withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea? (Read 153809 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #560 on: August 31, 2021, 06:18:31 AM »
I read an article that said "low hundreds" of Americans are still in Afghanistan.

Then I read another article that said "about 600" Americans are still in Afghanistan.

These were statements from government officials.

I've never heard the term "low hundreds" before.

Our Blackhawks or Afghan army blackhawks?

Left behind?  I wouldn't be surprised American Blackhawks were left behind.  Besides a shit ton of other stuff.  There was an article that mentioned the military "permanently disabled" 150 pieces of equipment so it cannot be used again.  150 pieces.  Whoop dee doo........

Every time they show the news and I see Taliban soldiers brandishing M-16's and M-4's I shake my head.  Yes, most of them were abandoned by Afghan soldiers  but it just shows how failed the American involvement in training and equipping them was. 

I'm pretty sure the lower level military leaders in the field knew they lacked the will to fight but their superiors in the Pentagon and WH over 20 years refused to listen or declined to rock the boat to protect their promotions and status.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

RSN172

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #561 on: August 31, 2021, 06:23:05 AM »
The only good thing that will come out of this is the Democrats will lose their Senate and House majority in the midterms, hopefully.
Happily living in Puna

groveler

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #562 on: August 31, 2021, 06:30:23 AM »
The only good thing that will come out of this is the Democrats will lose their Senate and House majority in the midterms, hopefully.
Never underestimate the stupidity of USA Democrats, especially Hawaiian ones!
 :-[

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #563 on: August 31, 2021, 07:08:59 AM »
Apparently the Biden brand of Stupidity has No Brakes.


Biden administration now considers giving Taliban AID if they 'uphold their international obligations'



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9943561/Taliban-hold-mock-FUNERALS-American-forces-Thousands-celebrate-soldiers-leaving.html


Everything about his administration is completely broken.

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #564 on: August 31, 2021, 07:13:11 AM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9943583/Mother-Marine-killed-ISIS-bomb-attack-Instagram-account-SUSPENDED.html


Mother of Marine killed in ISIS bomb attack has her Instagram account disabled after she blamed Biden for her son's death and claimed President 'rolled his eyes' and 'turned his back on her' when she confronted him

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #565 on: August 31, 2021, 07:36:47 AM »

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #566 on: August 31, 2021, 07:50:57 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghan-interpreter-who-helped-rescue-biden-in-2008-left-behind-after-u-s-exit-11630429285

Afghan Interpreter Who Helped Rescue Biden in 2008 Left Behind After U.S. Exit

Thirteen years ago, Afghan interpreter Mohammed helped rescue then-Sen. Joe Biden and two other senators stranded in a remote Afghanistan valley after their helicopter was forced to land in a snowstorm. Now, Mohammed is asking President Biden to save him.

“Hello Mr. President: Save me and my family,” Mohammed, who asked not to use his full name while in hiding, told The Wall Street Journal as the last Americans flew out of Kabul on Monday. “Don’t forget me here.”

Mohammed and his four children are hiding from the Taliban after his yearslong attempt to get out of Afghanistan got tangled in the bureaucracy. They are among countless Afghan allies who were left behind when the U.S. ended its 20-year military campaign in Afghanistan on Monday.

Mohammed was a 36-year-old interpreter for the U.S. Army in 2008 when two U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopters made an emergency landing in Afghanistan during a blinding snowstorm. On board were three U.S. senators: Mr. Biden, the Delaware Democrat, John Kerry, (D., Mass.) and Chuck Hagel, (R., Neb.).

Kuleana

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #567 on: August 31, 2021, 07:53:56 AM »
I'm pretty sure the lower level military leaders in the field knew they lacked the will to fight but their superiors in the Pentagon and WH over 20 years refused to listen or declined to rock the boat to protect their promotions and status.
Everyone needs to understand, the main goals of the invasion of Afghanistan was primarily based on:

1. Pipelines
2. Opium
3. Keep China Out

Everything else was propaganda, to cover the US empire's ultrawealthy cashing in, on the imperial military's presence there.  Shamelessly, the only tears those war profiteers are shedding now is for lost revenue and not the human price that was paid, by both sides, of that 20 year illegal occupation.

Sadly, just another day's work, in the US empire, which you can be reassured those war criminals are looking for another nation to falsely invade, set-up shop, and run the same game all over again.   :wtf:

macsak

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #568 on: August 31, 2021, 08:20:12 AM »
Conflicting info. Some articles say all Americans are out

I may be wrong

Will wait and see in the coming days.

waiting to see if you admit you were wrong...

drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #569 on: August 31, 2021, 08:20:59 AM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9943583/Mother-Marine-killed-ISIS-bomb-attack-Instagram-account-SUSPENDED.html


Mother of Marine killed in ISIS bomb attack has her Instagram account disabled after she blamed Biden for her son's death and claimed President 'rolled his eyes' and 'turned his back on her' when she confronted him
No way.  No bias in the media, social media, etc.  Just doesn't happen. . .

drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #570 on: August 31, 2021, 08:21:56 AM »
waiting to see if you admit you were wrong...
Try hold your breath until he does. . .  ;D

macsak

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #571 on: August 31, 2021, 08:29:30 AM »

macsak

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #572 on: August 31, 2021, 08:29:54 AM »
Try hold your breath until he does. . .  ;D

TQ da neck...

aieahound

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #573 on: August 31, 2021, 09:01:28 AM »
Did we even get any minerals out of this 20 year war ?
Or did we just set the table for China?

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #574 on: August 31, 2021, 09:03:30 AM »
Did we even get any minerals out of this 20 year war ?
Or did we just set the table for China?

Obama turned off the program Bush had set up to allow US companies to come in and take those spoils of war.

Kuleana

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #575 on: August 31, 2021, 09:29:02 AM »
Did we even get any minerals out of this 20 year war ?
Or did we just set the table for China?
Why would the US empire want to spend money to extract those minerals when it does not directly manufacture a whole lot of consumer products that require those rocks?

Their goal was to try and prevent as long as possible, the supply of those minerals to China, in order to keep its rising economy in-check.

RSN172

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #576 on: August 31, 2021, 09:30:33 AM »
Biden just started to address the nation on CBS right now at 0928.
Happily living in Puna

Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #577 on: August 31, 2021, 10:30:10 AM »
At this point I don't think his cabinet is telling him what is actually going on and he doesn't care enough to ask.


BIDEN: "The extraordinary success of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravery and selfless courage the United States military and our diplomats and intelligence professionals."



https://mobile.twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1432789307111219203

omnigun

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #578 on: August 31, 2021, 10:33:25 AM »
waiting to see if you admit you were wrong...

>few days

With the additional articles posted today I can say I was wrong.  Most are out and the military is out, but few remain.  Not sure what types remain though.

omnigun

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #579 on: August 31, 2021, 10:33:49 AM »
Why would the US empire want to spend money to extract those minerals when it does not directly manufacture a whole lot of consumer products that require those rocks?

Their goal was to try and prevent as long as possible, the supply of those minerals to China, in order to keep its rising economy in-check.

lol