withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea? (Read 153762 times)

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #340 on: August 22, 2021, 12:22:30 PM »
He wont answer the question, he dodges it twice.

Chris Wallace to Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Afghanistan: "Does the president not know what's going on?"

Blinken: "This is an incredibly emotional time for many of us."


https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1429464964448747529


Blinken is no rocket surgeon either, he was on Face the Nation this morning and said he talked called the President of Afghanistan before the withdrawal and got promises that the Afghan Army would fight to the death before they let the Taliban take over. The President he said he talked to was Hamid Karzai - who hasnt had that job for more than 7 yrs.

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #341 on: August 22, 2021, 12:29:47 PM »
Can you get a screen shot? I do not use CIAbook

here I found it on YT.


https://youtu.be/2J5MuW1_kkk?t=569

Flapp_Jackson

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #342 on: August 22, 2021, 12:30:04 PM »
Vid of Bidens speech, he is saying that what is happening in Afghanistan right now was completely unavoidable and they knew it was going to be this big a mess. He is trying to sell everyone on the idea that is 'what always happens'.


Biden: There is no way to evacuate this many people without the pain and loss of the heartbreaking images you see on television.

Taking a page from his mentor's playbook when Obama said there's no way manufacturing jobs were coming back to the US -- "What magic wand do you have?"

Just because these people say it's out of their control, don't believe them.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #343 on: August 22, 2021, 07:44:00 PM »

hvybarrels

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #344 on: August 22, 2021, 07:58:20 PM »
I would love to have a long range rifle but I do not have access to anywhere to shoot it. Maybe they don't let the unwashed masses do this on purpose?
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

groveler

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #345 on: August 23, 2021, 05:54:04 AM »
I would love to have a long range rifle but I do not have access to anywhere to shoot it. Maybe they don't let the unwashed masses do this on purpose?
Go to Idaho.
I routinely shot Rock Chucks at 400 meters
with a cheapie Ruger M77 .223.
Without practice.
That is I got out of my office drove to Idaho, drank lots of
beer with my cousin,
and made 400 meter kills on a rodent the size of a cat.
 :wacko:

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #346 on: August 23, 2021, 07:25:14 AM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9918639/Taliban-hits-Biden-warns-August-31-provoke-reaction.html

'There will be consequences': Taliban hits back at Biden and warns US to get out by August 31 or 'provoke a reaction' after President said American forces could stay beyond withdrawal deadline to complete evacuation

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #347 on: August 23, 2021, 07:51:58 AM »
Kabul airport is now taking sniper rounds, and is being set on fire.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/gun-battle-breaks-kabul-airport-comes-sniper-fire-one-afghan-soldier-dead/

Gun Battle Breaks Out in Kabul After Airport Comes Under Sniper Fire — One Afghan Soldier Dead

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1429810333254885378


Fire erupts at #Kabul airport in Afghanistan.




And terrorists are trying to board those evac planes.

People on UK's terror 'no fly list' have ALREADY tried to board military planes in Kabul


https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1429821981634015235

hvybarrels

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #348 on: August 23, 2021, 08:12:12 AM »
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #349 on: August 23, 2021, 08:15:36 AM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/08/23/hawaiian-airlines-deploy-aircrafts-help-with-evacuation-efforts-afghanistan/

How many end up here? Did anyone bother to do background checks?
Interesting.  When I saw this news break over the weekend, I swore the article mentioned evacuating US Citizens stranded there. 

But this article says different:

Quote
“We are proud to join the U.S. Department of Defense and our fellow air carriers in the humanitarian effort to bring to the United States our citizens and the Afghanis who supported them,”

Will be interesting in any case.  That said, I would a$$ume that the routes don't have the refugees coming straight to Hawaii.  They should have them offload in Delaware. . .

QUIETShooter

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #350 on: August 23, 2021, 09:51:02 AM »
I kinda interpreted the news as airlines like Hawaiian will play an indirect role meaning they will assume the other routes the military uses in that region so that the military can concentrate their planes on Kabul Airport.

So I take it that Hawaiian will not directly fly into Kabul Airport.

edited to add:  Sorry I posted too early.  It was covered in the article.  I'm another one that doesn't read before I post. :(
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #351 on: August 23, 2021, 10:01:10 AM »
I kinda interpreted the news as airlines like Hawaiian will play an indirect role meaning they will assume the other routes the military uses in that region so that the military can concentrate their planes on Kabul Airport.

So I take it that Hawaiian will not directly fly into Kabul Airport.

edited to add:  Sorry I posted too early.  It was covered in the article.  I'm another one that doesn't read before I post. :(
It's Monday. . . did you have your coffee yet? 

Nvm, you're retired, so. . .  ;D

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #352 on: August 23, 2021, 10:29:06 AM »
Anyone buying what they are selling?

White House Press. Sec. says there are no Americans stranded in Afghanistan:

"I think it's irresponsible to say Americans are stranded. They are not."


https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1429889129656037376

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #353 on: August 23, 2021, 02:25:25 PM »
Joe single handedly destroying America's place on the world's stage.

In Their Last Meeting Angela Merkel Asks Putin for Help in Getting Her Out of Afghan Mess



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/last-meeting-angela-merkel-asks-putin-help-getting-afghan-mess/

QUIETShooter

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #354 on: August 23, 2021, 03:07:47 PM »
It's Monday. . . did you have your coffee yet? 

Nvm, you're retired, so. . .  ;D

 :crazy: I drank 2 cups.  Maybe gotta drink more? :D :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #355 on: August 23, 2021, 04:09:16 PM »
Fast and the furious....hold my beer.

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aletheuo137

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #356 on: August 23, 2021, 04:10:20 PM »
Espresso

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aieahound

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #357 on: August 23, 2021, 04:48:51 PM »
“The Biden brand is shot.

It rested on three main props: straight talking, competence, and empathy. They supposed to be supported by his deep foreign policy experience and understanding America’s true allies.

All those have been torched by his Afghanistan exit fiasco.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-sliding-down-slippery-074921482.html

changemyoil66

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #358 on: August 23, 2021, 05:15:58 PM »
“The Biden brand is shot.

It rested on three main props: straight talking, competence, and empathy. They supposed to be supported by his deep foreign policy experience and understanding America’s true allies.

All those have been torched by his Afghanistan exit fiasco.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-sliding-down-slippery-074921482.html
U think thats gonna stop TDS sufferers?

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Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #359 on: August 23, 2021, 05:41:50 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

Adam Schiff warns it's 'unlikely' Biden will rescue all Americans and Afghan allies before August 31 deadline after classified briefing:

US military tells president to decide on extension by TUESDAY or risk leaving troops behind