The COVID Cult (Read 1600644 times)

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8300 on: September 17, 2021, 09:16:07 AM »

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8301 on: September 17, 2021, 09:57:20 AM »

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8302 on: September 17, 2021, 10:18:42 AM »
FDA says NO! to booster for the general population...

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8303 on: September 17, 2021, 10:23:42 AM »
FDA says NO! to booster for the general population...

Are you kidding me, Pfizer, volume 1 gazillion
They want booster approval based on studies covering about 300 people - with no control arms. BUT IT GETS BETTER. They tested it in 12 (yes, 12!) people over 65.

Alex Berenson
Sep 15   

The FDA just released its briefing book for Pfizer’s request for a third dose of Comirnaty (or is that BNT162b2? No matter! It’s approved either way, sorta).

It is every bit the mess we all expected.

Let’s go to the highlights:

Pfizer basically hasn’t bothered to test the booster AT ALL in the people actually at risk - it conducted a single “Phase 1” trial that covered 12 people over 65. The main Phase 2/3 booster trial (beware efforts to cover multiple “phases” of drug research at once, you want it bad you get it bad) included no one over 55.

No one.

As in NONE.

Which makes total sense - why test the booster in people who actually need it because they’re at high risk from the ro? Nothing good can come of that.

So that’s our trial design.

Now safety:

Of the 300 people who received the booster, one had a heart attack two months later. No worries, Pfizer concluded it wasn’t related. Yay!

Five percent of recipients had enlarged lymph nodes.

How about effectiveness?

Well, we don’t have enough data - or any data, really - telling us how well the booster will work.

But the FDA made Pfizer go back and review its data from the pivotal clinical trial from last year. Pfizer compared people who received the vaccine with those who received the placebo and THEN the vaccine (the best we can do at this point, since Pfizer blew up the trial by giving placebo subjects the vaccine, double-yay!)

Pfizer concluded that your annual risk of getting Covid-19 IF YOU ARE VACCINATED is about 7 percent.

Further:

“An additional analysis appears to indicate that incidence of COVID-19 generally increased in each group of study participants with increasing time post-Dose 2 at the start of the analysis period.”

Oh.

But don’t worry, Uncle Joe already told you you can get your booster on September 20. If it’s good enough for our fearless leader, it should be good enough for the FDA, amirite?

SCIENCE!

SOURCE: https://www.fda.gov/media/152176/download

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8304 on: September 17, 2021, 11:00:36 AM »
Pfizer isn't the only one making big profits.

Federal Reserve officials, including Chairman Powell, owned securities that the U.S. central bank has bought during the #COVID19 pandemic (CNBC)



https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1438901780587425795

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8305 on: September 17, 2021, 12:06:33 PM »
FDA says NO! to booster for the general population...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fda-panel-votes-against-pfizers-booster-shot-193422705.html

Where did you find that?  This article says they will determine next week.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8306 on: September 17, 2021, 12:10:43 PM »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fda-panel-votes-against-pfizers-booster-shot-193422705.html

Where did you find that?  This article says they will determine next week.

once again, you didn't even read the article you posted

The vote authorizing a booster for 65 and older was the panel's second decision of the afternoon, following a ruling against booster doses for Americans 16 and over. The second vote also approved emergency use authorization rather than a supplemental approval of the already fully-licensed vaccine.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8307 on: September 17, 2021, 12:12:06 PM »
once again, you didn't even read the article you posted

The vote authorizing a booster for 65 and older was the panel's second decision of the afternoon, following a ruling against booster doses for Americans 16 and over. The second vote also approved emergency use authorization rather than a supplemental approval of the already fully-licensed vaccine.

they are meeting next week to define which of the over 65s they will recommend the 3rd dose to

focus

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8308 on: September 17, 2021, 12:12:10 PM »
once again, you didn't even read the article you posted

The vote authorizing a booster for 65 and older was the panel's second decision of the afternoon, following a ruling against booster doses for Americans 16 and over. The second vote also approved emergency use authorization rather than a supplemental approval of the already fully-licensed vaccine.

Does he ever read the links he post? (Rhetorical)

Or maybe cause he still thinks EUA and approval are the same.  Either way he's wrong.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8309 on: September 17, 2021, 12:17:05 PM »
Does he ever read the links he post? (Rhetorical)

Or maybe cause he still thinks EUA and approval are the same.  Either way he's wrong.

miswrote
still not wrong...

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8310 on: September 17, 2021, 12:19:01 PM »
once again, you didn't even read the article you posted

The vote authorizing a booster for 65 and older was the panel's second decision of the afternoon, following a ruling against booster doses for Americans 16 and over. The second vote also approved emergency use authorization rather than a supplemental approval of the already fully-licensed vaccine.

I was wrong, thanks.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8311 on: September 17, 2021, 12:40:04 PM »
Holy smokes. I nearly fell off my damn chair.

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8312 on: September 17, 2021, 01:01:17 PM »
Holy smokes. I nearly fell off my damn chair.
Growth and process. There’s hope…

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8313 on: September 17, 2021, 01:09:18 PM »
Holy smokes. I nearly fell off my damn chair.

Must have started his Friday Happy Hour early....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8314 on: September 17, 2021, 01:11:15 PM »
That's unfortunate I was looking forward to my booster. Hope more studies come out. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8315 on: September 17, 2021, 01:13:31 PM »
That's unfortunate I was looking forward to my booster. Hope more studies come out.

Disappointment, and often anger, are the typical emotional responses when you trust the government.

Who could have predicted?   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8316 on: September 17, 2021, 03:29:12 PM »
Disappointment, and often anger, are the typical emotional responses when you trust the government.

Who could have predicted?   :geekdanc:

Not really,  Still Trust em.  They know best most of the time.   I've come to accept, no one even the government isn't perfect but like vegas its about your odds. 
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macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8317 on: September 17, 2021, 05:04:58 PM »
That's unfortunate I was looking forward to my booster. Hope more studies come out.

the fact is that the white house tried to blast it through with one WEAK study of phase one and a WEAKER phase 2/3
and then they tried to say like you do that the first shots are doing so well (?), that means a booster is safe and effective
but that's NOT how science works, bud
and they should have not unblinded the control group from the original studies and followed them rather than giving them the vaxx (ethically not really that kosher, but would have been scientifically correct) and compare them to the boosted people from the original study
OR make another double blinded trial with 60-70k people for each vaccine
becoz SCIENCE!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8318 on: September 17, 2021, 05:13:08 PM »
Not really,  Still Trust em.  They know best most of the time.   I've come to accept, no one even the government isn't perfect but like vegas its about your odds.
"...no one ... isn't perfect..."

Dripping with irony!   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8319 on: September 17, 2021, 06:18:54 PM »
"...no one ... isn't perfect..."

Dripping with irony!   :geekdanc:

I ain't perfect but atleast I'm closer than you  :shaka: :geekdanc: