Dont u know, they are fake news. Despite the many retractions made trying to call them fake news or legal suits won.

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If the vaccines are only recommended for 16 yr olds and older, and the unborn child gets his/her immunity from the mother, it doesn't make any sense to give the vaccine to someone who is, or expects to be, pregnant.

It's an unknown risk, so prudence would dictate avoiding the vaccine prior to giving birth while being hyper-vigilant to do all the things we know reduces the chances of infection.

Aspirin was first created in 1853.  A precursor for aspirin found in the Willow Tree has been used for 2,400 years.  It took until 1986 for the FDA to recognize the risk of Reye's Syndrome in children to recommend that pregnant women in the last few months of pregnancy, children and teenagers avoid using aspirin.

COVID vaccines have had less than 2 years of clinical and field testing.  Anyone who makes the statement "there's no evidence of long term effects causing birth defects," has no clue what "long term" means.

That doesn't mean they can't make relatively accurate long term predictions. So this mRNA method of treating conditions has been under research for about 30 years. That combined with a strong knowledge of chemistry and biology is going to give scientists a pretty good idea of how the various substances are going to react. It isn't guaranteed that nothing else will happen but it isn't a shot in the dark either. We know quite a bit more now than in 1853, heck in 1853 instrument sterilization and hand washing weren't really even a big thing in medicine.

We know enough more that I am a lot more confidant that the risk for long term complications is quite low. I don't think anyone has ever put salter caramel on a slice of salmon but we already know how salt and sugars interact with flesh so we can pretty safely say it isn't dangerous to combine those two things (yes I know it is overly simplistic).

I listened to an interview with a local OBGYN who explained that mRNA cannot pass through the amniotic sack so based on that knowledge they can already rule out many types of potential risks. What the OBGYN did cover is that the side effects of getting covid while pregnant could be quite serious to the mother and the baby. Like with anything else I think we should look at the covid vaccine in terms of least risk because there is never zero risk in any choice. What could the vaccine do to me and my baby vs what could covid do.

That doesn't mean they can't make relatively accurate long term predictions.

Predictions?

You mean like this?

Forecasting for COVID-19 has failed

Epidemic forecasting has a dubious track-record, and its failures became more prominent with
COVID-19. Poor data input, wrong modeling assumptions, high sensitivity of estimates, lack of
incorporation of epidemiological features, poor past evidence on effects of available interventions,
lack of transparency, errors, lack of determinacy, consideration of only one or a few dimensions of
the problem at hand, lack of expertise in crucial disciplines, groupthink and bandwagon effects,
and selective reporting are some of the causes of these failures.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7447267/

Predictions?

You mean like this?

Forecasting for COVID-19 has failedhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7447267/

That is kind of a different topic though, studying a drug vs studying how a disease moves across a population. Epidemiology is a lot more complicated with more variables than chemistry and biology.

That is kind of a different topic though, studying a drug vs studying how a disease moves across a population. Epidemiology is a lot more complicated with more variables than chemistry and biology.

Still the same, trying to predict the spread of the DISEASE requires the same type of knowledge, disciplines and processes as predicting how DRUGS will impact the DISEASE, the INFECTED and the VACCINATED.

Can't study the drugs if you haven't got a good grasp on the disease it treats.

Still the same, trying to predict the spread of the DISEASE requires the same type of knowledge, disciplines and processes as predicting how DRUGS will impact the DISEASE, the INFECTED and the VACCINATED.

Can't study the drugs if you haven't got a good grasp on the disease it treats.

Disease evolve so there is always going to be some unpredictable factor so a vaccines effectiveness long term cannot be predicted for certain. But when it comes to long term side effects I think scientists have much better ideas of how the ingredients in the vaccine are going to interact with our biology.

It wasn't long ago that airplanes had to be drawn by hand and wind tunnels be used for extensive testing. Now with computers these things can all be simulated with much higher confidence and speed.

Disease evolve so there is always going to be some unpredictable factor so a vaccines effectiveness long term cannot be predicted for certain. But when it comes to long term side effects I think scientists have much better ideas of how the ingredients in the vaccine are going to interact with our biology.

It wasn't long ago that airplanes had to be drawn by hand and wind tunnels be used for extensive testing. Now with computers these things can all be simulated with much higher confidence and speed.

I never said anything "can be predicted for certain."  No doctor in his right mind guarantees a given result from any medication.  There's alway a certain degree of risk that drugs will not work or will cause worse problems for a given patient.  What they can do is offer an OPINION on the risks.  It's up to the patient to accept them, not the doctors.

I went for LASIK surgery.  The first visit was to identify whether or not I was a viable candidate for the surgery.  Next visit was to map my eyes with a computer and create a custom prescription for each lens.  Next visit was to actually cut my lenses with the laser.  The day following surgery, I was tested with 20/20 in the right, and 20/10 in the left.

Before I agreed with the procedure, I had to read some literature and watch a video outlining all the bad things that some LASIK patients have experienced.  The effects included worse vision than before the surgery, constant halo effects from lights at night, and even blindness.

In the end, I had to make the decision based on the information provided.

As of now, there's not enough information for the individual to make a truly informed decision, because there hasn't been enough time to really know all the effects of the vaccines -- no matter how many drug-maker-sponsored studies the government cites.

Disease evolve so there is always going to be some unpredictable factor so a vaccines effectiveness long term cannot be predicted for certain. But when it comes to long term side effects I think scientists have much better ideas of how the ingredients in the vaccine are going to interact with our biology.

It wasn't long ago that airplanes had to be drawn by hand and wind tunnels be used for extensive testing. Now with computers these things can all be simulated with much higher confidence and speed.

It was not that long ago that vaccines took years to bring to market because of all those pesky safety regulations. Now we just skip right over all that noise and test it on the general public regardless if they want it or not.

Federal Govt HHS Whistleblower Goes Public With Secret Recordings "Vaccine is Full of Sh*t"

Federal Govt HHS Whistleblower Goes Public With Secret Recordings "Vaccine is Full of Sh*t"

lol veritas is full of shit. 

Disease evolve so there is always going to be some unpredictable factor so a vaccines effectiveness long term cannot be predicted for certain. But when it comes to long term side effects I think scientists have much better ideas of how the ingredients in the vaccine are going to interact with our biology.

It wasn't long ago that airplanes had to be drawn by hand and wind tunnels be used for extensive testing. Now with computers these things can all be simulated with much higher confidence and speed.

According to the gestapo, covid mutated/evolved because of the unvaxxed. It's entirely their fault.

lol veritas is full of shit.

as always, you left out somethihng...

as always, you left out somethihng...

What is a test target.
Or gun was never possessed as claimed

lol veritas is full of shit , like macsak.

as always, you left out somethihng...

you mean like that? 

as always, you left out somethihng...

We covered this with him already. And again, when goal post moved or his opinions are wrong, then he forgets.

We covered this with him already. And again, when goal post moved or his opinions are wrong, then he forgets.

#cogdis

as always, you left out somethihng...

In the majority of people's including my opinion,  Veritas is full of shit. 

Similar to opinions of MSM.

 

I am the majority of people's opinion. . . 

I am the majority of people's opinion. . . 

Nope.   I am just a member of the majority.  Most people if polled would say Veritas is not legit news.   Much like I would say would have the same opinion about MSM

Point completely whiffed at. . .

CMO will be along soon with the sound effects. . .