The COVID Cult (Read 1791111 times)

Inspector

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

QUIETShooter

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1842 on: February 01, 2021, 07:29:34 AM »
How come the report mentioned that upper respiratory testing cannot be self administered, but the anal ass swab penetration will either be done by the patient or health workers?

How come the ass procedure is either or?  Depends on the shape of your ass?  If you're good looking then the health worker will want to do it?  If you're ugly then you're on your own?

What if you give attitude?  Will they use a cotton swab or a whole toilet paper roll?  The 450 sheet one.




Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1843 on: February 01, 2021, 07:36:26 AM »
Drive up anal swab test
What, Me Worry?

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1844 on: February 01, 2021, 07:43:22 AM »
And... the Safety Cultists will dismiss this as "just another coincidence" and/or "so rare that it's worth killing or permanently disabling a few people" in the name of SAFETY!!!

Or... maybe it's not a "coincidence"... see second article re two physicians who predicted exactly this sort of reaction in certain people... and warned the FDA

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/19-year-old-hospitalized-with-heart-inflammation-after-pfizer-vaccination-657428

19-year-old hospitalized in ICU days after receiving second Pfizer vaccine

A 19-year-old was hospitalized with myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, five days after receiving his second dose of the coronavirus vaccine, TEREM emergency medical clinics reported Monday.
According to the clinic, it has still not been confirmed that the inflammation was developed as a side effect of the vaccination. However, a number of COVID-19-related myocarditis cases have been reported, according to the US National Institutes of Health.

“The fact that the symptoms started immediately after the vaccination raises the suspicion that an immunological reaction may have caused the inflammation,” said Dr. Abdulhadi Farojeh, a TEREM medical director.
The young man received treatment at a TEREM center in Modi’in on Sunday night before being transferred for further treatment to Shamir Medical Center in Tzrifin.

He had experienced an accelerated heartbeat since the time of his second vaccine, along with shortness of breath and sharp pains that were radiating down his left arm, according to Dr. Badarnih Bahaa.
TEREM took blood tests that revealed the heart inflammation.

Without treatment, myocarditis can lead to cardiac arrhythmia and even death.

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The "not a coincidence" evidence... read the whole article, including the one physician's letter to the FDA and Pfizer if you want the details...

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/cardiothoracic-surgeon-warns-fda-pfizer-on-immunological-danger-of-covid-vaccines-in-recently-convalescent-and-asymptomatic-carriers

Cardiothoracic surgeon warns FDA, Pfizer on immunological danger of COVID vaccines in recently convalescent and asymptomatic carriers

Dr. Hooman Noorchashm says FDA, Pfizer and Moderna must consider the danger COVID vaccines pose to the recently convalescent or asymptomatic carriers of SARS-CoV-2 — especially the elderly, frail or anyone with significant cardiovascular risk factors.

January 29, 2021 (Children's Health Defense) — In a letter to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Pfizer and the press, Dr. Hooman Noorchashm warns of an “almost certain immunological prognotication that if viral antigens are present in the tissues of subjects who undergo vaccination, the antigen specific immune response triggered by the vaccine will target those tissues and cause tissue inflammation and damage.”

Noorchashm, M.D., Ph.D., is a physician-scientist and advocate for ethics, patient safety and women’s health. He specializes in cardiothoracic surgery and has taught and practiced medicine for nearly two decades.

“Dr. Noorchashm’s prognostications of harm in elderly individuals with cardiovascular disease coincides with the numerous reports of unexplained  cardiovascular deaths following COVID-19 vaccination in Norway, Germany, the UK, Gibraltar and the U.S.,” said Lyn Redwood, RN, MSN, director and president emerita of Children’s Health Defense.

Redwood noted that J. Patrick Whelan, M.D., Ph.D., sent similar concerns to the FDA on Dec. 8, 2020.

Whelan raised even more worrisome questions, Redwood said, in that he cited research showing that in addition to the heart, ACE-2 receptors are also present in microvasculature of the brain, liver and kidney.

“Ignoring these valid and scientifically supported warnings from leading physicians may result in hundreds of millions of people suffering potentially deadly injuries or permanent damage following vaccination,” Redwood said. “It will also further erode the dwindling confidence that our country has in our federal regulatory agencies to protect the health of all Americans.” 

Redwood called on the FDA and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to convene emergency meetings to review these concerns and issue new guidelines for vaccine administration that address these concerns.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1845 on: February 01, 2021, 07:52:40 AM »
These people (Safety Cult) are so insane... every day there is at least one "you can't make this shit up" new abomination of reason and science instituted by these morons.

The vast majority of masks are single layer, thus the "two masks" necessity... will the Safety Cultists have law enforcement checking all single mask wearers to make sure their mask is double-layered? They should, since there would be no guarantee of SAFTETY!!! without such checks.

Oh, and Fauci on last Friday:  “There’s no data that indicates that that [wearing two masks] is going to make a difference”

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/medical-tyranny-cdc-announces-all-travelers-must-wear-two-masks-threatens-arrest

Medical Tyranny: CDC Announces All Travelers Must Wear Two Masks, Threatens Arrest

The Center for Disease Control has issued a new coronavirus order requiring DOUBLE masks to be worn for all forms of public transportation in the United States.

From CNN:

The CDC announced an order late Friday that will require people to wear a face mask while using any form of public transportation, including buses, trains, taxis, airplanes, boats, subways or ride-share vehicles while traveling into, within and out of the US.

The order goes into effect at 11:59 p.m. Monday.

Masks must be worn while waiting, boarding, traveling and disembarking, it said. The coverings need to be at least two or more layers of breathable fabric secured to the head with ties, ear loops or elastic bands — and scarves and bandanas do not count, the order says.

The CDC said it reserves the right to enforce the order through criminal penalties, but it “strongly encourages and anticipates widespread voluntary compliance” and expects support from other federal agencies to implement the order.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1846 on: February 01, 2021, 07:57:09 AM »
Anyone who disdains these tyrannical fascist authoritarians imposing their absurd irrational evidence-less garbage under penalty of law upon the innocent... might want to submit testimony (this morning or late) re the bill in committee tomorrow morning re mandated mask wearing until 12 31 21. Down on your knees slave.

Editorial comment: Fuck these assholes.

PS Why use the term "face covering" when the real definition is "mask"? These people have to lie and attempt to deceive at every opportunity... i.e. every time they open their mouths. At the very end of the bill, after using "face covering" throughout, they mention that a "face shield" (accepted in lieu of masks at places like Target, Safeway, Walmart, etc.) are NOT acceptable. Fucking liars and thieves.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=726&year=2021


HB726   

Measure Title:   RELATING TO FACE COVERINGS.
Report Title:   Face Coverings; Mandate; Fine
Description:   Requires every person to wear a face covering when in a public setting, subject to certain exceptions. Establishes a fine for failure to wear a face covering. Sunsets December 31, 2021.



macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1847 on: February 01, 2021, 08:00:29 AM »
the CDC order says "two layers", it says nothing about "double masking"

These people (Safety Cult) are so insane... every day there is at least one "you can't make this shit up" new abomination of reason and science instituted by these morons.

The vast majority of masks are single layer, thus the "two masks" necessity... will the Safety Cultists have law enforcement checking all single mask wearers to make sure their mask is double-layered? They should, since there would be no guarantee of SAFTETY!!! without such checks.

Oh, and Fauci on last Friday:  “There’s no data that indicates that that [wearing two masks] is going to make a difference”

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/medical-tyranny-cdc-announces-all-travelers-must-wear-two-masks-threatens-arrest

Medical Tyranny: CDC Announces All Travelers Must Wear Two Masks, Threatens Arrest

The Center for Disease Control has issued a new coronavirus order requiring DOUBLE masks to be worn for all forms of public transportation in the United States.

From CNN:

The CDC announced an order late Friday that will require people to wear a face mask while using any form of public transportation, including buses, trains, taxis, airplanes, boats, subways or ride-share vehicles while traveling into, within and out of the US.

The order goes into effect at 11:59 p.m. Monday.

Masks must be worn while waiting, boarding, traveling and disembarking, it said. The coverings need to be at least two or more layers of breathable fabric secured to the head with ties, ear loops or elastic bands — and scarves and bandanas do not count, the order says.

The CDC said it reserves the right to enforce the order through criminal penalties, but it “strongly encourages and anticipates widespread voluntary compliance” and expects support from other federal agencies to implement the order.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1848 on: February 01, 2021, 08:03:25 AM »
the CDC order says "two layers", it says nothing about "double masking"
Focus:

"The vast majority of masks are single layer, thus the "two masks" necessity..."

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1849 on: February 01, 2021, 08:28:15 AM »
Focus:

"The vast majority of masks are single layer, thus the "two masks" necessity..."

i understand that
but the title says that the cdc ordered it

and that "vast majority" phrase is incorrect
all the cloth masks that i have ever seen are at least 2 layers, and even the non medical "surgical" masks that people wear are at least 3 layers

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1850 on: February 01, 2021, 09:37:30 AM »
What's good for the goose is good for the gander? Not if you're a Safety Cult hypocrite...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/president-trumps-first-10-days-facing-covid-zero-deaths-despite-promising-end-covid-biden-incurs-nearly-40000-deaths-time-period/

Despite Promising to End COVID Joe Biden Incurs Nearly 40,000 Deaths in First 10 Days in Office

The coronavirus results today are horrible.

Does China Joe Biden not care about Americans?

We noted on January 20th, that it was time to hold China Joe Biden accountable for all the COVID deaths.  This practice is consistent with how Big Media and their Democrat politicians held President Trump accountable for the China coronavirus deaths during his presidency:

The media discounted all efforts by President Trump to address the China coronavirus.  They claimed he did nothing when he was the only leader bold enough to ban flights from China when the disease was starting to spread across the globe.  Although COVID-19 came from China, Big Media blamed all the deaths on President Trump.

Using the same logic, Joe Biden is now accountable for nearly 40,000 China coronavirus deaths:



President Trump had to deal with the China coronavirus for a month before the first death in the US was reported on February 6th.

It is so sad that Biden, after promising to end COVID, had no real plan except to borrow on what President Trump already accomplished.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1851 on: February 01, 2021, 09:54:34 AM »
What's good for the goose is good for the gander? Not if you're a Safety Cult hypocrite...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/president-trumps-first-10-days-facing-covid-zero-deaths-despite-promising-end-covid-biden-incurs-nearly-40000-deaths-time-period/

Despite Promising to End COVID Joe Biden Incurs Nearly 40,000 Deaths in First 10 Days in Office

The coronavirus results today are horrible.

Does China Joe Biden not care about Americans?

We noted on January 20th, that it was time to hold China Joe Biden accountable for all the COVID deaths.  This practice is consistent with how Big Media and their Democrat politicians held President Trump accountable for the China coronavirus deaths during his presidency:

The media discounted all efforts by President Trump to address the China coronavirus.  They claimed he did nothing when he was the only leader bold enough to ban flights from China when the disease was starting to spread across the globe.  Although COVID-19 came from China, Big Media blamed all the deaths on President Trump.

Using the same logic, Joe Biden is now accountable for nearly 40,000 China coronavirus deaths:



President Trump had to deal with the China coronavirus for a month before the first death in the US was reported on February 6th.

It is so sad that Biden, after promising to end COVID, had no real plan except to borrow on what President Trump already accomplished.

"No real plan"  :rofl:

He's already made changes.  The exact ones you keep bitching about. You know dem evil mask mandates.  😷 😈

Also purchasing and expansion of vaccines. 

But yup in the end I would give a 2 week layaway. Then all current deaths are on Biden. 

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1852 on: February 01, 2021, 09:56:18 AM »
i understand that
but the title says that the cdc ordered it

and that "vast majority" phrase is incorrect
all the cloth masks that i have ever seen are at least 2 layers, and even the non medical "surgical" masks that people wear are at least 3 layers
The mask I was given by personnel at Hilo Medical Center to gain entry, who claim to be enforcing CDC standards, was a "medical/surgical" type mask consisting of one layer of very thin cloth, and one layer of a tissue like paper. Light transmission is barely impaired. I see a lot of people wearing masks that look identical to it externally.

The rule has always been that an "effective" mask must not allow light penetration.

Here is the quote from the CDC in their new "order":

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/masks/mask-travel-guidance.html

Cloth masks should be made with two or more layers of a breathable fabric [is paper a "fabric"?] that is tightly woven (i.e., fabrics that do not let light pass through when held up to a light source).

EDIT: correct spelling typo
« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 12:57:30 PM by punaperson »

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1853 on: February 01, 2021, 10:35:36 AM »
cloth masks are different than the "surgical" masks

The mask I was given by personnel at Hilo Medical Center to gain entry, who claim to be enforcing CDC standards, was a "medical/surgical" type mask consisting of one layer of very thin cloth, and one layer of a tissue like paper. Light transmission is barely impaired. I see a lot of people wearing masks that look identical to it externally.

The rule has always been that an "effective" mask must not allow light penetration.

Here is the quote from the CDC in they're new "order":

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/masks/mask-travel-guidance.html

Cloth masks should be made with two or more layers of a breathable fabric [is paper a "fabric"?] that is tightly woven (i.e., fabrics that do not let light pass through when held up to a light source).

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1855 on: February 01, 2021, 01:05:07 PM »
cloth masks are different than the "surgical" masks
Please explain in detail your beliefs about the distinctions between "cloth masks" and "surgical masks", and which, if any meet the current requirement for two layers of "fabric" and zero light transmission. Then cite a peer-reviewed randomized controlled trial that concluded that masks are effective in preventing the transmission of any virus.

Why would the hospital, claiming to be enforcing CDC policy, be giving out masks that don't come close to meeting CDC standards? Will the state (if HB 726 passes... or even to enforce current emergency proclamation standards) use the same criteria to arrest and/or cite violators of which standard?

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1856 on: February 01, 2021, 01:15:29 PM »
Please explain in detail your beliefs about the distinctions between "cloth masks" and "surgical masks", and which, if any meet the current requirement for two layers of "fabric" and zero light transmission. Then cite a peer-reviewed randomized controlled trial that concluded that masks are effective in preventing the transmission of any virus.

Why would the hospital, claiming to be enforcing CDC policy, be giving out masks that don't come close to meeting CDC standards? Will the state (if HB 726 passes... or even to enforce current emergency proclamation standards) use the same criteria to arrest and/or cite violators of which standard?

the cdc says that cloth masks have to have 2 layers of tightly woven fabric
it does not specify any such details for medical/surgical type masks
the hospital was not violating cdc guidelines in any way

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1857 on: February 01, 2021, 01:47:53 PM »
the cdc says that cloth masks have to have 2 layers of tightly woven fabric
it does not specify any such details for medical/surgical type masks
the hospital was not violating cdc guidelines in any way

from the link you provided:
"Medical masks and N-95 respirators fulfill the requirements of the Order."

note: i will not provide you peer reviewed studies because i am not discussing whether or not masks are effective

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1858 on: February 01, 2021, 04:54:02 PM »
When will the cops in Hawaii stand up against the restrictions? LOL.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1355981790117298178

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #1859 on: February 01, 2021, 05:16:35 PM »
From Tom Woods today:

As you know, lots of people want to make a morality play for simpletons out of the COVID lockdowns and restrictions.

Backward hicks in baseball caps refuse to "follow the science," the story goes, and if only they would, we'd be out of this.

I keep sending out examples that undermine this story.

Just today, I came across a fellow on Twitter who, unable to explain Florida's result, described it as "very average," adding that "I think we have to assume some noise and/or non-policy factors (eg FL being warmer and better suited to outdoor dining)."

My response to him:

"California, with one of the country's youngest populations, is also 'warm,' and its numbers on hospitalizations, deaths, etc., are worse right now than at any time in Florida, and the overall death rate is only trivially different, with the age of their populations explaining that differential entirely."

Then, in another Tweet, I added:

"Even if the results were 'very average,' isn't it astonishing that the state with the second-oldest population would have achieved even average results? Our results should be absolutely catastrophic, not 'very average.' People are going to theaters, concerts, etc., here. How?"

In fact, when Florida reopened, the hysterics screamed about what they were sure was about to happen. I assure you, they weren't warning us: "If you reopen, your results will be very average."

We'll see if I get an answer.

Now for some graphics.

The first one involves the comparison no lockdowner wants to deal with, as the pathetic response of the critic above makes clear. (He's reduced to saying that Florida -- which has no state-imposed restrictions -- has had only average results, when you know darn well people like him were predicting outright catastrophe.)

So here it is: Los Angeles, where life has been canceled for close to a year, compared to Florida, where I have tickets to three concerts over the next two months:



One more.

Your next-door neighbor thinks it's lack of compliance that explains differences in COVID results.

When you compare one state with another, your neighbor either changes the subject or tries to pretend that there are too many factors at stake to compare one state with another.

All right, then how about we just stick to one state?

California counties have implemented different policies at different times, yet their ICU usage numbers seem exactly the same -- almost as if COVID doesn't care what we do. How odd!