be extra blue because of how it was marketed. Trump having a large lead in in person voting is because he said to not vote my Mail.  You will see a large blue count because democrats encouraged to only vote by mail. 

Other cases seem to be fraud but not on a massive scale to tip.  We are taking 10000's of votes needed to be fraud. 

Massive turnout seems normal as this is the most polarizing president ever in recent history.   Hell Trump brought out more votes than Obama is he fraud too?

Some of my quick morning thoughs

So are you an auditor expert now also?

Some pertinent items from the article.

Before I became a novelist I was an accountant. In auditing you look for red flags. That’s weird bits in the data that suggest something shifty is going on. You flag those weird things so you can delve into them further. One flag doesn’t necessarily mean there’s fraud. Weird things happen. A few flags mean stupidity or dishonesty. But a giant pile of red flags means that there’s bad shit going on and people should be in jail.

Except for in politics, where apparently all you have to do to dismiss a bunch of red flag is be a democrat and mumble something about “fascist voter suppression” then you can do all sorts of blatant crime and get off.

I’ve been trying to keep up with the firehose of information about what’s going on during this clusterfuck of an election. Last night I was on Facebook talking about the crazy high, 3rd world dictatorship level voter turnout levels in the deep blue areas of these swing states was very suspicious. Somebody gas lighted me about how “I’d have to do better than that”, so this was my quick reply, listing off the questionable bullshit I could think of off the top of my head:

The massive turn out alone is a red flag.

But as for doing better…

The late night spikes that were enough to close all the Trump leads are a red flag.

The statistically impossible breakdown of the ratios of these vote dumps is a red flag.

The ratios of these dumps being far better than the percentages in the bluest of blue cities, even though the historical data does not match, red flag.

The ratios of these vote dumps favoring Biden more in these few battlegrounds than the ratio for the rest of the country (even the bluest of the blue) red flag.

Biden outperforming Obama among these few urban vote dumps, even though Trump picked up points in every demographic group in the rest of the country, red flag.

The poll observers being removed. Red flag.

The counters cheering as GOP observers are removed, red flag.

The fact that the dem observers outnumber the GOP observers 3 to 1, red flag (and basis of the first lawsuit filed)

The electioneering at the polls (on video), red flag.

The willful violation of the court order requiring the separation of ballots by type, red flag.

USPS whistleblower reporting to the Inspector General that today they were ordered to backdate ballots to yesterday, red flag.

The video of 2 AM deliveries of what appear to be boxes of ballots with no chain of custody or other observers right before the late night miracle spikes, red flag.

Any of those things would be enough to trigger an audit in the normal world. This many flags and I’d be giggling in anticipation of catching some thieves.

And it isn’t that I have to do better. I’m just an gen pop observer who happens to be a retired auditor with a finely tuned bullshit detector. This is going to the courts.

When you are auditing you see mistakes happen all the time. Humans make errors. Except in real life, mistakes usually go in different directions. When all the mistakes go in the same direction and benefit the same parties, they probably aren’t mistakes. They’re malfeasance.

Let’s go back a bit to before election day to see why people would be suspicious that the game has been rigged.

In a small populace, you can get 100% of the vote. However the larger the sample, the more likely there will be dissenting votes. Even in the bluest of blue areas or reddest of red areas, somebody is going to be a cranky dissident, or an old person is going to fill in the wrong circle. When you get into the hundreds or thousands yet maintain that kind of perfect ratio, basically impossible.

Then people were quick to dismiss these statistically improbable spikes with “of course the mail in voting favors Biden, republicans vote in person.” Yes, but they don’t favor Biden with these kind of ratios anywhere else in America. The ratios are more like 60-40 or 70-30. But 97-3? Oh fuck no. So either Biden is a better campaigner to the inner cities (though he rarely left his basement) than the eloquent messianic figure of Barack Obama, or there’s something fishy going on here.

Now, as a suspicious auditor type who spent a lot of hours looking for fuckery in complex systems, my gut tells me fake ballots were getting dumped into the system to make up the difference. And oh look, here is a giant pile of red flags indicating that’s the case.

Because here’s the kicker, the high turn out is the average for the state, but when you drill down on the source of these statistically improbable blue vote dumps, they’ve got districts with TWO HUNDRED PERCENT TURN OUT. That’s over 200%. There’s 7 over 100%, and a ton of them in the 90s.  https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

Now the quick liberal dismiss explanation for this is that Wisconsin has same day registration (again, a fraudsters dream) and thousands of people ignored months of TV and social media beating them over the head to get registered to vote, and just decided to do it at the last minute because Biden is just that awesome/Trump is just that bad.

Except if you’re an auditor, when you see super suspicious spikes like that in certain places, the first thing we think is that’s the place where you’ve got somebody over the controls colluding. So that’s where you go to fabricate your bullshit.

200% turn out is fucking insane. Same day voting or not. That’s madness. When I was looking into this stuff I pulled a HuffPo article about the 2012 election and how it was controversial that some Madison ward had gotten 119% turnout. 

Read the rest of the article.  It's long but he goes into it a lot more.

What? The foundation of our democracy and our country is law and order.  The constitution is innocent until proven guilty.  The justice system is one of the 3 pillars of our society.  Evidence of a crime is needed for an accusation.  You harp on me for "feelings" without evidence but then do a 180 and say the voting system is corrupt because of your opinions without evidence....

Hey douche, did I mention anything criminal? I said it was highly irregular and questionable. If there was solid evidence that I (me) could find I'd present it.

If I were a troll (and I have played one often  ), I would do exactly what you just described to piss people off and hijack all the threads, just so nobody is having a fun time on this "gun forum."

Effective way to drive down membership and morale while cluttering up the threads with constant repetitious bickering and disinformation.

Well, I GUESS that's what I would do.  No evidence to prove I ever did that.   

That's fine.  There are many on here, besides admin and MODs, that have a lot of experience with that and those types.  I used to be a MOD on a large national gun board and am admin on a smaller one.  We see right through those types and know how to toy with them.