don't worry, the fed and the central banks will keep it under control (Read 11024 times)

Glasser

Force everyone including myself to find alternatives. 

You just made a great case for Mods to ban you from the board, congrats on the self own.

omnigun

 
You just made a great case for Mods to ban you from the board, congrats on the self own.

 :wacko: :wtf: ???

What?

How is advocating for environmental polices against forum rules?

FYI from your "edit" many things are "forced".   Like taxes.  :crazy:  Laws too.  All "forceful" mandates. Even "forced" usage of masks  :rofl:  Would have to ban the entire forum with your logic.


Congrats on the ignorance self own.
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changemyoil66

Force everyone including myself to find alternatives.  Good in my book. Like you said, there are many variables.  Make gas more, so alternatives are cheaper.   Progress ain't free.  The environment has prices too.  Look at recent storms costing people BILLIONS.

Glasser


 :wacko: :wtf: ???

What?

How is advocating for environmental polices against forum rules?

'People in charge should take away choices from people to force them to behave the way the leadership desires.'  Chairman Mao and Biden would be proud of your Comradeship.

omnigun

'People in charge should take away choices from people to force them to behave the way the leadership desires.'  Chairman Mao and Biden would be proud of your Comradeship.

Are you an anarchist?  If you haven't seen my edit, you should be aware that ALL laws are designed to take away choices from people and to force them to behave the way the leadership desires.

Forcing people to drive a certain speed, not kill each other,  pay taxes,  not limit speech, ages for drinking and gun ownership and millions more. 

macsak

Good make everything more expensive so we are forced to abandon fossil fuels quicker.

it's an omnigun world and we're all just livin' in it...

changemyoil66

it's an omnigun world and we're all just livin' in it...

I think I caught the omni flu. Ordered an EV...

QUIETShooter

Are you an anarchist?  If you haven't seen my edit, you should be aware that ALL laws are designed to take away choices from people and to force them to behave the way the leadership desires.

"the way the leadership desires?" 

Sounds communist to me.  Something a dictator would say.

I always believed the laws of this nation were conceived by, for, and of the people.  The leaders of our nation are supposedly public servants.

Supposedly......seems like some government officials forgot or didn't get the memo.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

I think I caught the omni flu. Ordered an EV...

you would have to get diarrhea and lose 40-50 lbs to get to his size from the omni flu...

Flapp_Jackson

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Also to be eco friendly, the seats are not leather, but pleather (fake leather).

My condo has a EV charging station that cost about $2 for 25 miles.  So about half the cost of gas.

Exactly.  So, if you got FREE electricity to recharge your car, my example requires a 6.9 year break-even period.

Tack onto that another $2/25 mi cost (your example), and you get:

12K mi per yr / 25 mi per $2 = 480 charges per year

480 charges per year * $2 = $960/yr

So, now you have  to save another $960/yr to break even above the $10,000 premium you paid for the EV.  By the time you hit the break-even for the $10K at 6.9 years, you'll have paid another $6,762 to operate your EV. 

Looking at it another way, if we subtract the $2 you pay for charging from the $3 in gas you save (both dollar amounts are for 25 miles, so that's convenient), you are really only saving $1 per 25mi.  Plugging that into my earlier calculations:

That's now 10,000 gallons of gas you can buy at $1/gal, and you can drive 25mi * 10K gal = 250,000 miles, or 3 times the original distance calculated.  Divide that by 12Kmi/year, and ...

at $1/gal (gas price less what I would pay for EV charging) and 12K mi/yr driving, it would take me 20.83 years of driving an EV to break even compared to driving the gas car.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Are you an anarchist?  If you haven't seen my edit, you should be aware that ALL laws are designed to take away choices from people and to force them to behave the way the leadership desires.



Not "all" laws. There is a law that allows a woman to be topless in public. That's giving the choice, not taking it away.

Flapp_Jackson

Force everyone including myself to find alternatives.  Good in my book. Like you said, there are many variables.  Make gas more, so alternatives are cheaper.   Progress ain't free.  The environment has prices too.  Look at recent storms costing people BILLIONS.

"Forced behavior" is the new "Freedom."

So says the mask mandate Nazi.

There's no scientific evidence that MANMADE emissions CAUSED ANY weather events.  Pure hype.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Good make everything more expensive so we are forced to abandon fossil fuels quicker.

I find it appalling that you hate poor people and the middle class who are already struggling to get by.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

"the way the leadership desires?" 

Sounds communist to me.  Something a dictator would say.

I always believed the laws of this nation were conceived by, for, and of the people.  The leaders of our nation are supposedly public servants.

Supposedly......seems like some government officials forgot or didn't get the memo.

The people elect the leadership so the leadership should reflect the peoples desires.   Doesn't work that way in commieland. But here in America it does.

omnigun

Not "all" laws. There is a law that allows a woman to be topless in public. That's giving the choice, not taking it away.

Still telling someone how to dress and what level.  Is still limiting a choice even if guised as giving a choice.

omnigun

"Forced behavior" is the new "Freedom."

So says the mask mandate Nazi.

There's no scientific evidence that MANMADE emissions CAUSED ANY weather events.  Pure hype.

There is evidence of warming, rising co2 and other greenhouse gas levels all coincidence with humans industrial complex?  We know heat causes stronger storms...just like covid,  the environment is a national security risk. 

Flapp_Jackson

There is evidence of warming, rising co2 and other greenhouse gas levels all coincidence with humans industrial complex?  We know heat causes stronger storms...just like covid,  the environment is a national security risk.

As usual, you skipped right over the term

MANMADE

because there is no evidence that MAN is causing the changes you described again and again.

So, you keep arguing about something I never said.  Get back to us when you learn to read for comprehension and not just post talking points.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

There is evidence of warming, rising co2 and other greenhouse gas levels all coincidence with humans industrial complex?  We know heat causes stronger storms...just like covid,  the environment is a national security risk.

is that English?

funny how your "proof" ignores the whole coincidence/causation thing
but hey, it's how you feel, so that has merit...

Flapp_Jackson

is that English?

funny how your "proof" ignores the whole coincidence/causation thing
but hey, it's how you feel, so that has merit...

Wonder what caused the rise in CO2 gases thousands of years before the existence of man?

Oh, wait ... that requires acknowledgment of factors that have nothing at all to do with man.  The cult frowns upon theories that contradict their dogma.

Those damned Dinosaurs and their factories!  They deserved to become extinct -- just like humans do now!   :crazy:

The Last Time CO2 Was This High, Humans Didn’t Exist

https://www.climatecentral.org/news/the-last-time-co2-was-this-high-humans-didnt-exist-15938
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Fun Fact - California Laws preventing standard forestry maintenance to 'protect wildlife' end up creating uncontrolled wildfires that pump massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere, more than all of the cars in the state.

"fires emitted an estimated 79.6 million metric tons of carbon dioxide in California this year through September 14.  These Carbon emissions contribute to long-term heating of the planet, particulate-matter pollution can cause health problems both in the short and long term. Smoke from California’s wildfires is affecting air quality thousands of kilometers away, with Copernicus satellites showing the smog spreading across the U.S. and parts of Canada."

"California cars emit 76.4 million tons (not metric) of carbon dioxide annually"

You cant have it both ways Green Communists.