WTH are you posting here for?  You got your wish .... Trump lost.

Didn't want either candidate to win. I am posting because like you now recently posted I want the GOP to win in Georgia. 

#1 thing we can do is donate to or volunteer for the Georgia Senate campaigns.  If those 2 seats go Blue, Biden will have both chambers of Congress to push the far Left agenda his handlers want to implement.  Paris Climate Accord, Economic agreements, gun control, ...  without a GOP majority in the Senate, we can't stop the insanity.  The Dems already know this and have given over $1M to their candidates for the special/run-off elections. 

https://www.loeffler.senate.gov/

https://perduesenate.com/

Looks like a type-81

I think you are correct.

So, are you saying that when the USA train comes off the rails and rolls over the edge of a cliff that everyone in the cars is going to instantly land on their feet?

Of course not.  Hence, that is why people, of like mind, should prepare, for that eventual collapse, societal wise.

Rights and freedom will spread across the land with minimal effort because humans are naturally wise and discerning?

No, probably not.  Selfish people are everywhere.  However, everyone needs to have realistic hope, as that is the foundation, of one's destiny.

Come on, buddy. You can barely hide your own thirst for revenge, never mind the countless other questionable motivations circulating in a group of over 300 million other people.

What my personal feelings, for the US empire, are irrelevant.  With any realistic faith, in the American experiment, summarily squashed, by SCOTUS, the final fall, of the US empire has begun.

I am one, of many Hawaiian nationals that plan accordingly, for any sudden geopolitical changes, which I suggest others should do, especially those living, on the CONUS, as well.

Of course not.  Hence, that is why people, of like mind, should prepare, for that eventual collapse, societal wise.


No, probably not.  Selfish people are everywhere.  However, everyone needs to have realistic hope, as that is the foundation, of one's destiny.


What my personal feelings, for the US empire, are irrelevant.  With any realistic faith, in the American experiment, summarily squashed, by SCOTUS, the final fall, of the US empire has begun.

I am one, of many Hawaiian nationals that plan accordingly, for any sudden geopolitical changes, which I suggest others should do, especially those living, on the CONUS, as well.

So what do you do to be prepared for sudden geopolitical changes? I’m not sure I what to do. Or if I am doing something but don’t realize it?

So what do you do to be prepared for sudden geopolitical changes? I’m not sure I what to do. Or if I am doing something but don’t realize it?

AZ is close enough. . .

AZ is close enough. . .

Especially where we live. We are no where near any military bases. So no one cares about us.

So what do you do to be prepared for sudden geopolitical changes? I’m not sure I what to do. Or if I am doing something but don’t realize it?

The sudden geopolitical changes I refer to is to that, of the fall, of the political authority, of Washington DC and that it has not happened yet.

In that instance, assuming that we already preppers and have the means, for our own immediate familial relations squared away.  I would start, by beginning to be discretely noisy and looking around to see, whether there already exists established or rumored groups that talk about life, in the aftermath, of a fall, of the US.  Staying away from racialized or organized crime related elements, I would begin my search there and see what I can find.  If none exists, within your immediate community, expand your search farther and see what you can find.  If you still can find nothing, then maybe, it may time to begin the discussion casually with trusted people around you and go from there.

Unlike the rest, of the CONUS, Texas and Hawaii always had elements that casually or fanatically believed, in the illegal annexation and legal restoration, of both nation states.  Hence, there have always been rational people and maybe whole communities that felt they were always independent.  This is very important, if the federal government, of the US, no longer functions, for whatever reason.  Such people are mentally prepared and perhaps even looking forward, to that geopolitical eventuality, and were ready, to do whatever it takes, to restore their respective sovereign nations.  In such cases, the restoration, to nation state status possessing societal normalcy will be relatively quicker.

It is that mental shock, of knowing your nation state does not exist, that will render most people incapacitated, in doing what they need to do, to restore order, in the communities around them.  It is this phenomenon, that hvybarrels speaks of that can lead to tremendous chaos and death.  However, as I pointed out, in the fall, of the Soviet Union example, it does not have be a totally bloody affair, if people can acquire the right mindset now.  Fortunately, for the nations that made-up the Soviet Union, they simply reverted back, into being the nations they were.  For the US empire, theoretically that should be the same case.  However, unlike Texas and Hawaii, and maybe the original 13 colonies, most other states do not have that kind of rich pre-US empire history. Being subjects, of the US empire, is all that they know.  With the exception, of those territories that belonged to Mexico and perhaps Alaska, which is literally always, on their own, the other former states will take a longer time, for the people there, to acquire the right kind of mindset quickly enough, to pick-up the pieces around them and think of themselves, as truly sovereign states.

#1 thing we can do is donate to or volunteer for the Georgia Senate campaigns.  If those 2 seats go Blue, Biden will have both chambers of Congress to push the far Left agenda his handlers want to implement.  Paris Climate Accord, Economic agreements, gun control, ...  without a GOP majority in the Senate, we can't stop the insanity.  The Dems already know this and have given over $1M to their candidates for the special/run-off elections. 

https://www.loeffler.senate.gov/

https://perduesenate.com/

Cheat in presesential election, cheat in senate as well. It works right?

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Staying away from racialized or organized crime related elements, I would begin my search there and see what I can find.  If none exists, within your immediate community, expand your search farther and see what you can find.  If you still can find nothing, then maybe, it may time to begin the discussion casually with trusted people around you and go from there.

Such people are mentally prepared and perhaps even looking forward, to that geopolitical eventuality, and were ready, to do whatever it takes, to restore their respective sovereign nations.  In such cases, the restoration, to nation state status possessing societal normalcy will be relatively quicker.

It is that mental shock, of knowing your nation state does not exist, that will render most people incapacitated, in doing what they need to do, to restore order, in the communities around them.  It is this phenomenon, that hvybarrels speaks of that can lead to tremendous chaos and death.  However, as I pointed out, in the fall, of the Soviet Union example, it does not have be a totally bloody affair, if people can acquire the right mindset now.

It is the organized crime elements that are best positioned to take over in a power vacuum. The people who are prepared and looking forward to that eventuality are the kind of people who will torture your kids in front of you if they think you have preps. The mental shock that the population experiences quickly turns to panic, which makes it easy for the criminal element to quickly take over territory. That is exactly what happened in the Soviet Union, and it caused a great amount of suffering until Putin came along and squashed all the competition. A whole lot of work went into the United States Constitution going back centuries and the people who take it for granted will miss it sorely when it is gone and their fantasy of a systemic reset turns out to be a nightmare.

The sudden geopolitical changes I refer to is to that, of the fall, of the political authority, of Washington DC and that it has not happened yet.

In that instance, assuming that we already preppers and have the means, for our own immediate familial relations squared away.  I would start, by beginning to be discretely noisy and looking around to see, whether there already exists established or rumored groups that talk about life, in the aftermath, of a fall, of the US.  Staying away from racialized or organized crime related elements, I would begin my search there and see what I can find.  If none exists, within your immediate community, expand your search farther and see what you can find.  If you still can find nothing, then maybe, it may time to begin the discussion casually with trusted people around you and go from there.

Unlike the rest, of the CONUS, Texas and Hawaii always had elements that casually or fanatically believed, in the illegal annexation and legal restoration, of both nation states.  Hence, there have always been rational people and maybe whole communities that felt they were always independent.  This is very important, if the federal government, of the US, no longer functions, for whatever reason.  Such people are mentally prepared and perhaps even looking forward, to that geopolitical eventuality, and were ready, to do whatever it takes, to restore their respective sovereign nations.  In such cases, the restoration, to nation state status possessing societal normalcy will be relatively quicker.

It is that mental shock, of knowing your nation state does not exist, that will render most people incapacitated, in doing what they need to do, to restore order, in the communities around them.  It is this phenomenon, that hvybarrels speaks of that can lead to tremendous chaos and death.  However, as I pointed out, in the fall, of the Soviet Union example, it does not have be a totally bloody affair, if people can acquire the right mindset now.  Fortunately, for the nations that made-up the Soviet Union, they simply reverted back, into being the nations they were.  For the US empire, theoretically that should be the same case.  However, unlike Texas and Hawaii, and maybe the original 13 colonies, most other states do not have that kind of rich pre-US empire history. Being subjects, of the US empire, is all that they know.  With the exception, of those territories that belonged to Mexico and perhaps Alaska, which is literally always, on their own, the other former states will take a longer time, for the people there, to acquire the right kind of mindset quickly enough, to pick-up the pieces around them and think of themselves, as truly sovereign states.

The biggest mistake most everyone makes is they prep for the next "war"
thinking it will be like the last one.  Whether that be national armies or
local county level unrest, or an election.  That is failure in the making.
Trying to manage that which is un-manageable is what
we need to learn to do. I was taught by the best to manage "risk"
in an endeavor. You always plan for success,
But your plan for failure is the most critical part of what whatever you do,
because failure is the normal state of things.
I like the idea of secession, but only if it is Large cities from the rest of us.
I don't want to live in a Hawaii ruled by Honolulu, I don't want to live in a country
ruled by NYC, LA, Atlanta, Chicago, Boston,  DC et at.  I do it now because
it is the best choice in a set of bad options.
Make your plans.  Failure has occurred.
I'm executing my Risk management plan.

Make your plans.  Failure has occurred.
I'm executing my Risk management plan.

This is a good point, and Kuleana had a good point as well about the necessity to hui up. The likelihood of systemic instability just went up significantly.

The sudden geopolitical changes I refer to is to that, of the fall, of the political authority, of Washington DC and that it has not happened yet.

In that instance, assuming that we already preppers and have the means, for our own immediate familial relations squared away.  I would start, by beginning to be discretely noisy and looking around to see, whether there already exists established or rumored groups that talk about life, in the aftermath, of a fall, of the US.  Staying away from racialized or organized crime related elements, I would begin my search there and see what I can find.  If none exists, within your immediate community, expand your search farther and see what you can find.  If you still can find nothing, then maybe, it may time to begin the discussion casually with trusted people around you and go from there.

Unlike the rest, of the CONUS, Texas and Hawaii always had elements that casually or fanatically believed, in the illegal annexation and legal restoration, of both nation states.  Hence, there have always been rational people and maybe whole communities that felt they were always independent.  This is very important, if the federal government, of the US, no longer functions, for whatever reason.  Such people are mentally prepared and perhaps even looking forward, to that geopolitical eventuality, and were ready, to do whatever it takes, to restore their respective sovereign nations.  In such cases, the restoration, to nation state status possessing societal normalcy will be relatively quicker.

It is that mental shock, of knowing your nation state does not exist, that will render most people incapacitated, in doing what they need to do, to restore order, in the communities around them.  It is this phenomenon, that hvybarrels speaks of that can lead to tremendous chaos and death.  However, as I pointed out, in the fall, of the Soviet Union example, it does not have be a totally bloody affair, if people can acquire the right mindset now.  Fortunately, for the nations that made-up the Soviet Union, they simply reverted back, into being the nations they were.  For the US empire, theoretically that should be the same case.  However, unlike Texas and Hawaii, and maybe the original 13 colonies, most other states do not have that kind of rich pre-US empire history. Being subjects, of the US empire, is all that they know.  With the exception, of those territories that belonged to Mexico and perhaps Alaska, which is literally always, on their own, the other former states will take a longer time, for the people there, to acquire the right kind of mindset quickly enough, to pick-up the pieces around them and think of themselves, as truly sovereign states.

IMO, you should have been building your "tribe" all along...

They just told 80 million heavily armed Americans that the rule of law is a sham and voting does not matter, and are celebrating like nothing bad could possibly come of this.

No, they said Texas doesn't have standing which is pretty obvious, it was a bad lawsuit to begin with. Standing is different than whether there are any valid arguments, standing just is whether the plaintiff  can bring suit. In this case, one state can't sue for another state's election process/outcome. Texas isn't a victim if some other state doesn't do a good job at their election. I believe Trump can refile in the appropriate court and try again though.

It is the organized crime elements that are best positioned to take over in a power vacuum. The people who are prepared and looking forward to that eventuality are the kind of people who will torture your kids in front of you if they think you have preps. The mental shock that the population experiences quickly turns to panic, which makes it easy for the criminal element to quickly take over territory. That is exactly what happened in the Soviet Union, and it caused a great amount of suffering until Putin came along and squashed all the competition. A whole lot of work went into the United States Constitution going back centuries and the people who take it for granted will miss it sorely when it is gone and their fantasy of a systemic reset turns out to be a nightmare.

Exactly my point.  The people, of the Soviet Union, knew things were not going well towards the beginning, of the 1990s, but no one there, ever thought, especially, with their military might and nuclear weapons, that it could all end, in a whisper.

Had they been mentally prepared and have taken decisive organizational action, for that possibility, they might have been spared the domestic turmoil, when organized crime elements, international cabalists, as well as US imperial agents went in, to further destabilize and carve fiefdoms, for themselves. 

Now, with the US empire, on its final tour, it is important, for all subjects, to begin mentally preparing individually, as a family, community, and so on, to the reality that their nation might cease to exist and have capable people in-place, to ensure the continuality, of societal normalcy, under a potentially new sovereign body politic.  As long, as the people, of the US, mentally hang on, to the republic that no longer exists, they will not be able, to take those decisive organizational actions, if and when the empire crumbles, to prevent those criminal elements, from solidifying their control to power and territory.

IMO, you should have been building your "tribe" all along...

Who said I haven't...

Who said I haven't...

 

No, they said Texas doesn't have standing which is pretty obvious, it was a bad lawsuit to begin with. Standing is different than whether there are any valid arguments, standing just is whether the plaintiff  can bring suit. In this case, one state can't sue for another state's election process/outcome. Texas isn't a victim if some other state doesn't do a good job at their election. I believe Trump can refile in the appropriate court and try again though.

If one state cheats like crazy and it changes the outcome of a Federal Election, then what is the point in holding Federal Elections? A handful of corrupt states getting to decide the highest office in the land is the very definition of disenfranchisement.

If one state cheats like crazy and it changes the outcome of a Federal Election, then what is the point in holding Federal Elections? A handful of corrupt states getting to decide the highest office in the land is the very definition of disenfranchisement.

There in lies the conundrum.

States Rights or Federal Control ?
We’ve seen what an abuse of States Rights can do.
But do we want Federal Control?

I don’t want to duplicate my post.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38726.msg354622#msg354622

I don’t want to duplicate my post.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38726.msg354622#msg354622

This is how cross-posting is avoided.

Good job!