The Jab (Read 174516 times)

omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #340 on: September 07, 2021, 05:22:56 PM »
Geert Vanden Bossche, world reknowned vaccine creator, issue a warning on the C19 vaccination, calling it a “public health emergency of international concern”. C19 vaccination destroys your innate immune system.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LtdOBCrdSYPM/

"C19 vaccination destroys your innate immune system"  lol
Must explain why hundreds of millions are getting sick right now cause of no immune system...oh wait.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #341 on: September 07, 2021, 07:46:53 PM »
Just because a perceived reputable or widely known source says something, doesn't make it so.  That's what folks need to be aware of stuff that's more opinion columns than news.  So many times the facts are spun with so much opinion and often when digging further, one can usually find that those opinion column folks conveniently leave out critical information that doesn't fit their opinion.  It's like they are counting on folks to just read the headline and maybe a couple of paragraphs in, maybe.  But no, the media would nevar do that.  Right. . .

Its always interesting that I see this objection raised when the "experts" are saying things the person doesn't want to believe but when it is something they do want to believe its received without question, like the Geert Vanden Bossche dude. This is a general observations, I see this frequently on both sides of the political aisle.

drck1000

Re: The Jab
« Reply #342 on: September 07, 2021, 07:51:31 PM »
What objection did I raise?

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #343 on: September 07, 2021, 07:51:54 PM »
Here' s a running list of people who died from bad reactions to the vaccine. At lot of these cases their families were told not to mention their stories to the media.

We might have to move this topic to preparedness/survival soon

https://thecovidblog.com/

From bad reactions to the vaccine or who have experienced a medical problem after getting the vaccine? As the addage goes, correlation does not prove causation.

I am sure a certain number of adverse reactions are happening but it would be wrong to think every health problem that coincides with a vaccine does was caused by the vaccine. The first thing to do is look at the rate of a particular health problem after vaccines and compare that to the same health problem among someone from that same age/class/etc group in a normal year.

Secondly is whether the rate of serious side effects makes the vaccine more dangerous than covid. So far the available data shows that the covid vaccine is still far safer than catching covid. Given that it is a risk assessment, and you choose the lower risk option.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #344 on: September 07, 2021, 07:53:38 PM »
What objection did I raise?

Casting doubt on whatever we are told by default.

drck1000

Re: The Jab
« Reply #345 on: September 07, 2021, 07:56:50 PM »
Casting doubt on whatever we are told by default.
So free thinking and finding out for one’s self is bad?

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #346 on: September 07, 2021, 07:56:56 PM »
Geert Vanden Bossche, world reknowned vaccine creator, issue a warning on the C19 vaccination, calling it a “public health emergency of international concern”. C19 vaccination destroys your innate immune system.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LtdOBCrdSYPM/


Glasser

Re: The Jab
« Reply #347 on: September 07, 2021, 07:57:49 PM »
Your health is your business, godspeed to you.
Others peoples health is none of your damn business.
If you are so convinced the vaxx is the answer than you are safe arent you?
And you can go back to minding your own business cant you?

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #348 on: September 07, 2021, 08:01:54 PM »
So free thinking and finding out for one’s self is bad?

When it is done unevenly, sure.

It isn't that I trust the media all the time but I try not to cast doubt just on sources that might contradict my position or conception. Sure, the media can misinform us whether intentionally, negligently, or through no fault of their own but I don't just toss it all out the window either. A good news source will link to the original report. When it came to the information about vaccine side effects happening mostly shortly after being given the dose I read about it and heard a doctor explain it, it wasn't just some headline. I try to avoid headlines because they are so often misleading.

drck1000

Re: The Jab
« Reply #349 on: September 07, 2021, 08:05:22 PM »
So where was I casting doubt? I just said be weary of opinion piece masquerading as news. Nothing to do with politics. At all….

Anyways, carry on…

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #350 on: September 07, 2021, 08:09:07 PM »
Your health is your business, godspeed to you.
Others peoples health is none of your damn business.
If you are so convinced the vaxx is the answer than you are safe arent you?
And you can go back to minding your own business cant you?

I would never force a vaccine upon anyone but when choices start to affect others it kind of becomes other people's business doesn't it?

If I decided to burn tires in my back yard do I get to tell me neighbors to mind their own business when the smoke blows into their yard? When hospitals get overloaded because of unvaccinated covid patients and I can't get needed medical attention then it isn't just a person making their own health decision but not affecting anyone else.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #351 on: September 07, 2021, 08:10:07 PM »
So where was I casting doubt? I just said be weary of opinion piece masquerading as news. Nothing to do with politics. At all….

Anyways, carry on…

Fair enough, I thought you were trying to rebut my comment above yours. If not then my bad.

Glasser

Re: The Jab
« Reply #352 on: September 07, 2021, 08:14:47 PM »
I would never force a vaccine upon anyone but when choices start to affect others it kind of becomes other people's business doesn't it?



You either believe the vaxx will save you from serious illness or you dont. If it will protect you than you have ZERO worry of someone else taking away life saving care from you.
Pick one, you either believe you are safe and you have no worries, or you are worried it doesnt work as advertised and you are in the same boat as the unvaxxed.

You cant have it both ways.

changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #353 on: September 07, 2021, 08:14:59 PM »
When it is done unevenly, sure.

It isn't that I trust the media all the time but I try not to cast doubt just on sources that might contradict my position or conception. Sure, the media can misinform us whether intentionally, negligently, or through no fault of their own but I don't just toss it all out the window either. A good news source will link to the original report. When it came to the information about vaccine side effects happening mostly shortly after being given the dose I read about it and heard a doctor explain it, it wasn't just some headline. I try to avoid headlines because they are so often misleading.
We covered this in the covid thread, but basically why should 1 trust the lying media now when for the past 5 years they made stuff up. Russia, ukraine, sex assault, etc....The boy who cried wolf example.

Then why trust gov agencies who have and can be weaponized against trump supporters. Flynn, Stone, etc...

This is why myself and others dont trust whats being told on TV. Then add in the cdc being wrong multiple times. And the excuse for them is cause covid is new. So they can make no mistakes nor be held accountable.

I wont get too much into it here due to it being covered already, feel free to read the covid thread for more details. Idk exactly where.

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changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #354 on: September 07, 2021, 08:17:26 PM »
I would never force a vaccine upon anyone but when choices start to affect others it kind of becomes other people's business doesn't it?

If I decided to burn tires in my back yard do I get to tell me neighbors to mind their own business when the smoke blows into their yard? When hospitals get overloaded because of unvaccinated covid patients and I can't get needed medical attention then it isn't just a person making their own health decision but not affecting anyone else.
Sounds like u should be mad at the hospitals for not being more prepared. They only had a year to figure stuff out. But i guess to them, $ is more important. No blame on them i guess. Big guys get a pass again.

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macsak

Re: The Jab
« Reply #355 on: September 07, 2021, 08:18:34 PM »
So where was I casting doubt? I just said be weary of opinion piece masquerading as news. Nothing to do with politics. At all….

Anyways, carry on…

did you go to a reputable school too?

drck1000

Re: The Jab
« Reply #356 on: September 07, 2021, 08:20:47 PM »
did you go to a reputable school too?
Didn’t go skool

Glasser

Re: The Jab
« Reply #357 on: September 07, 2021, 08:24:33 PM »
I am glad macsak wasnt grading my papers or I would still be attending Kailua High today.

changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #358 on: September 07, 2021, 08:31:39 PM »
I would never force a vaccine upon anyone but when choices start to affect others it kind of becomes other people's business doesn't it?

If I decided to burn tires in my back yard do I get to tell me neighbors to mind their own business when the smoke blows into their yard? When hospitals get overloaded because of unvaccinated covid patients and I can't get needed medical attention then it isn't just a person making their own health decision but not affecting anyone else.
Sounds like u should give up all your personal guns, cause there is a 0.0000001% chance a thief could steal ur entire safe and the guns be used for bad. This affects others. We covered this already with omni because he felt a vaxx is worth it even if it helps very little or the risk is very small.

News flash, all choices affect others. So to say that x has to be done because it affects others is BS.

How many car accidents have u seen where 1 second could have avoided it.

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macsak

Re: The Jab
« Reply #359 on: September 07, 2021, 08:40:17 PM »
I am glad macsak wasnt grading my papers or I would still be attending Kailua High today.

#notarealteacher