You don't know the definition of "right".

In the beginning of the vaccine, only certain groups of people were allowed to receive it.  In some states, the elderly were first.  In other states, elderly were not among the first.

If the vaccine were a "right", wouldn't that mean everyone is eligible to get it, based on their right, without gov't discrimination?

By mid this year, when a potential "passport" should be available everyone has a "right" to get a vaccine. The passport program should not be implemented until, everyone has an opportunity to get a shot.  Or if implemented have a caveat that if they are not in a group that is eligible they are exempt.

You didn't say that. 

Rights exist EVEN WHEN THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT.  You called the vaccine a "right".

Now you say the gov't has a DUTY to protect the people from disease?  Where is that in the Constitution?  "Provide for the common defense," as in military defense, is an actual gov't function.  Nowhere does it state the gov't is responsible for prevention or treatment of sickness.

You've tried to argue "right", and now "duty."  Neither is correct.

The government's role is not to do everything for everyone.  It's role is to provide a working mechanism for passing laws and enforcing them to carry out the dictates in the Constitution.  Period.

The gov't was never intended to take care of you from cradle to grave.  How can it?  Individuals must make those choices themselves.  As for the poor, there were always programs AT THE STATE LEVEL to provide vaccinations for the poor.  It was called the State Health Department, where I received all my immunizations before going to school.  Expecting the Federal gov't to do that was insanity.

Now, the states have mostly done away with those immunization programs because it became too expensive, and the FEDERAL gov't created an alternative:  Medicaid.

You really need to back off this topic.  You don't have a clue.

A government exists to protect rights.  Rights do not exist technically without government.  People debate rights,  implement laws to protect said rights.  Each government defines rights differently.  In a world without government there can be no true universal rights because no one is bound to follow them. 

One could argue the common defense 100% applies to this virus.   The government role and duty is indeed to protect its citizens from threats, outside threats and internal. The same way we protect ourselves from china, and internal terrorists. 

I got more of a clue than you.

Here's a slightly longer version of her "impending doom" comments. Note what her suggestion is: "Just please hold on a little while longer." [What does that even mean?]

And that, ladies and gentleman, is the professional medical opinion of the physician who is Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

My favorite part was her saying 'I am gonna stop reading the script' and you watch her eyes as she is still reading the script. And that right there is the problem. Someone wrote a script for 'the expert' to broadcast to the world. Someone 'higher' than the CDC is overriding their actual function/purpose.

A government exists to protect rights.  Rights do not exist technically without government.  People debate rights,  implement laws to protect said rights.  Each government defines rights differently.  In a world without government there can be no true universal rights because no one is bound to follow them. 

One could argue the common defense 100% applies to this virus.   The government role and duty is indeed to protect its citizens from threats, outside threats and internal. The same way we protect ourselves from china, and internal terrorists. 

I got more of a clue than you.

LOL!! The Peoples' Republic of China was not available to comment.   

A government exists to protect rights.  Rights do not exist technically without government. 

Might want to read the Declaration of Independence, it tells you specifically where your rights come from, and it is NOT the government. It's right around the Truth is Self Evident part. We were never and never will be a Communist country.

Govts don't exist to protect individual rights - if so, how do you explain our local govt whenever they try to pass any anti-gun legislation?  In addition to anti-2a bills this year they introduced HB 169 which broadens the definition of disorderly conduct to include free speech.
We the People are supposed to protect ourselves and our rights given to us by the Founders, but this "pandemic" has erased that important civil obligation.

There is a difference between paying for something and a right  Theres nothing in the Bill of Rights that imply payment to exercise a right. Key word is inalienable. Thats why there is this twisted term being pushed around our local political scene - "housing rights". When a political figure adds a "right" to a commodity its wealth redistribution in other words taking money from hard working people and giving it to others.
All of us were charged through taxes. To dismiss an "upfront" cost is naive. BLUF: Taxpayers paid for it. Not everyone has a right to it i.e. illegal immigrants and the rest of the world.

Housing is definitely not a right,  you can live perfectly fine without it.  Healthcare is a bit more tricky, its a right , in the sense you have the right to be treated at the hospital if you are sick.  The hospital cant turn you away.  How you pay for it is a much more gray area.
One of governments main job is to protect you and enforce laws.  Internal threats and external threats.   A deadly virus definitely falls under one or both of those threats.  A house, does not.

Govts don't exist to protect individual rights - if so, how do you explain our local govt whenever they try to pass any anti-gun legislation?  In addition to anti-2a bills this year they introduced HB 169 which broadens the definition of disorderly conduct to include free speech.
We the People are supposed to protect ourselves and our rights given to us by the Founders, but this "pandemic" has erased that important civil obligation.

Governments are not perfect,  there is the ideal world and duties it should strive for.  Sometimes they stray and its up to its citizens to correct them. 

Might want to read the Declaration of Independence, it tells you specifically where your rights come from, and it is NOT the government. It's right around the Truth is Self Evident part. We were never and never will be a Communist country.

If rights do not come from the government who can enforce it?  If you believe you have a right to live, but someone believes the opposite, someone has to choose which is correct.  That's a governments job.  To protect the individuals rights as defined by its laws and the constitution.
God can't enforce peoples rights FYI. 

Might want to read the Declaration of Independence, it tells you specifically where your rights come from, and it is NOT the government. It's right around the Truth is Self Evident part. We were never and never will be a Communist country.

He doesn't believe in religion or God!

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He doesn't believe in religion or God!

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Please explain to me on how God can enforce rights on our mortal lands.  Perhaps in the afterlife he can.  You have the "god given" right to live but if a criminal wishes to deprive you of that, its not God that's going to stop it.  Its you, the government or something similar that will.  Thats why we have the 2nd amendment.  If all rights were truly protected by God, such a thing would not need to exist.

There are also multiple religions, is there multiple rights?

If rights do not come from the government who can enforce it?  If you believe you have a right to live, but someone believes the opposite, someone has to choose which is correct.  That's a governments job.  To protect the individuals rights as defined by its laws and the constitution.
God can't enforce peoples rights FYI.

If you and a dozen others are on an island in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, under no jurisdiction of any country, is it your contention that you have NO RIGHTS -- no right to free speech, no right to self defense, and no right to privacy?

In that situation, I wonder WHO is responsible for protecting your rights?  Could it be ...... YOU?!

If you and a dozen others are on an island in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, under no jurisdiction of any country, is it your contention that you have NO RIGHTS -- no right to free speech, no right to self defense, and no right to privacy?

In that situation, I wonder WHO is responsible for protecting your rights?  Could it be ...... YOU?!

Its up to you, but its not a truly a central right.  It can only be enforced by yourself.  If you and the others agree on certain rights, bam you have society rules...aka government.

Govts don't exist to protect individual rights - if so, how do you explain our local govt whenever they try to pass any anti-gun legislation?  In addition to anti-2a bills this year they introduced HB 169 which broadens the definition of disorderly conduct to include free speech.
We the People are supposed to protect ourselves and our rights given to us by the Founders, but this "pandemic" has erased that important civil obligation.

I was reading about that.  To me, the only guys who could get in trouble are the "molon labe" guys.  Because the new portion of the bill requires 3 parts to be met.

Please explain to me on how God can enforce rights on our mortal lands.  Perhaps in the afterlife he can.  You have the "god given" right to live but if a criminal wishes to deprive you of that, its not God that's going to stop it.  Its you, the government or something similar that will.  Thats why we have the 2nd amendment.  If all rights were truly protected by God, such a thing would not need to exist.

There are also multiple religions, is there multiple rights?

God and the Constitution

https://www.christianpost.com/news/god-and-the-constitution.html

That would be another thread.

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Interesting how some people believe our government is not based on God, but then every opening of every session of Congress, every ceremony at the White House, and every major gathering in government begins with a prayer.

Duh.

To liberals, government seems to exist to control the behavior of the masses, whether to conform to whatever leftist dogma for the day is, or redistributing the proceeds of other's labor.

IIRC, the democrats pointedly omitted any reference to God in recent conventions.

Interesting how some people believe our government is not based on God, but then every opening of every session of Congress, every ceremony at the White House, and every major gathering in government begins with a prayer.

Duh.

No one is perfect, there are many gods, etc, etc.  They are free to say whatever, freedom of speech etc. 

God and the Constitution

https://www.christianpost.com/news/god-and-the-constitution.html

That would be another thread.

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Constitution might mention God, but its not some perfect document that can never change.  There are many religions, gods, people.   Much has evolved over the years.  Also the site you linked is beyond biased.

No one is perfect, there are many gods, etc, etc.  They are free to say whatever, freedom of speech etc.

There is no free speech right for the government.  It's an individual right.

Notice how the 10 Commandments have been removed from courthouses, as were Christmas Trees and Nativity Scenes from government properties.  No natural/God-given rights exist for government.

Stop.  Just stop.