The COVID Cult (Read 1789793 times)

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #280 on: November 28, 2020, 10:12:19 AM »
Never try to teach a pig to sing.

It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

WOMBLE

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SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #282 on: November 28, 2020, 10:43:34 AM »
and also, that's the CUMULATIVE data
you need to look at current data, as in patients that have been in treatment RECENTLY ("third wave" to you coronabros)

Do you have a link to go with this 3rd wave on number of infections to death ratio by age groups?  I can't seem to find solid data.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #283 on: November 28, 2020, 11:37:19 AM »
Do you have a link to go with this 3rd wave on number of infections to death ratio by age groups?  I can't seem to find solid data.

you don't even need to be a "scientist at heart" to understand this
https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid?country=~USA
go down to the chart
you can toggle between raw numbers and log scale

#evennotarealdoctorcanunderstand

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #284 on: November 28, 2020, 11:43:14 AM »
you don't even need to be a "scientist at heart" to understand this
https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid?country=~USA
go down to the chart
you can toggle between raw numbers and log scale

#evennotarealdoctorcanunderstand

Did you even look at your own site?  It shows when I zoom into that graph a roughly 2% death rate in the USA....

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #285 on: November 28, 2020, 11:54:16 AM »
Did you even look at your own site?  It shows when I zoom into that graph a roughly 2% death rate in the USA....
Once again
Look at a smaller period of time
Reset the zero
The past month or the past two months and then take the percentage


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Inspector

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

eyeeatingfish

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #287 on: November 28, 2020, 07:59:08 PM »
Dr. Fauci was not elected President.  Donald J. Trump is our president.  Trump sent 2 hospital ships to add bed space to the hardest hit areas -- one for NY, and one for CA.  NY used ZERO of the beds on on the USNS Comfort.  Los Angeles, CA, was served by USNS Mercy.  There was also a field hospital set up in NY.

Great work, but irrelevant.

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These are actions someone like Fauci is not in a position to handle.  Saying you would put him in charge of the pandemic response is just ... wrong.

I obviously didn't mean give Fauci the literal powers of the president, stop being obtuse. When I said let Fauci lead I meant Fauci should have advised Trump of what steps should have been taken and Trump then implement those steps. Trump should have defaulted to the experts he had under his command. Had he done this I bet he would have done much better in the election.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2020, 09:29:25 PM by eyeeatingfish »

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #288 on: November 28, 2020, 08:49:43 PM »
Great work, but irrelevant.

I obviously didn't mean give Fauci the literal powers of the president, stop being obtuse. When I said let Fauci lead I meant Trump should have advised Trump of what steps should have been taken and Trump then implement those steps. Trump should have defaulted to the experts he had under his command. Had he done this I bet he would have done much better in the election.
Obtuse? LOL!  :rofl:

tim808

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #289 on: November 29, 2020, 07:48:02 AM »
Ouch.  Now I’m an unaware fudd covid cult member

Hmmm.  I live on Oahu.   I assume you are in Puna - which is fuddier than Oahu imho.  Doe that make you a double fudd whambulance cult member?

Sorry I have nothing witty, smart or constructive to add.   

:-)

(Closet fudd here.  Raised on the outer islands.  Probably more fudd than Mr double fudd whambulance.  Maybe I’m an unaware triple fudd covid cult member?  Oh no!)

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #290 on: November 29, 2020, 08:22:19 AM »
As long as you three continue to, as you put it, "roll over" and do whatever the government tells you to, including gladly giving up your firearms (only "a hobby"), you'll be fine.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #291 on: November 29, 2020, 08:36:37 AM »
Some data from Johns Hopkins, the go-to authority on the the SARS-CoV-2 issues. Despite the Democrat liars daily screaming that the sky is falling and that citizens must obey their moronic science-less irrational "mitigation measures" (aka lockdowns and face rags, limited guests in your own home, closing your business, etc.), the science and evidence-based facts are out there, and they all put the lie to the Democrat fear-mongering propaganda. This is not new news, but it is the first time a major source respected by the false narrative promoting mainstream press has confirmed what has been known all along:

Johns Hopkins: No Increase in Deaths with Covid-19

According to new data, the U.S. currently ranks first in total COVID-19 cases, new cases per day and deaths. Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at Johns Hopkins, critically analyzed the effect of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in her webinar titled “COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data.”

From mid-March to mid-September, U.S. total deaths have reached 1.7 million, of which 200,000, or 12% of total deaths, are COVID-19-related. Instead of looking directly at COVID-19 deaths, Briand focused on total deaths per age group and per cause of death in the U.S. and used this information to shed light on the effects of COVID-19.

She explained that the significance of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths can be fully understood only through comparison to the number of total deaths in the United States.

After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.

Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.

“The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals,” Briand said.
Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged. Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.

This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19. 

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #292 on: November 29, 2020, 08:50:00 AM »
more disease experts, IT experts, history experts, political experts than gun experts only here on 2ahawaii.com :crazy:
Deeds Not Words

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #293 on: November 29, 2020, 09:02:29 AM »
more disease experts, IT experts, history experts, political experts than gun experts only here on 2ahawaii.com :crazy:
You write that in a thread titled "The COVID Cult".

Besides, this website isn't titled "Gun Experts Hawaii", it's "2aHawaii". Too bad there aren't more Second Amendment experts here.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #294 on: November 29, 2020, 09:16:07 AM »
You write that in a thread titled "The COVID Cult".

Besides, this website isn't titled "Gun Experts Hawaii", it's "2aHawaii". Too bad there aren't more Second Amendment experts here.

2nd ammendment is fairly straightforward.  Doesn't take an expert to understand it.   So that leaves plenty of room for other experts  :rofl:

ren

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #295 on: November 29, 2020, 09:17:46 AM »
2nd ammendment is fairly straightforward.  Doesn't take an expert to understand it.   So that leaves plenty of room for other experts  :rofl:

What is your understanding of the 2A?
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #296 on: November 29, 2020, 11:58:57 AM »
What is your understanding of the 2A?

Right to bear arms shall not be infringed
« Last Edit: November 30, 2020, 08:22:15 AM by omnigun »

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #297 on: November 29, 2020, 12:05:18 PM »
Right to bare arms shall not be infringed

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #298 on: November 29, 2020, 12:06:37 PM »
Right to bare arms shall not be infringed

You're saying we have the right to go sleeveless? 

 :wtf:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #299 on: November 29, 2020, 12:13:03 PM »
You're saying we have the right to go sleeveless? 

 :wtf:
Inherently correct  :thumbsup: