it's "transitory" (Read 10565 times)

Kuleana

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2021, 03:31:32 PM »
China dont pay $5/hr. Try $0.75/hr.
Be Quiet!!!

Don't tell my handlers that...

Kuleana

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2021, 03:35:47 PM »
If you think I'm talking about you, I probably am ....   :shaka: :geekdanc:
Not you Flapp, but just like our favorite resident OG IT warrior with his side-folding laptop and wireless multicam colored mouse;  I have been outed...   >:(
« Last Edit: July 14, 2021, 03:49:24 PM by Kuleana »

Kuleana

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2021, 03:45:59 PM »
I am confused, I thought the 2nd greatest achievement the Hawaiian culture (first being the navigation to find this place) was their excellent system of resource management when it came to feeding  themselves by their own means? Irrigation for taro, buidling fish ponds, deep sea fishing, rationing, and the kapu system dictating  who got to eat what. Why would you import food?
I am a Hawaiian nationalist, but one who lives in the 21st century.

I love all kinds of food, but am a lazy guy, who loves technological progress.  The days slaving in the taro patch and fishing all-day are reserved for those Hawaiians, who believe in their version, of a pre-contact lifestyle.  Strangely held beliefs since the Kapu system was abolished as well as the establishment of Christianity, among Hawaiians, were all decreed, during the Kingdom era.

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2021, 03:56:25 PM »
I am a Hawaiian nationalist, but one who lives in the 21st century.

I love all kinds of food, but am a lazy guy, who loves technological progress.  The days slaving in the taro patch and fishing all-day are reserved for those Hawaiians, who believe in their version, of a pre-contact lifestyle.  Strangely held beliefs since the Kapu system was abolished as well as the establishment of Christianity, among Hawaiians, were all decreed, during the Kingdom era.

I know some folks who bought property on the big island and went back to traditional Hawaiian subsistance living 30 yrs ago, they are really happy. Big upside of doing that is the health benefits of going back to the diet of your genetic memory. Also being off the grid and living old school made  them give zero Fs about politics and government, it doesn't really touch their lives much.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2021, 04:02:36 PM »
I know some folks who bought property on the big island and went back to traditional Hawaiian subsistance living 30 yrs ago, they are really happy. Big upside of doing that is the health benefits of going back to the diet of your genetic memory. Also being off the grid and living old school made  them give zero Fs about politics and government, it doesn't really touch their lives much.

If you do that in the Great Smokey Mountains of North Carolina, you're labeled an anti-government, militia-loving prepper.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2021, 04:26:45 PM »
Not you Flapp, but just like our favorite resident OG IT warrior with his side-folding laptop and wireless multicam colored mouse;  I have been outed...   >:(

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2021, 04:46:10 PM »
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



Do you have the Millennial Edition that doesn't require correct English spellings or grammar?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2021, 04:50:23 PM »
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


he/she/it fails at the "spell" part...

hvybarrels

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2021, 06:24:54 PM »
Travel to some other parts of the Pacific and you will quickly get an idea for what is the most likely future of Hawaii without empire money pouring in. Except we neglected most of our natural resources, polluted the rest, and a big chunk of our highest value tourist property and infrastructure is going under water. The best case scenario would be something like Fiji, which is still very poor compared with our standards.  On the other hand they will manage to eat relatively well during the coming shortages while we murder each other over ketchup packets.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2021, 06:58:22 PM »
Anyone remember the island of Nauru, and all those billions they made?  that they bankrolled into massive real estate projects including huge towers here on Oahu? I mean those guys are set for LIFE!!! ...... wait oops my bad.

omnigun

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2021, 07:00:55 PM »
The US empire is collapsing from within, for the many reasons you and almost everyone on this forum are familiar.

Hawaiians such as myself, know the challenge is to quickly reassert its international sovereignty, once the collapse begins, in order to restore normalcy and prevent SHTF chaos that will also occur, to the other former states, of the US empire, if they do not prepare similar contingencies.

This requires reestablishing the trade treaties the Hawaiian nation had prior to its illegal annexation, by the US empire; thereby, hopefully achieving a continuity of economic and financial commerce as well as food security, all for survival.

No one would make a favorable trade agreement to a tiny island. Negotiation wise you would be with less leverage.  Treaties too.  China would take over this island quick.  Lend a bunch of money and start influencing just like Africa. Then again you would love that.   

omnigun

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2021, 07:03:50 PM »
I know some folks who bought property on the big island and went back to traditional Hawaiian subsistance living 30 yrs ago, they are really happy. Big upside of doing that is the health benefits of going back to the diet of your genetic memory. Also being off the grid and living old school made  them give zero Fs about politics and government, it doesn't really touch their lives much.

"Genetic memory"  :rofl:

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2021, 07:11:28 PM »
"Genetic memory"  :rofl:


You really should learn to read so you can crack book and maybe not be a fool everyday of the rest of your life.

Scientists Have Observed Epigenetic Memories Being Passed Down For 14 Generations

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-observe-epigenetic-memories-passed-down-for-14-generations-most-animal

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2021, 07:16:40 PM »

omnigun

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2021, 07:46:13 PM »

You really should learn to read so you can crack book and maybe not be a fool everyday of the rest of your life.

Scientists Have Observed Epigenetic Memories Being Passed Down For 14 Generations

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-observe-epigenetic-memories-passed-down-for-14-generations-most-animal

There are many examples of this phenomenon in worms and mice, but the study of environmental epigenetic inheritance in humans is a hotly debated topic, and there's still a lot we don't know.

"Inherited effects in humans are difficult to measure due to the long generation times and difficulty with accurate record keeping," stated one recent review of epigenetic inheritance.

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2021, 07:51:33 PM »
There are many examples of this phenomenon in worms and mice, but the study of environmental epigenetic inheritance in humans is a hotly debated topic, and there's still a lot we don't know.

"Inherited effects in humans are difficult to measure due to the long generation times and difficulty with accurate record keeping," stated one recent review of epigenetic inheritance.

So your telling me that Siri said you were ignorant again.

hvybarrels

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2021, 10:38:16 PM »
 :stopjack:

People have known about what is happening now for decades, but obviously it is not a popular subject and most folks prefer comforting lies over the awful truth



The system managed to paper over the 2008 crisis with fracking and other non-conventional sources, but all they ended up accomplishing was to prove that these methods are not self sustaining without the massive investment of speculative bubbles.

What we are facing is a stair step pattern of crashes and semi-recoveries known as demand destruction that will continue over the next few centuries, as Western Civilization winds down to a deindustrial dark age. 

Inflation is not just here to stay, it is the tip of a very large iceberg that cannot be avoided.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2021, 11:06:27 PM »
There are many examples of this phenomenon in worms and mice, but the study of environmental epigenetic inheritance in humans is a hotly debated topic, and there's still a lot we don't know.

"Inherited effects in humans are difficult to measure due to the long generation times and difficulty with accurate record keeping," stated one recent review of epigenetic inheritance.

You left out Altered States, but that was way before your time.

With the right mushrooms, you can make a concoction that taps into the genetic memory of your cells.  At least, it worked for William Hurt.   :rofl: :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2021, 11:39:21 PM »
China dont pay $5/hr. Try $0.75/hr.

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$0.76/hr

Inflation brah

Kuleana

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2021, 09:00:41 AM »
No one would make a favorable trade agreement to a tiny island. Negotiation wise you would be with less leverage.  Treaties too.  China would take over this island quick.  Lend a bunch of money and start influencing just like Africa. Then again you would love that.
The conditions you state were present, if not worse, during the age of empires, in the 19th century, and yet the Hawaiian Kingdom, due to its skillful use of diplomacy was able to economically thrive through its trade treaties it enacted with the imperial powers, of its era.

That is, until the US imperialists, not American patriots, hijacked their nation's foreign policy and orchestrated Hawaii's eventual illegal occupation.