withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea? (Read 142339 times)

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2021, 10:12:30 AM »
Erik Prince wants to privatize the US military. He runs the modern equivalent of the Praetorian Guard, and would probably stage a military coup on our government the first chance he gets.

He does not want out of Afghanistan. He wants to stay there and have his overpriced corporate mercenaries massacre the citizens forever.

The withdrawal looks more like another attempt at Pottery Barn Rules that Powell warned about.

Create a disaster that we have to go back and "fix"

Interesting documentary about private armies / mercenary companies. most of them fail upwards and still get work no matter how poorly they perform at their job.




Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2021, 12:51:13 PM »
Well next they will be flying 747s and we know how that ends.

Taliban Seen Flying Captured Military Helicopters Over Afghanistan


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-seen-flying-captured-military-helicopters-over-afghanistan

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2021, 02:06:34 PM »
You have to ask yourself exactly how stupid our Politicians are who OKd this mess.

Mitch McConnell calls for airstrikes against Taliban: ‘It is not too late’


https://nypost.com/2021/08/14/mitch-mcconnell-calls-for-airstrikes-against-taliban/


They are this stupid.... from 2 weeks ago.





Yeah it is too late Mitch.

hvybarrels

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2021, 02:50:53 PM »
You have to ask yourself exactly how stupid our Politicians are who OKd this mess.

Going by the evidence it is fair to say they are probably just as stupid as they think we are.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2021, 04:48:56 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1426717317107421186

The Biden administration wants to ban your ability to own semi-automatic rifles at the same time they just gave the Taliban fully automatic rifles.

Let that sink in for a moment if you think these people are not your enemies.

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2021, 05:31:30 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-blames-trump-talibans-rapid-gains-afghanistan-trump-responds-failure-weakness/

He sound like our Village Idiot, not my fault. He had 8 months to figure this out, but ate ice cream and shower with dogs instead.

Biden Blames Trump For Taliban’s Rapid Gains in Afghanistan – Trump Responds: ‘Failure Through Weakness’


“I inherited a deal cut by my predecessor — which he invited the Taliban to discuss at Camp David on the eve of 9/11 of 2019 — that left the Taliban in the strongest position militarily since 2001 and imposed a May 1, 2021 deadline on US forces,” Mr. Biden said. “Shortly before he left office, he also drew US forces down to a bare minimum of 2,500.”

“Therefore, when I became President, I faced a choice — follow through on the deal, with a brief extension to get our forces and our allies’ forces out safely, or ramp up our presence and send more American troops to fight once again in another country’s civil conflict,” Biden added. “One more year, or five more years, of U.S. military presence would not have made a difference if the Afghan military cannot or will not hold its own country. And an endless American presence in the middle of another country’s civil conflict was not acceptable to me.”



Trump blasted Joe Biden for abruptly running out of Afghanistan.

“What a disgrace it will be when the Taliban raises their flag over America’s Embassy in Kabul,” Trump said. “This is complete failure through weakness, incompetence, and total strategic incoherence.”








Flapp_Jackson

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2021, 07:32:55 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-blames-trump-talibans-rapid-gains-afghanistan-trump-responds-failure-weakness/

He sound like our Village Idiot, not my fault. He had 8 months to figure this out, but ate ice cream and shower with dogs instead.

Biden Blames Trump For Taliban’s Rapid Gains in Afghanistan – Trump Responds: ‘Failure Through Weakness’


“I inherited a deal cut by my predecessor — which he invited the Taliban to discuss at Camp David on the eve of 9/11 of 2019 — that left the Taliban in the strongest position militarily since 2001 and imposed a May 1, 2021 deadline on US forces,” Mr. Biden said. “Shortly before he left office, he also drew US forces down to a bare minimum of 2,500.”

“Therefore, when I became President, I faced a choice — follow through on the deal, with a brief extension to get our forces and our allies’ forces out safely, or ramp up our presence and send more American troops to fight once again in another country’s civil conflict,” Biden added. “One more year, or five more years, of U.S. military presence would not have made a difference if the Afghan military cannot or will not hold its own country. And an endless American presence in the middle of another country’s civil conflict was not acceptable to me.”



Trump blasted Joe Biden for abruptly running out of Afghanistan. 

“What a disgrace it will be when the Taliban raises their flag over America’s Embassy in Kabul,” Trump said. “This is complete failure through weakness, incompetence, and total strategic incoherence.”


Biden completely left out the fact that military commanders lied to Trump about remaining troop strengths in Syria.  How do we know they haven't done the same for other regions?

At this point, I don't trust anything that's reported from our government.

As for what Biden said, I don't think we can believe anything he publicly states.  Anything he says is to be taken in the context of a mentally incompetent liar.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2021, 07:40:22 PM »
Considering that Biden is Jimmy Carter 2.0, I wouldnt be surprised if the US Embassy get over run and the State Dept employees end up being taken hostage. last word I heard is there are 10K Americans still in country and the Taliban is literally 30 mins away. Taliban leaders already warned Biden that if there are air strikes they will rush the capitol with 10,000 troops.

Sure sounds a lot like Trumps fault.

changemyoil66

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2021, 07:56:33 PM »
Considering that Biden is Jimmy Carter 2.0, I wouldnt be surprised if the US Embassy get over run and the State Dept employees end up being taken hostage. last word I heard is there are 10K Americans still in country and the Taliban is literally 30 mins away. Taliban leaders already warned Biden that if there are air strikes they will rush the capitol with 10,000 troops.

Sure sounds a lot like Trumps fault.
So was samuel jackson sent in yet. "Waste the mother f-ckers".



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omnigun

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2021, 09:33:46 PM »
Considering that Biden is Jimmy Carter 2.0, I wouldnt be surprised if the US Embassy get over run and the State Dept employees end up being taken hostage. last word I heard is there are 10K Americans still in country and the Taliban is literally 30 mins away. Taliban leaders already warned Biden that if there are air strikes they will rush the capitol with 10,000 troops.

Sure sounds a lot like Trumps fault.

Taliban is bluffing,  I'd say bomb the living fuck out of them back to the stone ages.  We have troops in the area to defend against them.  Not like the Taliban can defeat us. 

changemyoil66

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2021, 10:22:26 PM »
GW should have hired omni and put him in charge of how to defeat the Taliban. War would be over in a few hours.

Then promote how to stop the mythical global warming.

Once thats solved, promotion to run economics.

Then fire Fauci and replace with Omni.

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macsak

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2021, 10:46:23 PM »
Taliban is bluffing,  I'd say bomb the living fuck out of them back to the stone ages.  We have troops in the area to defend against them.  Not like the Taliban can defeat us.

your level of tactical knowledge approaches that of general leroy jenkins...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2021, 10:57:35 PM »
your level of tactical knowledge approaches that of general leroy jenkins...



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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2021, 11:11:40 PM »
Considering Biden didnt even have enough transport aircraft staged in the region to evac all the people the US abandon there, why would our village idiot think Sleepy Joe thought put any effort into to having bombers close by enough to matter?  He is only sending in 1000 more troops from the 82ND AB. This is being managed about as well as Benghazi.

drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2021, 01:15:03 AM »
your level of tactical knowledge approaches that of general leroy jenkins...
Whuddya mean? He obviously is Omni-knowing. Eh, he obviously got 4.0 in his war college classes. Prob doesn’t even know what the word deterrence means… without Google…

hvybarrels

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2021, 01:34:30 AM »
The eugenicist wants to massacre civilians in cold blood for no reason. Color me surprised.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

ren

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2021, 07:39:19 AM »
Whuddya mean? He obviously is Omni-knowing. Eh, he obviously got 4.0 in his war college classes. Prob doesn’t even know what the word deterrence means… without Google…

War College. So you're saying he's got a chance at O6? :o :(  and without even enlisting...Selective Service....
Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2021, 08:11:24 AM »
President of a-stan is screwed. Another Biden accomplishment?

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Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2021, 08:44:45 AM »
The Taliban is now declaring they are a Caliphate, David Petraeus says Biden 100% owns this mess, General Milley tells Congress that terrorism in the US will rise because of this, Sec of State Blinken says Afghanistan was a success because we killed Bin Laden and everyone running for their lives is SOP. 'Not at all like Saigon'.







Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2021, 08:55:02 AM »
Biden completely left out the fact that military commanders lied to Trump about remaining troop strengths in Syria.  How do we know they haven't done the same for other regions?

At this point, I don't trust anything that's reported from our government.

As for what Biden said, I don't think we can believe anything he publicly states.  Anything he says is to be taken in the context of a mentally incompetent liar.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1426924717588586497


The entire Afghanistan Papers project started when General Michael Flynn filed an IG report that the Pentagon was lying about the war

And now you know the rest of the story



https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/documents-database/