When trump won in 2016,  Trump voters did say boooyah.  And you lost get over it.   But now they are acting like the democrats in 2016.....  its quite funny to watch.

I don’t remember states flipping to trump 4 days after Election Day. To compare the two is disingenuous.

Sadly, not just millenials.  Was at a bbq at a friend's house over the weekend and his mom was going on and on about how Trump "is a liar" and getting all emotional.  It's not just the millenials that have bought into that. 

Guess which news they watch religiously at the house?  MSNBC and Maddow. . . 

I know. I just used the Millennial example for our token Millennial’s benefit. A little jab so to speak.

My Progressive cousin fawns over Maddow. He doesn’t have an opinion on anything until he hears her opinion. Sad. 😢

I don’t remember states flipping to trump 4 days after Election Day. To compare the two is disingenuous.

True, its not a direct comparison.  But the states flipping was not a magical event.  It was said to happen before the election.  Many of those states mandated that mail-in votes not be counted or processed early.  This means there is a delay.  Democrats said to vote by mail and republicans encouraged in-person voting.  So if you count in-person first, the states will always be red first then turn blue (if there are more democrat votes).   This is what it was supposed to look like. 

Kamala's speech did mention all the "protesting" over 4 years was worth it.  I've read many comments on other FB pages and those who support her are all about POC and woman making it as VP.  NOthing of what she stands for or things she accomplished besides being born a woman and half Jamaican and half Indian.

I see so many comments responding to Trump supporters that are like "he lost, get over it".  I'm hoping for a Trump win in the courts and a HUGE BOOOOOOYYYAAAHHHHHH.  I will use the line "Biden lost, get over it".

I agree you on Kamala, she is borderline racist and sexist.  Her accomplishments should only matter not the color of her skin or what genitals she has.

all the liberals I talk to are more happy to see Trump lose than see Biden/Harris win

I hate the way Biden trots around like he has all this energy.  nobody does that.  he trots for like 10 feet then takes off his mask.  that irritates me

True, its not a direct comparison.  But the states flipping was not a magical event.  It was said to happen before the election.  Many of those states mandated that mail-in votes not be counted or processed early.  This means there is a delay.  Democrats said to vote by mail and republicans encouraged in-person voting.  So if you count in-person first, the states will always be red first then turn blue (if there are more democrat votes).   This is what it was supposed to look like.

(1)  It was a magical event, because the SAME POLLSTERS who predicted a few states would win which are also predicted Texas would flip blue, Florida would be won by Biden by 6 points, etc.  They also predicted these few contested states would be in the 3% or higher range for Biden, but at least 2 to 4 are heading into automatic recounts because the gap is less than 1/2%.  How can you say "It was predicted" when so many of the predictions were wrong?  A blind pig finds an acorn in the mud now and then.  However, the fact that the shenanigans being witnessed happen to be only in the states that "magically" won -- with ballots delivered at 4AM with nobody able to say where they came from, and not a single one for Trump -- should be a red flag that there's a reason these states managed to barely get enough votes for Biden to claim victory when other states could not.

(2)  Each state, MI, PA, and GA, stopped counting as soon as the totals were showing 80-90% of precincts reporting and Trump was in the lead,  The states where Biden was leading never stopped.  This difference is because you can't let Trump get so far ahead that the "new ballots" would stick out as an obvious fraud.  So, they stopped, lied that no more counting would happen until 10AM, yet just 2-3 hours later the numbers for Biden went up over 10K votes!  How does that happen?  Magic? 

The Trump team has witnesses with signed affidavits outlining several instances of fraud, including backdating late ballots and moving machines where nobody could watch the count.

Also, the PA rule change allowing up to 3 days after election day and allowing mismatched signatures is about to be tossed.  Only the state legislature can make the rules for a presidential election.  In this case the Gov couldn't make that happen, so he asked the state supreme court to intervene.  THAT COURT said the late and incorrectly signed ballots could be counted.  The Constitution says otherwise.  So, all those late ballots in PA are going to be thrown out.  Based on the facts I see, I'd make a bet on that.

Anyway, we have a thread for election cheating.  I'll finish at this point.  Nothing is as it should "look like" when you consider how far outside the norms these vote totals strayed.  The polls were designed to suppress the Trump vote.  If those are your evidence, then you're out of gas.

When trump won in 2016,  Trump voters did say boooyah.  And you lost get over it.   But now they are acting like the democrats in 2016.....  its quite funny to watch.

You're train of thought is incorrect.  The MAJOR difference is the cheating in 2020 election.  If it was an honest election, then fine.  But it wasn't.  Add in for 4 years the fake news airs almost all negative things about Trump.  To me, that's interference.  There are very simple minded people in the nation who after hearing the same stuff for 4 years, will believe what they're told.  And if the fake news did report anything positive, it was a short 10 second clip so they can say that they did report it.  So fact checkers can say that it was reported.

Then the social media censorship that you claim doesn't happen (Mrgunsngear got deleted recently).

Last I checked, Trump supporters were not rioting, assaulting people, spitting on police since Biden allegedly got the electoral voted needed to win.  Vids I saw where of Trump supporters praying in front of counting buildings.

(1)  It was a magical event, because the SAME POLLSTERS who predicted a few states would win which are also predicted Texas would flip blue, Florida would be won by Biden by 6 points, etc.  They also predicted these few contested states would be in the 3% or higher range for Biden, but at least 2 to 4 are heading into automatic recounts because the gap is less than 1/2%.  How can you say "It was predicted" when so many of the predictions were wrong?  A blind pig finds an acorn in the mud now and then.  However, the fact that the shenanigans being witnessed happen to be only in the states that "magically" won -- with ballots delivered at 4AM with nobody able to say where they came from, and not a single one for Trump -- should be a red flag that there's a reason these states managed to barely get enough votes for Biden to claim victory when other states could not.

Not all predictions are correct?  The prediction wasn't my main point...That's why I said (if more democrats)...The prediction I was talking about was that states would be red first and MAYBE go blue. 

True, its not a direct comparison.  But the states flipping was not a magical event.  It was said to happen before the election.  Many of those states mandated that mail-in votes not be counted or processed early.  This means there is a delay.  Democrats said to vote by mail and republicans encouraged in-person voting.  So if you count in-person first, the states will always be red first then turn blue (if there are more democrat votes).   This is what it was supposed to look like.

It is magic when the line graphs show a vertical spike. Even in blue states where majority of the voters voted Biden, there was no vertical spike.

Since day 1, Trump has been against mail in ballots because it's easier to cheat.  There are many examples of how.  Nursing home nurse arrested for filling out many ballots, ballots trashed, someone "helping" an old lady fill out a ballot, etc... And then add in all the dead people voting. 

For those who support mail in ballots, I want them to mail themselves their entire savings account balance in cash.  The mail is secure right, so should be no problem.  Unless you only got $200 in your savings, then never mind.  And on the same thought, people should be allowed to order a firearm thru the mail too.

Not all predictions are correct?  The prediction wasn't my main point...That's why I said (if more democrats)...The prediction I was talking about was that states would be red first and MAYBE go blue.

That theory does make sense.  Trump supporters prefer to vote in person and anti trump would be OK with mail in voting.  But to see the spikes is not possible unless there was cheating.

Did you know Pelosi and Feinsteins husband have an interest in the ballot counting software.  How were those contracts awarded?  Sure neither husband had a play in the contract right.

You're train of thought is incorrect.  The MAJOR difference is the cheating in 2020 election.  If it was an honest election, then fine.  But it wasn't.  Add in for 4 years the fake news airs almost all negative things about Trump.  To me, that's interference.  There are very simple minded people in the nation who after hearing the same stuff for 4 years, will believe what they're told.  And if the fake news did report anything positive, it was a short 10 second clip so they can say that they did report it.  So fact checkers can say that it was reported.

Then the social media censorship that you claim doesn't happen (Mrgunsngear got deleted recently).

Last I checked, Trump supporters were not rioting, assaulting people, spitting on police since Biden allegedly got the electoral voted needed to win.  Vids I saw where of Trump supporters praying in front of counting buildings.

Russia had  "interference" too, as did the mainstream anti trump media. I think either or, its up to the citizens.  The end result is what matters.  I told the democrats to get over loss, and I tell the republicans the same.  In 2016 there was no tangible (excessive) fraud.  Just like it looks like 2020 there is no tangible (excessive) fraud. 

I am starting to think there is censorship of 2a and I find it sad.  It was more plausible it was not targeted but I think for guns this may be the exception to the case.  This is not where we should be heading and there should be a correction.  I think social media and the internet is going in the wrong direction.

Never said anything bad about trump supporters other than they should accept the results.  Extreme left democrats are bad we all agree on that.  But doesn't mean the republicans have to fall that low also.

That theory does make sense.  Trump supporters prefer to vote in person and anti trump would be OK with mail in voting.  But to see the spikes is not possible unless there was cheating.

Did you know Pelosi and Feinsteins husband have an interest in the ballot counting software.  How were those contracts awarded?  Sure neither husband had a play in the contract right.

It is magic when the line graphs show a vertical spike. Even in blue states where majority of the voters voted Biden, there was no vertical spike.

Since day 1, Trump has been against mail in ballots because it's easier to cheat.  There are many examples of how.  Nursing home nurse arrested for filling out many ballots, ballots trashed, someone "helping" an old lady fill out a ballot, etc... And then add in all the dead people voting. 

For those who support mail in ballots, I want them to mail themselves their entire savings account balance in cash.  The mail is secure right, so should be no problem.  Unless you only got $200 in your savings, then never mind.  And on the same thought, people should be allowed to order a firearm thru the mail too.

Its how it was counted and how they release results.  Its in batches.  Because trump was against in mail voting and democrats pushed it hard.  A decent majority of votes for mail in voting will be blue.  Now you add to the fact they counted the big cities which are already blue last because of population constraints, you get a massive blue push.

I did not know that, but I doubt there is any issues.  Everything has a paper backup.   I am sure if I looked I would find republicans that own political things too.

People do order firearms through the mail,  I am getting many delivered to my FFL lol.   I vote every year through the mail,  I order most of my supplies through the mail and actually prefer USPS. 

There is always some fraud, but there is no evidence of major or organized fraud, or more than previous years.  This is America, voting is part of our rights.  We should make it easier and more convenient, not less.

It is magic when the line graphs show a vertical spike. Even in blue states where majority of the voters voted Biden, there was no vertical spike.

Since day 1, Trump has been against mail in ballots because it's easier to cheat.  There are many examples of how.  Nursing home nurse arrested for filling out many ballots, ballots trashed, someone "helping" an old lady fill out a ballot, etc... And then add in all the dead people voting. 

For those who support mail in ballots, I want them to mail themselves their entire savings account balance in cash.  The mail is secure right, so should be no problem.  Unless you only got $200 in your savings, then never mind.  And on the same thought, people should be allowed to order a firearm thru the mail too.

Don't tempt the OmniGambler!  He'll do it just for the educational value!   

If one searches hard enough, you'll find Bernie supporters had been pushing the same doubts as now.  Just it wasn't getting coverage.  Wonder why. . .

Its how it was counted and how they release results.  Its in batches.  Because trump was against in mail voting and democrats pushed it hard.  A decent majority of votes for mail in voting will be blue.  Now you add to the fact they counted the big cities which are already blue last because of population constraints, you get a massive blue push.


People do order firearms through the mail,  I am getting many delivered to my FFL lol.   I vote every year through the mail,  I order most of my supplies through the mail and actually prefer USPS. 

I meant when ordering a firearm, it comes to your home  or office, not mailed to a FFL.

Math experts reviewed the vertical spikes and even they said it's statistically impossible.

Not all predictions are correct?  The prediction wasn't my main point...That's why I said (if more democrats)...The prediction I was talking about was that states would be red first and MAYBE go blue.

that's not what you said...

Don't tempt the OmniGambler!  He'll do it just for the educational value!   

Hope he uses my address.  And in return, I'll send a picture of that days newspaper under the cash. 

Russia had  "interference" too, as did the mainstream anti trump media. I think either or, its up to the citizens.  The end result is what matters.  I told the democrats to get over loss, and I tell the republicans the same.  In 2016 there was no tangible (excessive) fraud.  Just like it looks like 2020 there is no tangible (excessive) fraud. 

I am starting to think there is censorship of 2a and I find it sad.  It was more plausible it was not targeted but I think for guns this may be the exception to the case.  This is not where we should be heading and there should be a correction.  I think social media and the internet is going in the wrong direction.

Never said anything bad about trump supporters other than they should accept the results.  Extreme left democrats are bad we all agree on that.  But doesn't mean the republicans have to fall that low also.

I know you're not very old, but you need to STFU until you look at the reality of history.

After Bush was called as the winner of Florida, which in 2000 became THE one state that gave him the Presidency, the DEMOCRATS ran to court the next day to demand all kinds of crap, including recounts in specific "contested" counties.  That crap went on until mid-December. 

Once the counting of ONLY DEMOCRAT-LEANING COUNTIES started, and the same exclusion of GOP poll watchers craps ensued, then the "hanging chads" and "butterfly ballots" issues arose.  The Dems eventually got to a point where Gore was ahead, and the MEDIA immediately called the state for him and declared him President-Elect.

Gore maintained the title President elect for weeks, until the Supreme Court stepped in and stopped the ridiculous recounts.  They said, either recount EVERY VOTE in the state, or recount NO VOTES, the election became a quagmire of total confusion, which is what Dems wanted and needed to steal the election.  They knew a full recount would be futile for Gore, so they conceded the race.  Bush became President-Elect much to the Main Stream Democrat Medias disgust.

We live in a CONSTITUTIONAL nation, not a MEDIA CONTROLLED nation.  The media does not get to say when the vote count is official.  States do that.  And at least 2 states have deadlines the first week of December to certify the election results.  In the meantime, automatic recounts will happen. 

Once the certified votes are in, THEN recounts can be requested by candidates.  Depending on the state and circumstances, the campaign may have to pay for the recount.  Once all challenges are satisfied, THEN the media can make their proclamations based on official state results.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that's the end of the story.  The electors in each state have to go to Congress and cast their official electoral votes.  Just like in 2016, electors may decide to break with the election results and cast votes for another candidate.  Given the corruption being not-reported on the Biden crime family, it's extremely possible for an elector to decide to switch to Trump.  They might also switch if they believe the state ran a shady election, and they wish to send a message to clean up their act.  We can't predict what they might do, so to say Biden is President-Elect because the media said so is naive, if not stupid.  You're giving more credibility to the media than they have earned.

that's not what you said...

I don’t remember states flipping to trump 4 days after Election Day. To compare the two is disingenuous.

True, its not a direct comparison.  But the states flipping was not a magical event.  It was said to happen before the election.  Many of those states mandated that mail-in votes not be counted or processed early.  This means there is a delay.  Democrats said to vote by mail and republicans encouraged in-person voting.  So if you count in-person first, the states will always be red first then turn blue (if there are more democrat votes).   This is what it was supposed to look like. 


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I meant when ordering a firearm, it comes to your home  or office, not mailed to a FFL.

Math experts reviewed the vertical spikes and even they said it's statistically impossible.

What's the difference between mail to ffl or home?  Only difference is receiver.... you still trust the same mail system.  I would trust sending firearms to myself if I legally could do so.