SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21 (Read 21645 times)

6716J

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2021, 02:07:46 PM »
Nobody ever overthrew a government with a handgun
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2021, 02:37:44 PM »
Nobody ever overthrew a government with a handgun

John Wilkes Booth was unavailable for comment.

Used a .41 caliber Deringer -- single shot.




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Bota-CS1

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2021, 09:05:11 PM »
You never know who might have one of those dreaded A-Salt rifles.




Wow, I can't remember the last time I saw a Calico IRL.  It's gotta be back in the late 80's before the mag ban here.  I'm not sure why she shot an obvious No-Shoot.  He's wearing a Berkley hat so he's gotta be a liberal, probably majored in women's liberation literature.  Maybe she shot him for thinking he looked good in those boy-band sideburns and chin scruff.

No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

hvybarrels

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2021, 11:53:26 PM »
Have to train hard to keep up with those evil College kids trying to get out of their student debt
Is an armadillo just a tactical opossum?

robtmc

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2021, 09:04:09 AM »
Looks like they rescheduled the hearing for Wednesday 2/17
Going to check if I can submit testimony again.

6716J

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #65 on: February 15, 2021, 09:11:48 AM »
Looks like they rescheduled the hearing for Wednesday 2/17
Going to check if I can submit testimony again.

No testimony allowed but I just wrote every single Rep and Sen

Letter du jour

Aloha e Senators and Representatives

Mahalo Senators Gabbard and Fevella for standing up for the Constitutional rights of the people of Hawaii. Nothing is more sacrosanct in our lives than the right to think and say what we want, regardless of others opinions; and the right to defend ourselves in the manner in which we, the people, decide. There was a very specific reason the founders of our country put those two Amendments to the Constitution at the very beginning. 

When others decide to silence views or not listen to what the citizenry have to have to say, that is nothing more than a disservice to the very populace which put our representatives in their respective positions. It was shown on February 12th during the Committee hearing on SB301 that there was a huge opposition to the bill and yet the bill was deferred. Well over 1100 pieces of testimony were given and of the testimony given, only 16 were in support of the bill, and the remainder being in opposition to the bill. As such, the bill should have been defeated and never seen again. But the bill was deferred to February 17th and no testimony will be allowed. There is also no committee report for the public to review the voting record of the bill or if any amendments or changes to the bill are occurring. This is completely contrary with Hawaii’s Sunshine Law, the irony of which is not lost as the deferred hearing for SB1034-RELATING TO SUNSHINE LAW BOARDS is being held just prior to the SB301 hearing.

So again, I will implore you, the committee members to listen to your constituents and kill SB301 during the hearing. It is poorly written, vague in its descriptions and will do nothing more than make criminals out of the law-abiding people of Hawaii. It also does nothing to address the financial impact to the State on how the State will purport to purchase all of the  now "illegal" firearms back from the people, which they legally procured and own. That cost alone will run into the millions of dollars. I will also ask all other Senators and Representatives to stand up for the rights of the people of Hawaii and implore the committee to defeat and kill this bill.

Mahalo nui loa

Me

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Mike Gabbard response

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Mahalo for your email. I’ll continue to vote in support of the Second Amendment this session.

 

Me ke aloha pumehana,

 



Senator Mike Gabbard

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

changemyoil66

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2021, 10:23:00 AM »
UPDATE

Bill passed but it removed semi auto rifles.  It is now just a rifle mag ban of  >10rds.

Favella, Gabbard, and Acasio voted no.
Mercado-Kim votes with reservations which is super surprising and a W for us
Lee, Rhodes and K votes yes (we knew this)

Bill has no grandfather clause for rifle mags.  There are 2 pending mag lawsuits, 1 in the 9th circuit and 1 locally by a HIFICO director.  So possible to put a stay if the bill passes into law.

jd0210

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2021, 10:27:27 AM »
whats a vote with reservations mean?

zippz

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2021, 10:30:21 AM »
whats a vote with reservations mean?

I want to vote no but the party wants me to vote yes.

drck1000

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #69 on: February 17, 2021, 10:33:27 AM »
UPDATE

Bill passed but it removed semi auto rifles.  It is now just a rifle mag ban of  >10rds.

Favella, Gabbard, and Acasio voted no.
Mercado-Kim votes with reservations which is super surprising and a W for us
Lee, Rhodes and K votes yes (we knew this)

Bill has no grandfather clause for rifle mags.  There are 2 pending mag lawsuits, 1 in the 9th circuit and 1 locally by a HIFICO director.  So possible to put a stay if the bill passes into law.
Thanks for the update.  My take on the above is that the divide is as close to 50/50 as I've seen things.  Need to get six-head Rhodes out. 

robtmc

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #70 on: February 17, 2021, 11:18:55 AM »
Good thing so many of us just have boxes with sheet metal parts, springs and such rolling around.

changemyoil66

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #71 on: February 17, 2021, 11:37:57 AM »
Thanks for the update.  My take on the above is that the divide is as close to 50/50 as I've seen things.  Need to get six-head Rhodes out.

Someone did run against him this past November and lost bad. And Rhodes won't give up his JUD seat either. He has the sole power to see what bills get a hearing or not. TBH, that's more power than the governor who just signs the bills at the end of the process.  So no way he will give up that committee, especially when he sites Giffords stuff in his bills. They want to keep him there.

6716J

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2021, 11:47:28 AM »
So when does the amended version come out? Along with the voting status
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

changemyoil66

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2021, 11:55:41 AM »
So when does the amended version come out? Along with the voting status

Lee, K, and Rhodes yes
Kim with reservations
Acasio, Favella, Gabbard No

drck1000

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2021, 12:32:26 PM »
Someone did run against him this past November and lost bad. And Rhodes won't give up his JUD seat either. He has the sole power to see what bills get a hearing or not. TBH, that's more power than the governor who just signs the bills at the end of the process.  So no way he will give up that committee, especially when he sites Giffords stuff in his bills. They want to keep him there.
I looked up his past election (prior to 2020) and I thought I recall it being close.  Or maybe I'm thinking about that lady from Maui.  Ms. "I'm gonna interrupt you rudely and correct you that it's NEIGHBOR islands". 

I hope someone finds dirt on that guy. 

changemyoil66

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #75 on: February 17, 2021, 12:52:22 PM »
I looked up his past election (prior to 2020) and I thought I recall it being close.  Or maybe I'm thinking about that lady from Maui.  Ms. "I'm gonna interrupt you rudely and correct you that it's NEIGHBOR islands". 

I hope someone finds dirt on that guy.

That was Roz Baker.  IIRC she also corrected that the AG is a she when someone said he.

Rhodes wife works for Ige in a top position.  There was some skeetch stuff years ago about the wife.  But didn't matter cause he won anyways.  So I'm pretty sure Rhodes is not going anywhere, well unless a DC seat opens up.  Wouldn't make sense for him to be governor or mayor.  Cant switch to house side cause then he loses his JUD committee chair power.

ren

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #76 on: February 17, 2021, 01:08:18 PM »
There is dirt on Rhoads. Is there a candidate that has the will power and stomach for it? Look what he did to David Chang. Lots of conservative Chinese in his district. Can't believe they all voted for this 5 head gwailo.
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drck1000

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #77 on: February 17, 2021, 01:14:13 PM »
That was Roz Baker.  IIRC she also corrected that the AG is a she when someone said he.

Rhodes wife works for Ige in a top position.  There was some skeetch stuff years ago about the wife.  But didn't matter cause he won anyways.  So I'm pretty sure Rhodes is not going anywhere, well unless a DC seat opens up.  Wouldn't make sense for him to be governor or mayor.  Cant switch to house side cause then he loses his JUD committee chair power.
Ya.  That's her.  She openly shows disdain for the people she's supposed to SERVE.

There is dirt on Rhoads. Is there a candidate that has the will power and stomach for it? Look what he did to David Chang. Lots of conservative Chinese in his district. Can't believe they all voted for this 5 head gwailo.
It shrank.  It used to be a 6 head.   :P

Bota-CS1

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #78 on: February 17, 2021, 03:31:55 PM »
Odds on killing this bill when it crosses over?
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

zippz

Re: SB301 Assault Weapon/Mag Ban Hearing 2-12-21
« Reply #79 on: February 17, 2021, 03:44:52 PM »
Odds on killing this bill when it crosses over?

50/50% with grandfathering.  It barely lost last year and we had a few seats flip more anti-gun since then.  On the plus side we have a few weeks to prepare and Duncan v Becerra won in the 9th last year, though the appeal is stayed right now.