so now you are saying morals = laws?
goalposts are moved again...

No the post was referring in reference of the religious imparting religion on the government.


But also yes to answer your question, most morals are laws.

so now you are saying morals = laws?
goalposts are moved again...

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee!

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Who’s the subject matter experts on the science of morals ?
And what did they find our morals should be?

Rape. Good for procreation?
Murder. Good for population control?
Robbery/stealing. Good. Re-distributes wealth?
Incest. OK once, maybe twice, but too many generations bad as in-breeding ? 
Etc.

He means his "experts" that he believes in. All others are wrong.

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Never got to my piece de resistance. . . I was gearing up for it, even with tweedle dee (CMO) and tweedle dum (macsak) distracting me. . . 

Things 1 & 2! Would that make you the cat in the hat?

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Have you seen the laws?  The official government things that has the word "god" in it.

Hawaii's State Constitution never mentions God.  It's the only state that does not.  Hawaii’s constitution makes reference to the divine only in its preamble, which states that the people of Hawaii are “grateful for Divine Guidance.”

The US Constitution does not mention God.  It only mentions religion in the First Amendment, and that reference includes the restriction on the state of establishing a religion or making religion a requirement for holding office.  The Declaration of Independence does refer to our Creator, but that could be interpreted to mean whatever you think of as your Creator, including Nature or whatever else (Could it be ...... Satan?).

So, which "government things" that apply to Hawaii "has the word 'god'" in them?

Don't include things like "In God We Trust" on our money.  That's not an official policy or law.  It's just artwork -- a slogan.

Hawaii's State Constitution never mentions God.  It's the only state that does not.  Hawaii’s constitution makes reference to the divine only in its preamble, which states that the people of Hawaii are “grateful for Divine Guidance.”

The US Constitution does not mention God.  It only mentions religion in the First Amendment, and that reference includes the restriction on the state of establishing a religion or making religion a requirement for holding office.  It does refer to our Creator, but that could be interpreted to mean whatever you think of as your Creator, including Nature or whatever else (Could it be ...... Satan?).

So, which "government things" that apply to Hawaii "has the word 'god'" in them?

Don't include things like "In God We Trust" on our money.  That's not an official policy or law.  It's just artwork -- a slogan.

If the federal reserve is not owned by the government, they printing god on money is ok right?

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big fish, small pond...

Reminds me of that Robby Benson movie long ago: "One on One" with Annette O'Toole.

Poor F**ker thought he was badass until he came across the big leagues......

No the post was referring in reference of the religious imparting religion on the government.


But also yes to answer your question, most morals are laws.

in your opinion? or is this consensus?
proven in a court of law?

If the federal reserve is not owned by the government, they printing god on money is ok right?

In God we trust.
Everyone else Cash.

Hawaii's State Constitution never mentions God.  It's the only state that does not.  Hawaii’s constitution makes reference to the divine only in its preamble, which states that the people of Hawaii are “grateful for Divine Guidance.”

The US Constitution does not mention God.  It only mentions religion in the First Amendment, and that reference includes the restriction on the state of establishing a religion or making religion a requirement for holding office.  It does refer to our Creator, but that could be interpreted to mean whatever you think of as your Creator, including Nature or whatever else (Could it be ...... Satan?).

So, which "government things" that apply to Hawaii "has the word 'god'" in them?

Don't include things like "In God We Trust" on our money.  That's not an official policy or law.  It's just artwork -- a slogan.

I say "swear to God" quite often.  Does that make me religious?  Or uh. . . nvm.  Don't want to get struck by lightning. . .

I say "swear to God" quite often.  Does that make me religious?  Or uh. . . nvm.  Don't want to get struck by lightning. . .

Made many chicks call to god. Does that make me a pastor?

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St. Peter Penus ?
We’re there any miracles ?

Made many chicks call to god. Does that make me a pastor?

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oh god, please let this be over quickly!
thank you god!

Made many chicks call to god. Does that make me a pastor?

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Did you notice their “bored face” 

 

“Thank you Lord for the waitress in South Bend. You know the one, she kept calling your name.” 

Relevant stuff starts at 26min

The Declaration states that the people have God-given rights and that a form of government that becomes tyrannical can be altered or abolished.

The court system uses a God reference.   I think becoming president too. Swearing on them bibles.

The Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

To mention some.   You already said most states and technically all mention God or a creator.   FYI creator for a non religious person, would be what?   Their parents?

I don't think there is truly such thing as basic morals.  Religion encouraged immoral actions in the past.  Some encourage it now in the present. 

How would you make the argument that what a religion did was immoral from a basis where real morals cannot exist. It becomes a self defeating argument.

Now to your question about how do we know what are the true moral values; that is a very hard question BUT that does not have a bearing on whether true moral values exist. They can escape our full understanding and yet be real.

The Declaration states that the people have God-given rights and that a form of government that becomes tyrannical can be altered or abolished.

The court system uses a God reference.   I think becoming president too. Swearing on them bibles.

The Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

To mention some.   You already said most states and technically all mention God or a creator.   FYI creator for a non religious person, would be what?   Their parents?

Please show where The Declaration of Independence uses the phrase "God-given."

Please show where the Declaration of Independence is used as the basis for a single law -- Federal, state or local.

Using the term "In the year of our Lord" has zero to do with any religious application in government.

The phrase “in the year of our lord” is a translation of the Medieval Latin Anno Domini, which
means “in the year of the lord.” If you want to say “in the year of our lord,” it would be Anno
Domini Nostri. The full original phrase is Anno Domini Nostri Jesu Christi", which translates
to "in the year of our Lord Jesus Christ".

This calendar era used in both the Gregorian and Julian calendars is based on the traditionally
reckoned year of the conception or birth of Jesus of Nazareth, with AD counting years from the
start of this epoch, and BC denoting years before the start of the era. There is no year zero in
this scheme, so the year AD 1 immediately follows the year 1 BC. This dating system was devised
in 525 by Dionysius Exiguus of Scythia Minor. It came into wide usage after the year 800.

The year 2021 AD is literally saying "In the year of the Lord."  This has absolutely nothing to do with government, and everything to do with how the people devising the modern calendar annotated the years.

I bet you used that abbreviation more than once, but you had no idea what AD actually means.

I asked how any of what I listed affected HAWAII.  Other state's Constitutions don't have anything to do with our laws, nor with the federal laws that affect this state.

Please show where The Declaration of Independence uses the phrase "God-given."

Please show where the Declaration of Independence is used as the basis for a single law -- Federal, state or local.

Using the term "In the year of our Lord" has zero to do with any religious application in government.

The year 2021 AD is literally saying "In the year of the Lord."  This has absolutely nothing to do with government, and everything to do with how the people devising the modern calendar annotated the years.

I bet you used that abbreviation more than once, but you had no idea what AD actually means.

I asked how any of what I listed affected HAWAII.  Other state's Constitutions don't have anything to do with our laws, nor with the federal laws that affect this state.

Basically another omni type reply. Posted unrelated stuff to the question so he is not wrong in his mind.

Ask question/state A.
Omni replies with "water is wet".


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Basically another omni type reply. Posted unrelated stuff to the question so he is not wrong in his mind.

Ask question/state A.
Omni replies with "water is wet".

He is like most Millennial know-it-alls.  They think they know the Declaration of Independence and Constitution because they had a test in school, but they can't isolate which parts belong to which document, nor understand the full context of each segment because they are too focused on the "offensive religious" words that trigger them.

It's sad.  This is how the nation ends.  Our anti-American education system wants to program these Lemmings to follow the Liberal-Socialist-Progressive ideology.