Religion (Read 72989 times)

Glasser

Re: Religion
« Reply #120 on: September 07, 2021, 09:49:55 PM »
"Values" are judgmental evaluations that label a specific outcome as better or worse than another outcome.

Science is unable to quantify value judgements.  Science can only tell us what "is", whereas values tell us what "ought to be."

Values are not scientific facts, because they can not be tested. 

For example, one way to judge an outcome is to look for the best "individual well-being", but another way is to look for the best "greater good."  Two different evaluations that can't be repeated or tested scientifically. 

Example:  Is it better that 5 soldiers risk their lives to rescue a hostage (individual well-being) or better to abandon the hostage rather than risk the lives of 5 soldiers.  These are value judgements that can't be resolved through any scientific or empirical method.

The people who believe science can create a "religion" and define what is right or wrong are looking at a narrow list of examples that agree with their persoanl moral value judgments in each case.

here ya go right from the Satanic Temples own website. Notice how dumbass doesnt believe in any of their basic precepts?


III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.


omnigun

Re: Religion
« Reply #121 on: September 07, 2021, 09:50:59 PM »
just pierce your dong and tell your parents you hate them, same result.

Nothing against my parents.  They too are not really religious.   Just cause you lived a religious life don't make mine bad.   Unless you got molested by a priest or have daddy issues cause of your childhood.

drck1000

Re: Religion
« Reply #122 on: September 07, 2021, 09:51:29 PM »
science has nothing to do with values...
pH values…like toxic, dude

omnigun

Re: Religion
« Reply #123 on: September 07, 2021, 09:52:30 PM »
here ya go right from the Satanic Temples own website. Notice how dumbass doesnt believe in any of their basic precepts?


III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.


I believe in all of those...I use science unlike you.  I've never said you shouldn't be able to say stupid offending shit.  And I also believe in freedom, unless that freedom encroaches on others. 

Glasser

Re: Religion
« Reply #124 on: September 07, 2021, 09:55:48 PM »
Nothing against my parents.  They too are not really religious.   Just cause you lived a religious life don't make mine bad.   Unless you got molested by a priest or have daddy issues cause of your childhood.


Glasser

Re: Religion
« Reply #125 on: September 07, 2021, 09:57:42 PM »
I believe in all of those...I use science unlike you.  I've never said you shouldn't be able to say stupid offending shit.  And I also believe in freedom, unless that freedom encroaches on others.


macsak

Re: Religion
« Reply #126 on: September 07, 2021, 10:14:23 PM »
Yes it can,  you can value things that provide a good benefit for science and humans without religion...

NO

omnigun

Re: Religion
« Reply #127 on: September 07, 2021, 10:52:17 PM »



The satanic temple is not actually satanists....can't u learn 2 read?

hvybarrels

Re: Religion
« Reply #128 on: September 08, 2021, 12:24:17 AM »
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

hvybarrels

Re: Religion
« Reply #129 on: September 08, 2021, 12:25:59 AM »
Since you can't have Satan without Jesus, wouldn't that make Satanist just another Christian denomination?

Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

omnigun

Re: Religion
« Reply #130 on: September 08, 2021, 06:49:38 AM »
Since you can't have Satan without Jesus, wouldn't that make Satanist just another Christian denomination?



It's just another made up religion like all of them.   Pick a random thing to worship.  Slap a name on it.   

changemyoil66

Re: Religion
« Reply #131 on: September 08, 2021, 08:15:42 AM »
NO
Of course the 1 guy here doesnt understand what values are.

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Glasser

Re: Religion
« Reply #132 on: September 08, 2021, 08:36:25 AM »
Dumbass just admitted he worships made up things. Not an epiphany for us, but maybe for him,

changemyoil66

Re: Religion
« Reply #133 on: September 08, 2021, 08:45:36 AM »
Dumbass just admitted he worships made up things. Not an epiphany for us, but maybe for him,

Most info he post is wrong, so that could fall under the "made up" category.  So are we surprised?

hvybarrels

Re: Religion
« Reply #134 on: September 08, 2021, 08:49:08 AM »
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

omnigun

Re: Religion
« Reply #135 on: September 08, 2021, 09:04:29 AM »
Dumbass just admitted he worships made up things. Not an epiphany for us, but maybe for him,

Man that bus was really short to your skool eh.  I just said I am agnostic.  I don't worship anything.  Much less made up human religions.  There is no religion on earth that can be 100% correct.  Look how much they have changed in the last 200 years.  Lul.  Keep worshipping false idols,  wait isn't that against some of yalls religions?  :rofl: :rofl:

ren

Re: Religion
« Reply #136 on: September 08, 2021, 09:05:23 AM »
Why have a symbol of worship i.e. "temple" when you are the atheist?
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: Religion
« Reply #137 on: September 08, 2021, 09:05:37 AM »
Most info he post is wrong, so that could fall under the "made up" category.  So are we surprised?

#fakenews

I would say the same to you.  Most stuff you post is false.  If covid is so mundane why wear masks?  I know you got dem fancy ones. Mr .00000000000000001% death.

omnigun

Re: Religion
« Reply #138 on: September 08, 2021, 09:07:50 AM »
Why have a symbol of worship i.e. "temple" when you are the atheist?

I don't have a temple.  Never go to church.  Belong to none,  But I do support the Satanic "Temple".  You can give money to things you are not a direct part of if you support their cause.   I've said repeatedly before if I were to pick a religion that would be it.  Thankfully in Hawaii I don't have to make that choice we are not some kooky religious state.  If I was in one of those I would have to support a religion out of necessity for my civil rights.  Hence I would join them.

hvybarrels

Re: Religion
« Reply #139 on: September 08, 2021, 10:08:28 AM »
Attention Seekologist

Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.