Kirk was on TV today and asking for 6 more months.

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but but but...Free Money!

https://www.kitv.com/story/43084736/hawaii-could-receive-dollar1b-as-congress-agrees-on-nearly-trillion-dollar-relief-package

Are you kidding me? They are not the same thing and you sound like the rest of the sheeple who chants what YOUR MASTER brain washes you with, bunch of weak cowards who pretend and even believe  that the government knows best and has our,"SAFETY!" In their best interest.......yeah right!   Death was guaranteed to each of us at the day of our birth, the date time and cause is anyones guess. Im not afraid of this.......it is destiny! Why live in fear? That is not living.......i will live the best that i can and enjoy life and FREEDOM until my mortal body perishes. Then i return back to my previous existence in the spirit world.....see there is no end. Life is eternal! Fear not!

No one is my master but there are those including the government that knows what's best sometimes. Its why we have rules against smoking indoors,  seatbelts,  no drunk driving, murder,  rape and the thousands of other laws.  Its why we believe in listening to doctors and lawyers and accountants.  There are those out there in the world that know more than you on some subjects.  To ignore them is foolish.  You are free to be "free" all you want but you can't influence another persons freedom.  I do not want to be infected, hurt or killed.  Not everyone believes in an afterlife or the same one. 

I know I'm not foolish enough to just take their word for it.

Do as I say not as I do. Peasant.

I liked this British writer's style. And content.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/12/13/why-this-campaign-of-terror/

Why this campaign of terror?

Never outside war time have populations been subjected to such outrageous assault and battery by government propaganda machines

...

In less than a year some malign necromancy has transformed the fearless social beings who once thronged shops and cafés in the run-up to each Christmas into an infestation of dangerous, outsized germs: or, if scrupulous examination of the facts has left you confident that “the novel coronavirus” is no more threatening to moderately healthy people than the nastier brands of flu, into the crazed adherents of some apocalyptic cult.

Since I have spent the past nine months scrupulously examining the facts, the eyes now peering out at me over the inadequate face-covering of that woman beating a hasty retreat behind the cans of tuna as I approach are, it seems to me, those of a poor, unhinged lunatic.   But then, I am an unbeliever.  I do not wear the mask of allegiance.  Marked out by the lanyard around my neck, I do my shopping as quickly as possible, and hurry back to the embattled sanity of domestic life.

...

I caught the Asian flu in 1957.  So did my mother: the only time I ever knew her to take a couple of days off work.  The infection swept through the country, and tens of thousands died.  In 1968 the Hong Kong flu passed me by, but once again the death toll was in the tens of thousands.

On neither occasion was it considered necessary to destroy millions of lives and livelihoods by closing the country down, nor was any attempt made to terrorise its inhabitants.  Covid-19 is no more lethal than either of those previous infections  –  less so, unless you actually believe that all those currently described as dying “with Covid”, or dying within 28 days of testing positive, actually died from Covid.  Never before have such destructive policies been inflicted on the nation in a futile attempt to wipe out a virus.  Never before, outside war time, has the population of the UK been subjected to such outrageous assault and battery by a government propaganda machine.

No one is my master but there are those including the government that knows what's best sometimes. Its why we have rules against smoking indoors,  seatbelts,  no drunk driving, murder,  rape and the thousands of other laws.  Its why we believe in listening to doctors and lawyers and accountants.  There are those out there in the world that know more than you on some subjects.  To ignore them is foolish.  You are free to be "free" all you want but you can't influence another persons freedom.  I do not want to be infected, hurt or killed.  Not everyone believes in an afterlife or the same one.

lol
sometimes it seems almost as if you need to keep on repeating it to yourself rather than to us...

Listen to attorneys, doctors and accountants? OK....

here's an attorney and a police chief that we listened to for years...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2020/12/03/hawaii-corruption-kealoha-couple/

here's an accountant
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/35935343/former-managing-partner-at-top-hawaii-cpa-firm-guilty-on-13-felony-counts/

here's a Honolulu City Councilman and attorney
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2001/07/04/news/story1.html

here's another attorney - I think he speaks Chinese niao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Swalwell

a doctor
https://bigislandnow.com/2019/02/12/former-honolulu-prosecutor-linked-to-big-island-ring/

another doctor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Nassar

not a doctor...I think he "might" be an attorney but I know for sure he was VP. He told us years ago to buy a shotgun? Did anyone listen? I think he mentioned Paypal as a form of payment.

lol
sometimes it seems almost as if you need to keep on repeating it to yourself rather than to us...

People keep asking the same questions,  I'm giving the same answers.  Happens when people tend to have a consistent viewpoint.

Kirk was on TV today and asking for 6 more months.

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Just read your comment at 4:30am and without any coffee in me. My wife and I just started binge watching the Star Trek movies. We just finished Star Trek V right before I went to bed last night. I was thinking about the movie when I read your comment about “Kirk” and first thing that jumped into my mind was William Shatner doesn’t live in Hawaii......   

https://www.rt.com/usa/510278-birx-coronavirus-guidline-violation/

Another expert does not bother to follow their own advice. Starting to see a pattern yet?

These kinds of actions from our so called "leaders" makes me sick.  I keep hearing the lyrics from the group The Pretenders of the song "Brass in Pocket".

I'M SPECIAL, SO SPECIAL.......

A couple of excerpts from Dr. Joondeph... he's just sayin'...

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/covid_vaccines__a_deeper_dive_into_the_data.html

COVID Vaccines – A Deeper Dive into the Data

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

If you look at the entire study population of about 35,000, this many individuals would need to be vaccinated to keep one person out of the hospital. And that one would likely recover. That’s what the vaccine provides.

The cost of vaccinating these 35,000, at a cost of $39 per dose course, is $1.4 million. Vaccinating the entire US population of 330 million would cost almost $13 billion.

Is that money well spent? Is it necessary? What are the costs of lost businesses? Or of social destruction from addictions and suicide due to deferred medical care? No easy answers but worthy of thoughtful discussion rather than censorship and ostracization if you ask these questions.

....

For the average unvaccinated person, the odds of becoming mildly ill with COVID is less than 1 percent, and the odds of being hospitalized is less than one in ten thousand. Yet this vaccine is likely to become mandatory if one wants to work, travel, or shop. And a new means of virtue signaling as physicians are posting photos of themselves on social media getting their vaccines.

Despite these low numbers, we have destroyed our economy due to lockdowns and quarantines. Were these necessary? Was the socio-economic devastation worth it? When if ever will it end? The experts say we are not even halfway through the misery, promising at least another year of this.

I’m not an anti-vaxxer but simply want a reasoned discussion based on “follow the science.”  I will likely get the vaccine as it will be needed for work and travel. I’ll leave the virtue signaling to my colleagues and won’t post a photo of myself to Facebook with a needle in my deltoid.

Moderate length article re some questions about discrepancies in the safety evaluations of the two vaccines currently available. Mostly for detail-oriented science nerds. Here is the final paragraph...

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/were_covid19_vaccine_dangers_covered_up_prior_to_fda_authorization.html

Were COVID-19 Vaccine Dangers Covered Up Prior to FDA Authorization?

Vaccines are long-acting substances, and the COVID-19 vaccines have not been studied for, in most cases, longer than two months.  Those who are studying the vaccines appear to be not entirely truthful about even their short-term dangers.  The aforementioned information, along with other unmentioned information, suggests that the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccines are being covered up or wrongly downplayed by public health and pharmaceutical officials

A couple of excerpts from Dr. Joondeph... he's just sayin'...

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/covid_vaccines__a_deeper_dive_into_the_data.html

COVID Vaccines – A Deeper Dive into the Data

By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

If you look at the entire study population of about 35,000, this many individuals would need to be vaccinated to keep one person out of the hospital. And that one would likely recover. That’s what the vaccine provides.

The cost of vaccinating these 35,000, at a cost of $39 per dose course, is $1.4 million. Vaccinating the entire US population of 330 million would cost almost $13 billion.

Is that money well spent? Is it necessary? What are the costs of lost businesses? Or of social destruction from addictions and suicide due to deferred medical care? No easy answers but worthy of thoughtful discussion rather than censorship and ostracization if you ask these questions.

....

For the average unvaccinated person, the odds of becoming mildly ill with COVID is less than 1 percent, and the odds of being hospitalized is less than one in ten thousand. Yet this vaccine is likely to become mandatory if one wants to work, travel, or shop. And a new means of virtue signaling as physicians are posting photos of themselves on social media getting their vaccines.

Despite these low numbers, we have destroyed our economy due to lockdowns and quarantines. Were these necessary? Was the socio-economic devastation worth it? When if ever will it end? The experts say we are not even halfway through the misery, promising at least another year of this.

I’m not an anti-vaxxer but simply want a reasoned discussion based on “follow the science.”  I will likely get the vaccine as it will be needed for work and travel. I’ll leave the virtue signaling to my colleagues and won’t post a photo of myself to Facebook with a needle in my deltoid.

We vaccine for the flu which is far less severe than covid.  That way less people get and pass the flu on, less downtime on workforce etc.   There's many reasons to vaccinate the population.

Just read your comment at 4:30am and without any coffee in me. My wife and I just started binge watching the Star Trek movies. We just finished Star Trek V right before I went to bed last night. I was thinking about the movie when I read your comment about “Kirk” and first thing that jumped into my mind was William Shatner doesn’t live in Hawaii......   

Focus 

I use Kirk because Caldwell takes much more effort to type, especially from a phone that has small buttons.  Ige is easy to type.

This is a long one (lots of charts use lots of space) from Tom Woods today... but... he can't help it if there is so much data proving the Safety Cult is full of shit.

Charts your virus-panicking friends can't explain

You may have noticed something about your social media contacts.

They think cases go up when people disregard state-imposed restrictions, and go down when they comply.

These are people who haven't seen any charts.

Some of the ones that follow were generated by Ian Miller (@ianmSC), and some by me using the Worldometers site.

Let's start with two Orange Counties, one in California and one in Florida. The one in California has been shut down for eight months. It is the home of the only Disney property in the world that is still closed. California has a young population: it's the 44th oldest of the 50 states.

The one in Florida is completely open, including theme parks and entertainment venues, with no state-imposed occupancy restrictions. Florida is the second-oldest of the 50 states.

Isn't it funny how closely the two track each other -- until the end, of course, when California's goes through the roof?



I guess California and Florida obey and then disobey at exactly the same time. What a coincidence!

Well, let's check in on California at large -- all those restrictions must be really helping:



Ahem.

Let's check on Mississippi and Alabama. They're right next to each other, with very similar populations, but the've imposed mask mandates at different times and had different timetables and policies for the reopening of various kinds of businesses. Their charts must be wildly different, right?

And yet:



Poland has had a mask mandate as of April 17. Apparently they must have started ignoring guidelines and began traveling for some kind of Polish Thanksgiving in early October:



Here's what deaths in Poland look like:



Back in May, we got stories about Slovakia like this one in the Atlantic: "Lessons From Slovakia—Where Leaders Wear Masks. The country’s politicians led by example, helping it flatten its curve."

Here's Slovakia right now:



I guess there's some Slovakian tradition in October where they burn their masks.

Or how about Hungary:



And here's Germany, the land of $5000 fines for not wearing masks:



Isn't this weird? It's like all the peoples of central Europe conspired to ignore public health recommendations all at once!

It's almost like there's some kind of seasonal pattern going on in central Europe -- but we know that can't be, because rises in deaths are always somebody's fault.

Let's make a quick trip to Asia: check out the similarity of the curves in Japan and South Korea. How weird that their peoples followed, then disregarded, then followed, and then again disregarded public health recommendations at precisely the same time in both places!






Remember being told how bad we all were for visiting people during Thanksgiving? There are major spikes in many countries of the world, as we've just seen, even without a Thanksgiving there, but our betters aren't letting that stop them from blaming us for a rise in hospitalizations. (The rate of growth in hospitalizations in the U.S. actually slowed after Thanksgiving, incidentally.)

But here's the problem:

More than half of the hospitalization increase after Thanksgiving occurred in California and New York! Didn't those jokers hear that the way to avoid this is by lockdowns and masks? Sheesh!



Oh, and here are North and South Dakota. North Dakota imposed a bunch of occupancy restrictions to "stop the spread." South Dakota didn't.

Gee, isn't that funny -- their numbers look exactly the same:



I think I've made my point.

Since we're showing other countries and when mandates/laws were passed, Taiwan has had no citizens for about 200 days now with CV.  Only ones that are bringing it in are the workers from PI, Singapore, Malay, etc... But they have to quarantine for 14 days in quarantine hotels anyways, so it doesn't spread to the rest of the population.  About 2 months ago, Taiwan allowed these non-citizens in for work purposes only.  So those coming in were like 1 a day or every other day  that have CV.

Their numbers are not on the WHO website because they are not part of WHO. Taiwan has a mask mandate, but was provided by their government to the 24 million population.  The gov makes about 20 million mask a day at it's peak.  What did help Taiwan that no one is really talking about is they shut down their boarders in and out.  Like when Trump blocked Chyna, there was a huge outcry by the left.  Then they denied it and Biden denied it at the debate.

IIRC since this began, Taiwan had a total of 300 cases and 7 deaths.  They never shut down schools, businesses, nor rely on tourism like how HI does.

omniscient one will say to listen to the experts
this is all fake news
he apologizes for the fact we are too stoopid to realize how much smarter and logical he is than us peons...

This is a long one (lots of charts use lots of space) from Tom Woods today... but... he can't help it if there is so much data proving the Safety Cult is full of shit.

Charts your virus-panicking friends can't explain

You may have noticed something about your social media contacts.

They think cases go up when people disregard state-imposed restrictions, and go down when they comply.

These are people who haven't seen any charts.

Some of the ones that follow were generated by Ian Miller (@ianmSC), and some by me using the Worldometers site.

Let's start with two Orange Counties, one in California and one in Florida. The one in California has been shut down for eight months. It is the home of the only Disney property in the world that is still closed. California has a young population: it's the 44th oldest of the 50 states.

The one in Florida is completely open, including theme parks and entertainment venues, with no state-imposed occupancy restrictions. Florida is the second-oldest of the 50 states.

Isn't it funny how closely the two track each other -- until the end, of course, when California's goes through the roof?



I guess California and Florida obey and then disobey at exactly the same time. What a coincidence!

Well, let's check in on California at large -- all those restrictions must be really helping:



Ahem.

Let's check on Mississippi and Alabama. They're right next to each other, with very similar populations, but the've imposed mask mandates at different times and had different timetables and policies for the reopening of various kinds of businesses. Their charts must be wildly different, right?

And yet:



Poland has had a mask mandate as of April 17. Apparently they must have started ignoring guidelines and began traveling for some kind of Polish Thanksgiving in early October:



Here's what deaths in Poland look like:



Back in May, we got stories about Slovakia like this one in the Atlantic: "Lessons From Slovakia—Where Leaders Wear Masks. The country’s politicians led by example, helping it flatten its curve."

Here's Slovakia right now:



I guess there's some Slovakian tradition in October where they burn their masks.

Or how about Hungary:



And here's Germany, the land of $5000 fines for not wearing masks:



Isn't this weird? It's like all the peoples of central Europe conspired to ignore public health recommendations all at once!

It's almost like there's some kind of seasonal pattern going on in central Europe -- but we know that can't be, because rises in deaths are always somebody's fault.

Let's make a quick trip to Asia: check out the similarity of the curves in Japan and South Korea. How weird that their peoples followed, then disregarded, then followed, and then again disregarded public health recommendations at precisely the same time in both places!






Remember being told how bad we all were for visiting people during Thanksgiving? There are major spikes in many countries of the world, as we've just seen, even without a Thanksgiving there, but our betters aren't letting that stop them from blaming us for a rise in hospitalizations. (The rate of growth in hospitalizations in the U.S. actually slowed after Thanksgiving, incidentally.)

But here's the problem:

More than half of the hospitalization increase after Thanksgiving occurred in California and New York! Didn't those jokers hear that the way to avoid this is by lockdowns and masks? Sheesh!



Oh, and here are North and South Dakota. North Dakota imposed a bunch of occupancy restrictions to "stop the spread." South Dakota didn't.

Gee, isn't that funny -- their numbers look exactly the same:



I think I've made my point.