Just curious.

So are all you folks walking around malls and in supermarkets with no mask on ?

I respectfully invoke my Fifth Amendment right to refuse to answer on the grounds it may intend to incriminate me.

However, I will hint by stating that customers are not required to wear masks at Target, Safeway, KTA and the Hilo Farmers Market. The only places I shop.

I'll let you figure it out.

its a criminal offense not to wear a mask here on Oahu according to Mayor Caldwells EOs.

Just curious.

So are all you folks walking around malls and in supermarkets with no mask on ?

The key words are a face covering. 
It doesn't have to be a mask

Can Moron Ige be far behind?

Newsom Issues Double Stay-at-Home Order Where You Have To Stay In A Smaller House Inside Your Original House

December 7th, 2020




SACRAMENTO, CA—In an attempt to fight another spike in COVID-19 infections in California, Governor Gavin Newsom has issued the first ever double stay-at-home order. With the new order, people aren’t only ordered to stay in their homes no matter what, but also aren’t free to wander around their homes. Instead they have to stay inside smaller houses inside their regular homes.

“If staying home makes you safe,” Newsom told the press. “Then staying inside an even smaller home inside that home would make you double-safe. This is just basic science, as any scientist would tell you.” This statement got a nod of approval from scientist Scruffy who stood beside Newsom, though it was possible that man was just a hobo who got a lab coat at Goodwill.

With the new order, people were told to bring a bunch of snacks and a bottle to pee in to reduce the need to ever leave the smaller house. People are also ordered to wear masks while alone in their own tiny houses because, “Why not?”

Police will be going house to house and looking through the windows to make sure everyone is in their tiny houses inside their houses, though some sheriff's offices say they won’t comply because of something called the “Constitution.” Newsom reiterated, though, that there are no exceptions to this double stay-at-home order other than if you’re a governor and really want a fancy dinner.

Just curious.

So are all you folks walking around malls and in supermarkets with no mask on ?

If I wear my mask is none of your business.

 

Just kidding. I never leave my house. Evar

What's everyone's comment on
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-police-raid-home-of-fired-data-scientist-who-built-state-covid-19-tracker

Is this opposite Authoritarianism against the left?  Or perfectly fine?  Or mixture of both? 

Never get out of the boat...Unless you’re going all the way.
It’s a fuckin’ tiger. 
I did not sign up for this.... (misquote but more appropriate)



P.S.
PunaP,
Wouldn’t expect anything less. 

What's everyone's comment on
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-police-raid-home-of-fired-data-scientist-who-built-state-covid-19-tracker

Is this opposite Authoritarianism against the left?  Or perfectly fine?  Or mixture of both?

shouldn't we wait until the trial is completed?
or are you flip-flopping again?

NPR confirms that no safety testing has been done on the vaccines.

Initial Distribution Of COVID-19 Vaccine Won't Include Pregnant People

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/05/943454034/initial-distribution-of-covid-19-vaccine-wont-include-pregnant-people

NPR's Scott Simon speaks to Dr. Ruth Faden, founder of Johns Hopkins University's bioethics institute, about why none of the top coronavirus vaccine contenders has been tested on pregnant people.

* * * * *

COVID-19 Vaccine Warnings Women Should Not Get Pregnant for at least 2 months after Vaccination

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/covid-19-vaccine-warnings-women-should-not-get-pregnant-for-at-least-2-months-after-vaccination/

The government has said that women should avoid becoming pregnant until at least two months after being vaccinated against Covid-19. There has been NO TESTING to determine side-effects on pregnancy, fertility, or lactation. Even more importantly, there is no test to even see if there are side-effects with a medicine you may already be taking. This is totally unacceptable when governments are demanding everyone be immunized or you cannot work or travel. Many religious see this a taking the mark of the beast since they cannot buy or sell without a vaccine.

Meanwhile, Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine, which the company claimed demonstrated a 94% efficacy, said it causes the human immune system to produce potent antibodies that endure for at least three months. In other words, will people be need to be vaccinated 4 times a year?

My mask policy: I do not want to get a business in trouble, but if they require one then it comes off on the first step out the door.

My covid vaccine policy: You first!

In our county mask wearing is only a suggestion and not enforceable by law enforcement. It is up to the individual business to enforce mask wearing if they so choose. Walmart won’t let you in if you don’t have one. They have people outside to greet you before you go in. But if you take it off after you are inside they don’t say anything. Most people wear one, go inside and then remove it after they get past the greeter. The grocery stores tried to enforce it but gave up because so many refuse to wear one.

So of course about 40%-60% of the people here wear masks here in Yavapai County. This is my estimate only. I wear one only when the business I need to have access to requires them and will enforce their own mask mandate. For instance when I take my wife to the doctor or hospital, I wear one because they won’t let me in without it. When I go out shopping I don’t wear one. I don’t wear one when I go to the LGS nor the range. There is only one store that I know of that enforces mask wearing. And that is where I buy my beer. They have the best selection of beer in the county so I have to wear a mask when I go buy beer. No one around here wears a mask outside. And no restaurant enforces mask wearing inside or outside or even just arriving. Now, down in Maricopa county it is different. Mask wearing is mandated. So a restaurant won’t let you inside unless you are wearing a mask. After seating you can take it off. Mask wearing is enforced by law enforcement in Maricopa County but I am not aware of any ridiculousness like someone being removed from a store or cited or arrested.

shouldn't we wait until the trial is completed?
or are you flip-flopping again?

No flip flop, remember my comments on the election is i think that there is no mass fraud. But waiting on the courts for the results and facts.  So I always have an opinion.  But opinion vs facts are different.  It's all about verified truth and facts.  And the justice system just happens to be an excellent way to do that. 

Last friday at Walmart Mililani there was a disabled gentleman on a wheelchair outside the building.  He looks like aged early 60's.

He was not wearing a mask and he was telling passerbys that masks are ineffective.  He also told them to smile and have a nice day.

He looked at me and said "Smile, everybody should smile more often".  I told him I am smiling you just can't see it.......

Sad to say he was the only one I could see not wearing a mask.

NPR confirms that no safety testing has been done on the vaccines.

Initial Distribution Of COVID-19 Vaccine Won't Include Pregnant People

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/05/943454034/initial-distribution-of-covid-19-vaccine-wont-include-pregnant-people

NPR's Scott Simon speaks to Dr. Ruth Faden, founder of Johns Hopkins University's bioethics institute, about why none of the top coronavirus vaccine contenders has been tested on pregnant people.

* * * * *

COVID-19 Vaccine Warnings Women Should Not Get Pregnant for at least 2 months after Vaccination

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/covid-19-vaccine-warnings-women-should-not-get-pregnant-for-at-least-2-months-after-vaccination/

The government has said that women should avoid becoming pregnant until at least two months after being vaccinated against Covid-19. There has been NO TESTING to determine side-effects on pregnancy, fertility, or lactation. Even more importantly, there is no test to even see if there are side-effects with a medicine you may already be taking. This is totally unacceptable when governments are demanding everyone be immunized or you cannot work or travel. Many religious see this a taking the mark of the beast since they cannot buy or sell without a vaccine.

Meanwhile, Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine, which the company claimed demonstrated a 94% efficacy, said it causes the human immune system to produce potent antibodies that endure for at least three months. In other words, will people be need to be vaccinated 4 times a year?

You bring up a good point.  Women who are pregnant or trying to become should wait on testing. 

But the part about effectiveness is impossible for moderna or anyone to prove past the current testing timeline which is about 3 months.  Moderna can't predict the future. Currently it's 3 months but it might last for years or a lifetime.  Only time will tell. 

I'm guessing that it's only 3 months because the anti-bodies don't last in a person's system long.  Or perhaps the virus mutates. 

Same as people who recover from covid... after about 3-6 months, their immunity is gone and they can get covid again.  No consensus on this timeframe, but people do get covid again.

Same reason why flu shots are given every year.

The vaccine may not be the best way to deal with covid since it has a very short time benefit with lots of long term downsides.  There are other better ways to deal with covid.

People who take the vaccine should not be forcing anyone else to.  If they've already taken the vaccine, then what do they have to worry about from other people?

No flip flop, remember my comments on the election is i think that there is no mass fraud. But waiting on the courts for the results and facts.  So I always have an opinion.  But opinion vs facts are different.  It's all about verified truth and facts.  And the justice system just happens to be an excellent way to do that.

yet you always state your opinions like they are facts...

yet you always state your opinions like they are facts...

still waiting for you to admit you were wrong about heavybarrels' post that you doubled down twice on...

SNIP 

Same as people who recover from covid... after about 3-6 months, their immunity is gone and they can get covid again.  No consensus on this timeframe, but people do get covid again.

Has that part been studied well?  More curious.  I don't know either way.  I just remember early on of reports of folks testing pos, then many weeks later testing pos again.  Haven't looked into it that closely.  On a side note, I saw on the news the other day that multiple football players had been on COVID list (similar to IR) multiple times, but I didn't look into the details.  I believe players can be put on the COVID list for close contact, not necessarily a pos. 

Has that part been studied well?  More curious.  I don't know either way.  I just remember early on of reports of folks testing pos, then many weeks later testing pos again.  Haven't looked into it that closely.  On a side note, I saw on the news the other day that multiple football players had been on COVID list (similar to IR) multiple times, but I didn't look into the details.  I believe players can be put on the COVID list for close contact, not necessarily a pos.

if the tests are innaccurate

snip

People who take the vaccine should not be forcing anyone else to.  If they've already taken the vaccine, then what do they have to worry about from other people?

Well, if the vaccine is effective for them, they don't have to worry about becoming symptomatic, but... I posted earlier in this thread that even the CEO of Pfizer has stated that it is unknown whether a vaccinated person, who will not develop symptoms if person is in the "success" group, can still carry a viral load sufficient to infect other persons. They (the successfully vaccinated) will be just like asymptomatic infectious persons are now. I.s. they could spread the virus to others. Except, that the current evidence strongly suggests that virtually all positive RT-PCR testing people are highly unlikely to have sufficient viral load to be infectious.

In other words, THE VIRUS!!! Safety Cult will demand that EVERYONE must follow all diktats (masks, distancing, gathering size limits (including in your own home), who can be in the gathering, travel restrictions, quarantines, lockdowns, etc.) by the apparatchiks FOREVER... because THE VIRUS!!!.