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changemyoil66

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2021, 06:21:41 PM »
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Brystont1

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2021, 06:34:20 PM »
Remember the next time a pro-choice advocate says we need to “fight” for reproductive rights they are inciting violence.
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aieahound

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2021, 08:24:50 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on January 13, 2021, 06:21:41 PM
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Dayum !

Double dotted.  :( ( :rofl:)

Did I just get hit with Cancel Culture for a thought provoking question ?   8)

Was storming the Capitol the Boston Tea Party of our time ?
And is insurrection always bad when it is non-violent and all legal avenues have been exhausted?  (Although the videos coming out are pretty violent in the initial storming.)
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omnigun

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2021, 08:29:28 PM »
Quote from: Brystont1 on January 13, 2021, 06:34:20 PM
Remember the next time a pro-choice advocate says we need to “fight” for reproductive rights they are inciting violence.

Context is pretty important. 

If for months they lied that doctors were forcefully aborting poor innocent blobs out of women got a huge angry crowd and then said for everyone to go to a nearby hospital where it's "occuring".  And to "fight". And the crowd riots in the hospital.   Then yes, that's insighting violence


Reminds me of "pizza gate".  Where qanon lied for months.  Got everyone all angry. Then one day some idiot showed up to the place armed. 
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eyeeatingfish

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2021, 08:35:31 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on January 13, 2021, 09:17:53 AM
I look at it this way, a lot more would have been done for our nation if the DNC didn't fight him kicking and screaming at everything he wants to do.  How much time and effort was wasted on many things that could have been redirected toward the betterment of our nation?

The same could be said about Obama as well though. My point here is that both sides are guilty of this type of thing, neither has their hands clean here.

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I think the left/DNC is the reason for all of this.  Trump is the only one with the balls to call them out and not give in to their BS.  I bet anyone else would have caved and played ball with the left to avoid all the attacks and BS.  To me that makes him a great leader.  Just my 2 cents.

The left has been building the fire slowly over time but Trump poured gas on it. I consider neither side innocent.
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changemyoil66

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2021, 08:42:38 PM »
Quote from: aieahound on January 13, 2021, 08:24:50 PM
Dayum !

Double dotted.  :( ( :rofl:)

Did I just get hit with Cancel Culture for a thought provoking question ?   8)

Was storming the Capitol the Boston Tea Party of our time ?
And is insurrection always bad when it is non-violent and all legal avenues have been exhausted?  (Although the videos coming out are pretty violent in the initial storming.)
Those arent meant for u.

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changemyoil66

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2021, 08:43:46 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on January 13, 2021, 08:35:31 PM
The same could be said about Obama as well though. My point here is that both sides are guilty of this type of thing, neither has their hands clean here.

The left has been building the fire slowly over time but Trump poured gas on it. I consider neither side innocent.
Trump got it far worst than barry. At least the fake news had his back to cover for him.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2021, 08:44:00 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on January 13, 2021, 01:37:31 PM
He got more votes than any standing president ever, so a lot of people disagree with that statement. The reasons he is not legally culpable is that you cannot charge people for crimes that happen in your own imagination.

The reason that he cannot be legally culpable is because he didn't specifically call for violence. Trump is either smart enough or lucky enough to make his comments vague enough that they wouldn't amount to a criminal act.

However not everyone who voted for Trump necessarily defends his actions and statements leading up to the riot, but you are correct, I am sure many Trump supporters would disagree with my moral assessment.
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aieahound

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2021, 08:44:45 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on January 13, 2021, 08:42:38 PM
Those arent meant for u.

My Bad CMO.
It just immediately followed so the assumption was made...  :shaka:

And Trump is not culpable.
No more than all the talking heads who said that the riots in the cities were justifiable. And there were quite a few of them.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2021, 08:47:00 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on January 13, 2021, 08:43:46 PM
Trump got it far worst than barry. At least the fake news had his back to cover for him.

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Trump got it harder from the news, I would agree with this but the right leaning media still did similar things to Obama. Both sides are guilty. Steal $1,000 and it is worse than stealing $900 but both have wronged.
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drck1000

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2021, 09:09:08 PM »
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ren

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2021, 09:14:03 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on January 13, 2021, 09:09:08 PM


I can't believe where this country is headed. Maybe I'm naive. But those people are crazy.
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drck1000

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2021, 09:18:14 PM »
Quote from: ren on January 13, 2021, 09:14:03 PM
I can't believe where this country is headed. Maybe I'm naive. But those people are crazy.
You forgot “bat shit” in there...
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changemyoil66

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2021, 10:22:57 PM »
Quote from: aieahound on January 13, 2021, 08:44:45 PM
My Bad CMO.
It just immediately followed so the assumption was made...  :shaka:

And Trump is not culpable.
No more than all the talking heads who said that the riots in the cities were justifiable. And there were quite a few of them.
My fault, had no focus and didnt see ur post.

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changemyoil66

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2021, 10:24:51 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on January 13, 2021, 08:47:00 PM
Trump got it harder from the news, I would agree with this but the right leaning media still did similar things to Obama. Both sides are guilty. Steal $1,000 and it is worse than stealing $900 but both have wronged.
Not even close what the fake news did to trump for over 4 years compared to the worst any media did to barry or any other president. The fake news even treated Jodie Arias better. Probably let her baby sit too.

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omnigun

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2021, 10:27:48 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-reaction-to-trump-second-impeachment

Tucker made some good points.  Republicans might have messed up a bit.
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Brystont1

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2021, 10:28:00 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on January 13, 2021, 08:44:00 PM
The reason that he cannot be legally culpable is because he didn't specifically call for violence. Trump is either smart enough or lucky enough to make his comments vague enough that they wouldn't amount to a criminal act.

However not everyone who voted for Trump necessarily defends his actions and statements leading up to the riot, but you are correct, I am sure many Trump supporters would disagree with my moral assessment.

Not to mention he literally said “I know you will be marching to the capitol peacefully and patriotically to make your voices heard.”
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omnigun

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2021, 10:33:39 PM »
Quote from: Brystont1 on January 13, 2021, 10:28:00 PM
Not to mention he literally said “I know you will be marching to the capitol peacefully and patriotically to make your voices heard.”

*edit guess he did
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Brystont1

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2021, 10:34:46 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on January 13, 2021, 10:33:39 PM
Proof?  Never saw that quote.

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omnigun

Re: How do you feel about the violence at the capitol?
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2021, 10:36:06 PM »
Quote from: Brystont1 on January 13, 2021, 10:34:46 PM
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I stand corrected, guess he did. 

Not sure if one line of his whole speech automatically amolishs everything else he said though
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