Religion (Read 72991 times)

aletheuo137

Re: Religion
« Reply #200 on: September 10, 2021, 11:15:38 AM »
Sociopath =/= anti-social
Maladjusted, Antisocial, and Darn-mean! Tom Thumb

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aletheuo137

Re: Religion
« Reply #201 on: September 10, 2021, 11:17:08 AM »
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macsak

Re: Religion
« Reply #202 on: September 10, 2021, 11:51:37 AM »
That video above is disturbing.

that channel has a whole series of videos...

Glasser

Re: Religion
« Reply #203 on: September 10, 2021, 12:25:03 PM »
My wife travels mainland for work a lot. And noticed the difference in crackheads up there compared to here.  HI druggies are more chill compared to the mainland.

Dallas TX the homeless addict beggars want to tell you a 15 minute story about why they need to borrow a dollar. A bunch of them carry a folder with documents to 'prove' their particular plight was unavoidable.

It's a lot of work. They aren't even making minimum wage. Gotta respect the salesmanship and covering their bases.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Religion
« Reply #204 on: September 10, 2021, 02:36:46 PM »
Dallas TX the homeless addict beggars want to tell you a 15 minute story about why they need to borrow a dollar. A bunch of them carry a folder with documents to 'prove' their particular plight was unavoidable.

It's a lot of work. They aren't even making minimum wage. Gotta respect the salesmanship and covering their bases.

Same thing all over California.  One yelled at me from 5 rows over in a parking lot.  I had no idea who he was yelling at until he came over to where i was getting into my car.  He proceeded to tell me a long story about his problems and why he just needed 5 dollars for gas and would send it to me if I gave him my name and address.  "Sure.  Here's my money, and here's my personal information that I would never hand out to strangers I don't know."   :wacko:

I'm sure their goal is to be so pitiful and long-winded, that you'll pay them just to shut them up so they'll be on their way and leave you alone.

Seems the general population has the impression that only someone in real need would have the guts to beg for money, so most just give up the cash -- story or no story.  Given that, it's no wonder panhandling has become an actual vocation.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Religion
« Reply #205 on: September 10, 2021, 03:50:25 PM »
Think these people are Religious ?

I would bet a bunch are. But that’s my thought.

What does it have to do with anything ?
Haven’t formed an opinion on that yet.
Pondering.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Religion
« Reply #206 on: September 10, 2021, 04:17:46 PM »
Think these people are Religious ?

I would bet a bunch are. But that’s my thought.

What does it have to do with anything ?
Haven’t formed an opinion on that yet.
Pondering.

I'd answer your question, but then I'd have to explain it to you.

Not my job.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Religion
« Reply #207 on: September 10, 2021, 07:48:47 PM »
You can’t explain anything I can’t google.
So don’t worry about it.
Google seems to be the extent of your thought process.

I thought you weren’t replying to my posts because I allegedly lied about you.
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aieahound

Re: Religion
« Reply #208 on: September 10, 2021, 08:13:51 PM »
What makes a person religious ?
Thinking about it:
What makes a person religious in the eyes of the religion?
What makes a person religious in their own eyes ?
If you kill someone intentionally but later accept Jesus or Mohammed or whoever are you later absolved if you confess your sins?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Religion
« Reply #209 on: September 10, 2021, 08:16:56 PM »
You can’t explain anything I can’t google.
So don’t worry about it.
Google seems to be the extent of your thought process.

I thought you weren’t replying to my posts because I allegedly lied about you.

For someone who pretends he can Google (we know your Google-Fu is very, very weak), you sure do ask a lot of questions.

Then many of them you repeat many times as if demanding an answer.

I'm going to reply whenever I feel like it.  Just like you are going to Troll 90%+ of your time on here.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Religion
« Reply #210 on: September 10, 2021, 08:17:53 PM »
Stop replying.
It wouldn’t be trolling.

If you ask a question no one can answer, it was a good question.
Ponder.

After you lied about me, I'm not answering another comment from you.

Does that make you a liar ?
Go ahead and answer that one.
Oh dang. Direct question. We’ll never get an answer.

But isn’t lying a sin ?
Or you can Umni it and just say you changed your mind.

Goal post moved !
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aieahound

Re: Religion
« Reply #211 on: September 10, 2021, 08:33:10 PM »
What makes a person religious ?
Thinking about it:
What makes a person religious in the eyes of the religion?
What makes a person religious in their own eyes ?
If you kill someone intentionally but later accept Jesus or Mohammed or whoever are you later absolved if you confess your sins?
Edit: or rape a kid or whatever heinous act.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Religion
« Reply #212 on: September 10, 2021, 08:50:15 PM »
Stop replying.
It wouldn’t be trolling.

If you ask a question no one can answer, it was a good question.
Ponder.

Does that make you a liar ?
Go ahead and answer that one.
Oh dang. Direct question. We’ll never get an answer.

But isn’t lying a sin ?
Or you can Umni it and just say you changed your mind.

Goal post moved !

I'm just feeding the troll so everyone else can see what an AHole you are.

Nothing more.

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Religion
« Reply #213 on: September 10, 2021, 09:55:40 PM »
After you lied about me, I'm not answering another comment from you.

Does that make you a liar ?
Going to Hell or just four Our Fathers ?
Religious?
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Religion
« Reply #214 on: September 10, 2021, 11:19:54 PM »
Interesting points.   Suicide would be good for natural selection.  The weak killing themselves off.  So that point doesn't really work.   As for conflicting beliefs that does hold weight. But what if neither side has to be correct.   If both only judged with science one "society" will have the most success. The one with rape and murder is most likely to end itself and the one without will "win". And that can define the rules and laws.   Which would end up being science based.   Animals have no morals yet they have "rules" that they follow.

Sure, you could use science to determine what values lead to a society to have the most "success" but it can never establish something as right or wrong. You could say that rape doesn't lead to a successful society but you can't argue that rape is bad. You can't even prove why we should aim for a "successful" society.

changemyoil66

Re: Religion
« Reply #215 on: September 11, 2021, 12:14:06 AM »


Sure, you could use science to determine what values lead to a society to have the most "success" but it can never establish something as right or wrong. You could say that rape doesn't lead to a successful society but you can't argue that rape is bad. You can't even prove why we should aim for a "successful" society.

What if someone uses faulty science or doesnt understand what the science is saying? Can they still use it to determine their values/morals/ethics?

Then should 1 correct their beliefs once shown their understanding of what the science is stating is wrong? And what if theyre still too dumb to understand?

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hvybarrels

Re: Religion
« Reply #216 on: September 11, 2021, 04:06:58 AM »
Science is a method, but some morons insist on treating it like a kind of sentient being with all the answers. The Fundamentalist Materialists who worship it are just another religious cult who act like they are better than the others, which makes them far more delusional and annoying than most.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

omnigun

Re: Religion
« Reply #217 on: September 11, 2021, 07:57:53 AM »
Sure, you could use science to determine what values lead to a society to have the most "success" but it can never establish something as right or wrong. You could say that rape doesn't lead to a successful society but you can't argue that rape is bad. You can't even prove why we should aim for a "successful" society.

Why do you need to know if something is right or wrong.   Thats the question.   Does that matter?   As for a successful society,  evolution and natural selection will "aim" for that regardless.   Theres no need to "try".  It will happen over time.   

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Religion
« Reply #218 on: September 11, 2021, 12:10:26 PM »
Why do you need to know if something is right or wrong.   Thats the question.   Does that matter?   As for a successful society,  evolution and natural selection will "aim" for that regardless.   Theres no need to "try".  It will happen over time.

Lawyers have the training and ability to argue either side of a case and win regardless of the truth.

I can see how the lawyers that raised you set you adrift in the sea of life without a compass to guide you.  To you, everything is "gray area", because you don't have a moral foundation upon which to build your judgements.

In your world, right and wrong are determined by whoever makes the most convincing case to you.  And your anti-religion bias ensures that anyone offering an argument based on their values of right and wrong will be dismiss out of hand while you accuse them of shoving their religion down your throat.

Nobody can convince you you're wrong, because you refuse to entertain the possibility that someone who believes in God can ever be right.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Religion
« Reply #219 on: September 11, 2021, 03:19:50 PM »
I can see how the lawyers that raised you set you adrift in the sea of life without a compass to guide you.  To you, everything is "gray area", because you don't have a moral foundation upon which to build your judgements.

In your world, right and wrong are determined by whoever makes the most convincing case to you.  And your anti-religion bias ensures that anyone offering an argument based on their values of right and wrong will be dismiss out of hand while you accuse them of shoving their religion down your throat.

Nobody can convince you you're wrong, because you refuse to entertain the possibility that someone who believes in God can ever be right.
Wow. You post like you actually know him.
Do you ?
And how can anyone be right or wrong in a religion thread ?

Except….science determining values is malarkey, in my opinion.
Just look at nature.
But science is not religion. Hopefully folks don’t elevate it to such because it changes all the time.

Courtesy is a dying art.