Give the Taliban names and locations of people to "rescue". What could go wrong...

How much more does america let biden and his people get away with? But all G cause no more mean tweets.

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Watching all this unfold the past week, I lost count of how many times members of the Biden administration uttered the same phrase that SHOULD be making the blood boil of every citizen of every western country .... "WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TALIBAN..."

Every person in the Biden Administration should have to put that on their resume  for the rest of their lives.

Cooperating with terrorists is literally a crime

Watching all this unfold the past week, I lost count of how many times members of the Biden administration uttered the same phrase that SHOULD be making the blood boil of every citizen of every western country .... "WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TALIBAN..."

Every person in the Biden Administration should have to put that on their resume  for the rest of their lives.

Cooperating with terrorists is literally a crime

Didn’t Trump Administration negotiate first deal with the Taliban ?
Just asking. Check whatever sources you folks want. They all spin it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/20/trump-peace-deal-taliban/

Didn’t Trump Administration negotiate first deal with the Taliban ?
Just asking. Check whatever sources you folks want. They all spin it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/20/trump-peace-deal-taliban/

Why not choose "the" source ....

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

Biden continues to bash the withdrawal deal as a failure on Trump's part.

But, since we already saw Biden slash and dismantle one Trump policy and executive order after another in the first few weeks of his term, it's totally preposterous to expect anyone to buy that Biden was somehow bound to adhere to this particular "bad" agreement.

This is Biden's mess -- 100%.  He and Obama had 8 years to find a better solution.  Instead, it took Trump to actually get the ball rolling.  The results belong to Biden.  Easy to criticize when he did nothing but make unkept promises.

Didn’t Trump Administration negotiate first deal with the Taliban ?
Just asking. Check whatever sources you folks want. They all spin it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/20/trump-peace-deal-taliban/

Brokering a peace deal with someone you are at war with is not exactly the same thing as arming them and then paying them to return your civilians. I know you will ask for a link to the story about payments. You are going to have to wait on the media to actually acknowledge what the State Dept has been hinting at.

 It was reported just this evening that the CIA is running rogue and making un-authorized airlifts of US civilians, they always throw cash around to make things happen. Probably money they made selling Afghan poppies in the US.

Also Trump's Peace Deal was 'We are leaving, but if you F Around You WILL Find Out. And we can always come back and we know where you live'.

Sorry, but you can't blame Trump.  The Joint Chiefs and Theater Commanders didn't get shuffled just because we have a new CinC.

The same military leadership that existed under Trump, and who had the responsibility for the planning and execution of the withdrawal, also exist under Biden.

The President is not responsible for doing the work of planning and implementing the logistics of what's happening.  While the CinC gets briefings on what's happening and has the opportunity to make sure objectives are being included, Trump wasn't the one pulling the levers and pushing the buttons.

Having said that, it now appears Biden's staff totally ignored the withdrawal until things started to fall apart.  When that happened, they failed to get out in front of it. 

I think Biden gets the full blame for letting this failure get as far as it did.  It shows how disconnected he is from running the country.  Trump would have never let this turn into the debacle it's become, because he's a problem solver.

Biden is more interested in getting another ice cream cone.

Like I have said many times before, presidents get way to much criticism and way to much praise and this is why I blame the generals and staff as much (if not more) than the president. Obviously the decision to withdraw, the decision to deal with the Taliban, etc are all policy decisions made by the president and I think Biden is partially to blame for some his policy decisions but Trump also made policy decisions that lead to where we are today.

I don't think there is much that Trump could have done differently which would have prevented the suicide bombing attack so attacking Biden for that is just blind political following.

I don't think this was ever going to go good. It may have been done better but it was always going to be messy one way or another. Trump is lucky it wasn't done on his watch because then he would get the blame, instead Biden is getting the blame.

Yeah sure, let's let the career criminal child molesting politician off the hook after he laughed at the fact that Americans are dying.

Of course Joe does not make any decisions and is just a sad puppet for the neoliberal establishment that has been in power since the first Bush, but there is some poetic justice watching his name getting dragged through the mud after the stolen election.

It hurts me to watch what is happening to my country, but it is a huge relief to see that the kleptocrats are panicking because they know they are about to get their comeuppance.

I just hope we can get out of there without someone shooting down a C-130.

Watching all this unfold the past week, I lost count of how many times members of the Biden administration uttered the same phrase that SHOULD be making the blood boil of every citizen of every western country .... "WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TALIBAN..."

Every person in the Biden Administration should have to put that on their resume  for the rest of their lives.

I never thought I would see this day.  America is collapsing.  biden has only been POTUS for 8 months......

Russia was working with the taliban too. Sometimes reality is reality.  Have to save American lives.  Though I find it funny that Russia just gtfo'ed out of Afghanistan too.   I think the taliban are losing control.   

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/us-special-operations-vets-carry-090023869.html

Nuts.
Tip my hat to these guys.

Like I have said many times before, presidents get way to much criticism and way to much praise and this is why I blame the generals and staff as much (if not more) than the president. Obviously the decision to withdraw, the decision to deal with the Taliban, etc are all policy decisions made by the president and I think Biden is partially to blame for some his policy decisions but Trump also made policy decisions that lead to where we are today.

I don't think there is much that Trump could have done differently which would have prevented the suicide bombing attack so attacking Biden for that is just blind political following.

I don't think this was ever going to go good. It may have been done better but it was always going to be messy one way or another. Trump is lucky it wasn't done on his watch because then he would get the blame, instead Biden is getting the blame.

Just a friendly reminder, the Taliban offered an unconditional surrender in 2001 promising to recognize the Karzai government, disband and disarm if they were allowed to return to their villages and left be. Bush and Rumsfeld told them to get F'd.


Now we are here.

Just a friendly reminder, the Taliban offered an unconditional surrender in 2001 promising to recognize the Karzai government, disband and disarm if they were allowed to return to their villages and left be. Bush and Rumsfeld told them to get F'd.


Now we are here.

Can't change the past, but do you honestly think they would keep up their side of the bargin?  The ones that during cease fires still explode?

I never thought I would see this day.  America is collapsing.  biden has only been POTUS for 8 months......

The US empire has been in decline for some time now and it has nothing to do with that Power Okole installed, senile old fool, sitting in the Oval Office.

The most powerful military this planet has ever seen, in human history, that can invade any nation in a matter of hours; and it can't evacuate its own citizenry, from a third-world failed state?   

Like I said in numerous posts, the US empire is collapsing and might dissolve faster than people think.

The US empire has been in decline for some time now and it has nothing to do with that Power Okole installed, senile old fool, sitting in the Oval Office.

The most powerful military this planet has ever seen, in human history, that can invade any nation in a matter of hours; and it can't evacuate its own citizenry, from a third-world failed state?   

Like I said in numerous posts, the US empire is collapsing and might dissolve faster than people think.

This happened before in the world. A government collapsed ... and then the opposition party the took over and swallowed the Rhineland and shortly after marched into Poland. I am sure a lot of Canadians under lock down are hoping history repeats itself sooner than later, Mexicans would also be pretty happy about it.

This happened before in the world. A government collapsed ... and then the opposition party the took over and swallowed the Rhineland and shortly after marched into Poland. I am sure a lot of Canadians under lock down are hoping history repeats itself sooner than later, Mexicans would also be pretty happy about it.

The difference with the US empire is that it will not stay united, for the reason discussed numerous times before, once the central government falls.  There is too much differences and not much homogeneity, amongst the people.  The only thing homogenous, among the American citizenry, is greed and since the ultrawealthy has made it impossible for many people to move-up the social-economic pyramid, there is nothing left to provide national unity.

The difference with the US empire is that it will not stay united, for the reason discussed numerous times before, once the central government falls.  There is too much differences and not much homogeneity, amongst the people.  The only thing homogenous, among the American citizenry, is greed and since the ultrawealthy has made it impossible for many people to move-up the social-economic pyramid, there is nothing left to provide national unity.

The trick that Devil pulled was finding an Enemy  to unite the people to follow him. Right now US people are brainwashed into thinking their neighbors are their enemy, but it only takes one event to change everything to 'Us against Them' again.

See 9-11

I’m thinking more like 1780’s France

'Let Them Eat Ice Cream'.

The trick that Devil pulled was finding an Enemy  to unite the people to follow him. Right now US people are brainwashed into thinking their neighbors are their enemy, but it only takes one event to change everything to 'Us against Them' again.

See 9-11

Although the false flag operations conducted, in the past, has worked to distract the American citizenry; they were done in a time when the US economy still had its strong foundations, manufacturing sector, and, most importantly, no other economy that was in the same league, as its own.

Such manipulation of the masses events will no longer have the same effect because: (1) most Americans are skeptical, of their own government officials; (2) the American economy sucks, for Main Street Americans; (3) the multi-spectrum divisions between its citizenry are irreversible; and (4) China's economy is on par with the US and will overtake it in the very near future.

Hence, the US empire's attempt to go to war with anyone will only hasten its economic demise, if it is waged, with an inferior opponent; or result in its Balkanization, if waged against a military peer.  The empires and nations that participated in both WWI and WWII all thought they could come out of top.  However, even on the so-called winning side, most of those empires either collapsed or quickly evaporated into obscurity.

I wish America would concentrate in cleaning up it's own yard instead of poking their noses in somebody else's yard.

I know it is simplistic but that's what I wish.  We've been trying to clean everybody else's yards and look where we are now.

I read too much storybooks with "Happily Ever After" endings.  We need Knights in Shining Armor instead of the greedy evil bastards we have now.