You believe wrong you dumb shit. As usual.

Show us your source for "old people" having a 25% chance of dying. I call bullshit (/stupidity).

If you are transported by a moving vehicle on a public roadway you have a far far greater chance of dying in those circumstances than from THE VIRUS!!! But I bet you do that, and dozens of other things that have a much higher rate of potential death. Because you're both stupid and a hypocrite.

Last I saw the median age of death was 80, with an average of 2.6 comorbidities. Those people (or anyone else) should have the ability to voluntarily choose to live under whatever "restrictions" (or not) they deem appropriate for themselves (or as chosen by a designated caretaker if that person is incapable of making such decisions). The Safety Cult fear-mongers should not have the police-state-enforced ability to dictate how everyone else decides how to structure their lives. Read the above article on "Hygiene Socialism". I know you don't get it, because you're a useful idiot and want to enforce the irrational baseless (no court rulings verifying a single restriction as scientifically valid) diktats of the tyrants. Leave the rest of us alone. If we want to "gamble" with our health by having a family/friend holiday gathering... go fuck yourself.

No idea where you got 25.  I literally wrote 1-4.  But anyway.  When your gambling puts my family or others I care about at risk you can go fuck yourself.  I could care less if you put yourself or your family at risk.  But its a virus.  Its not contained.  It can spread to others who don't want to be put at risk because of your ignorance.  Same with second hand smoke.  You have no right to influence someone else's health, because you somehow believe smoking has such a LOW chance for death...

In terms of side effects of any vaccine, people WILL die and people WILL suffer lifelong negative effects.  That happens with all vaccines.

The question becomes, does the risk of death for individuals vaccinated diminish compared to the risk of death from an unvaccinated population.  I can't count on everyone in the world to be vaccinated, nor for them to do the annual vaccinations if that's what's needed.  Right now, there's little information to go on.  It's all a guess.  So, the vaccination has to be viewed from the perspective of the individual's benefit.  If I get the shot, will I be protected from the virus? 

Saying everyone should get it, and then the virus will die off is not a "plan".  The virus originated in animals.  It's been found in mink.   Do we need to vaccinate all animals on the planet that might come in contact with a human ever.  Can we?

Vaccines got rid of small pox.  Almost got rid of polio,  and others I might of missed.  FYI.   You can get a world wide cure of a virus.

No idea where you got 25.  I literally wrote 1-4.  But anyway.  When your gambling puts my family or others I care about at risk you can go fuck yourself.  I could care less if you put yourself or your family at risk.  But its a virus.  Its not contained.  It can spread to others who don't want to be put at risk because of your ignorance.  Same with second hand smoke.  You have no right to influence someone else's health, because you somehow believe smoking has such a LOW chance for death...

Triggered by freedom. You are really doing the community a service by bringing us all together by giving us something to laugh about during what would otherwise be unhappy circumstances.

Triggered by freedom. You are really doing the community a service by bringing us all together by giving us something to laugh about during what would otherwise be unhappy circumstances.

At least I helped make you all feel better. 

Interesting view on freedom, freedom to trample on others freedom for your own freedom.  Sounds pretty warped.  Glad there is less people who believe in your type of freedom and we have laws protecting people.  If you were in charge i bet smoking would still be legal indoors (cause you know you can smoke where you want when you want, everyone can learn just not to be around you).  Along with asbestos etc.   

At least I helped make you all feel better. 

Interesting view on freedom, freedom to trample on others freedom for your own freedom.  Sounds pretty warped.

As long as you get triggered at least there is some entertainment value

As long as you get triggered at least there is some entertainment value

I got one. . .

Shooting competition. Any venue.  OG's choice of opponent.  No bet.  Just pride.

Rifle, pistol, shotgun, whatevers. 

If I were him, I'd pick Mrs. CMO. . . 

I got $5 on Mrs. Change 

Vaccines got rid of small pox.  Almost got rid of polio,  and others I might of missed.  FYI.   You can get a world wide cure of a virus.

The Polio vaccine is causing .... Polio.

Vaccine-derived polio spreads in Africa after defeat of wild virus

A new polio outbreak in Sudan has been linked to the oral polio vaccine that uses
a weakened form of the virus.

News of the outbreak comes a week after the World Health Organization (WHO)
announced that wild polio had been eradicated in Africa.

The WHO linked the cases to a strain of the virus that had been noted circulating in
Chad last year and warned that the risk of spread to other parts of the Horn of Africa
was high.

In a statement on the new cases, the WHO said two children in Sudan, one from South
Darfur state and the other from Gadarif state, close to the border with Ethiopia and Eritrea,
were paralyzed in March and April. Both had been recently vaccinated against polio.

Sep 2, 2020

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/sep/02/vaccine-derived-polio-spreads-in-africa-after-defeat-of-wild-virus

I got one. . .

Shooting competition. Any venue.  OG's choice of opponent.  No bet.  Just pride.

Rifle, pistol, shotgun, whatevers. 

If I were him, I'd pick Mrs. CMO. . . 

I got $5 on Mrs. Change 

Who supplying the ammo? Or would it be a 1 bullet per platform.

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I got one. . .

Shooting competition. Any venue.  OG's choice of opponent.  No bet.  Just pride.

Rifle, pistol, shotgun, whatevers. 

If I were him, I'd pick Mrs. CMO. . . 

I got $5 on Mrs. Change 

Would need plenty of practice, would probably lose at my current level.   Lol

Who supplying the ammo? Or would it be a 1 bullet per platform.

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If he challenges Mrs. Change, I'll front some ammo. 

Would need plenty of practice, would probably lose at my current level.   Lol

Even better.  Try against CMO himself.   

This polling sadly shows that most Americans are not worthy of being afforded the rights they have inherited as Americans. The Cult appears to be growing as time goes on. They like being bossed around in their private lives. What a pitiful display of ignorant useful idiot sheeple. smh.

Voters broadly in favor of national mask mandate, but more divided on vaccine mandate

Voters would also prefer lax enforcement on mask mandate.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/voters-broadly-favor-national-mask-mandate-more-split-vaccine-mandate

A majority of U.S. voters want a national mask mandate put in place, but they're more evenly divided on a national vaccine mandate, according to a new Just the News Daily Poll with Scott Rasmussen.

Nearly three-quarters of all voters – 73% – favor a nationwide mandate that requires people to wear a face covering "whenever [you] leave home."

Forty-eight percent of the poll respondents backed a U.S. vaccine mandate, while 44% opposed such an order.

On the issue of enforcing a federal mask mandate, 53% of respondents were in favor of mostly lax enforcement, preferring that violators receive a "formal warning," a request to don a mask, or that they be left alone.

Here Schachtel asserts (in the full article) that once the terrified sheep get their safety blanket (a vaccine shot) they'll be more amendable to a reasoned discussion. I doubt it. They are way down in the tank... see the polling above. It's going to be the sane, critical thinking minority against the masses of asses. For a while, if not forever (if Fauci et al. get their Great Reset wish...).

The COVID vaccine can help awaken a world of perma-terrorized sheep

Look on the bright side. It's time to seize this opportunity.

https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/the-covid-vaccine-can-help-awaken

Sure, the coming COVID-19 vaccination deployment is not only unnecessary, but part of an ongoing, blatant, in-your-face power and money grab by countless governments, an emboldened “public health expert” class, and wildly irresponsible Big Pharma giants. However, it’s time to stop litigating the past and look on the bright side of things. Proponents of human freedom have been presented with a golden opportunity to use the coming vaccine rollout as an instrument for a return to normalcy.

Big Pharma brands have already cashed the multi-billion dollar checks from world governments, and hundreds of millions of vaccine doses are being produced for a disease with a 99.8+% recovery rate. The debate over whether the coronavirus vaccine is a necessary thing for the whole of society is long over. That battle was fought a long time ago, and the vaccine-for-all crowd has won the day. Now we must focus on the days ahead.

Those of us who are seeking an end to our semi-permanent state of Corona Madness can leverage the vaccine to lobby for a return to normalcy. The coronavirus vaccine has become akin to a necessary emotional recovery tool for the fearful & terrorized masses, who ate up every large helping of propaganda that they've been served by the media and the “expert” class over the past year. These individuals have created a world for themselves where every human being presents an immediate threat to their life, and the only thing that will help them escape their self-created nightmare is a coronavirus vaccine. Due to their constant state of fear and terror, they are completely inaccessible. They’ve checked out from searching for facts, and they won’t come back to the sanity table until they’ve received their coronavirus vaccines.

Poor volcano

Never saw a volcano spit out yet!

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Vaccines got rid of small pox.  Almost got rid of polio,  and others I might of missed.  FYI.   You can get a world wide cure of a virus.

no learning is taking place...

Would need plenty of practice, would probably lose at my current level.   Lol

you would of lost at your former level too...

no learning is taking place...

You can lead a horse...

And I believe they recovered. But hey be like puna and take your x% chance of death instead.   I have a feeling puna would play Russian roulette for fun.  He clearly says a percentage chance of death doesn't matter 

Also I believe Puna is in a risky age group most likely. Guess he doesn't care that old people take a 1-4 or whatever current percentage chance to die.

ageist assumption!

If he challenges Mrs. Change, I'll front some ammo.

i'll provide ammo for both parties...

No idea where you got 25.  I literally wrote 1-4.  But anyway.  When your gambling puts my family or others I care about at risk you can go fuck yourself.  I could care less if you put yourself or your family at risk.  But its a virus.  Its not contained.  It can spread to others who don't want to be put at risk because of your ignorance.  Same with second hand smoke.  You have no right to influence someone else's health, because you somehow believe smoking has such a LOW chance for death...

really?