have you read how long they have been working on mRNA vaccines and the previous success rate?
have you read what happened when they actually tried to use an mRNA vaccine?

These are not rhetorical. Please look it up and u will understand my replies to u.

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I consider the videos and interviews from reputable sources to be as reliable as "studies" when it comes to human behavior.

One such report etched in my mind was when a reporter asked several people at the Democrat National Convention in North Carolina if the Democrat platform was one of tolerance, acceptance and inclusion.  Everyone was like, "Of course!  We welcome everyone no matter your race, sexual orientation, religious beliefs or any other trait that defines you!"

Then the question was asked, "What about Republicans?  You know, the GOP?  Are they welcome in the party?"

Answers were all similar:  "Oh, no.  They aren't as tolerant and open minded as we are.  We just don't need them in our party."

After repeating the questions and answers to the respondents several times, the light bulbs eventually clicked on, and they realized that their tolerance and inclusiveness were not as broad as they believed.

This is how I predict many of the respondents to "studies" act.  They SAY the things they THINK they believe, and the traits the testers look for are based on self-assessment questionnaires. 

I'm not trying to say there are existing studies that are better.  I'm simply pointing out that the usefulness of the studies you posted are easily disproven with mere observation and simple analysis.

The "stereotype" is that Conservatives are homophobic and racist, yet some of the most hatefully racist and gay-bashing people I know are Liberals.  Somehow, these people (some, not all) believe if they join the right tribe, they can do and say whatever they want as long as "the wrong people" aren't listening.  Several hot mic statements by prominent Liberals and their supporters come to mind.

When many vids are posted of various gatherings of both sides, 1 can make an educated guess which side is more tolerant.

Unless people dont watch these vids, then i guess u will believe the stories that the fake news airs.

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Historically, the vast majority of complications from vaccinations happen relatively quickly after the vaccine is administered. The chance that there is some serious complication that is going to come out a year, 5 years, 10 years from now is exceedingly remote going by the data. I also think that medicine has advanced quite a bit such that based on the ingredients and understanding how biology and chemistry works that scientists have a pretty good idea of the risk levels of new vaccines but I know not everyone has that faith in current science. However I will also admit that I still worry about the potential unknowns of the vaccine I took even though I consider the fear irrational. Given that I totally get why people are hesitant about a new vaccine, it is an understandable reaction.

On that note though, the people who are the test subjects for these vaccines should be given a fair amount of credit. If everyone had the attitude of the vaccine was too new then no one would ever participate in the studies and we would never have new vaccines.

I would be interested if there was a way to study how many people would be vaccinated if mandated vs just educated and encouraged. I feel pretty strongly that there are a lot of people in America who will refuse the vaccine purely on the ground that someone is making them do it. I just don't know whether that amount of people outweigh the number who take it because they don't want to lose their job. I think force was always a bad call. I liked the idea of lotteries, more innovative positive encouragement idea to get people vaccinated.

please show the data that shows this
they unblinded the studies on the vaccines only a few months after initial dosing and gave the placebo group the vaccine, so there is no longer any way to gather data...

please show the data that shows this
they unblinded the studies on the vaccines only a few months after initial dosing and gave the placebo group the vaccine, so there is no longer any way to gather data...

I think I have posted links here before. I am trying to find articles covering this issue but in searching I am just getting stuff specific to covid vaccines.
This article touches on it but it does not go deep into the data. I'll have to keep looking for more in depth data.
https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12143-three-things-to-know-about-the-long-term-side-effects-of-covid-vaccines

As long as there is still an unvaccinated population there is still a way to look at long term effects. Plus if the placebo group wanted to get the real vaccine, should the be denied?

past performance does not guarantee future returns...

Guarantee? No but it serves as a basis for a reasonable risk assessment.

Youre confusing illegal aliens and legal immigration. Conservatives are all for legal immigration. And liberals support illegal immigration. Huge difference.

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I was referencing immigration as a whole, not specifically legal or illegal. You are right conservatives seem to favor legal immigration but on that same line, it is also the liberals who want to provide more assistance and be accommodating to even the legal immigrants where republicans are more likely to want the immigrants to conform to American culture and language.

Except lotteries didnt work. This was covered already.

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What do you mean it doesn't work? It didn't increase participation?

If so that would be a surprise to me but if thats really what the data shows then ok. Regardless I prefer positive incentives.

I consider the videos and interviews from reputable sources to be as reliable as "studies" when it comes to human behavior.

One such report etched in my mind was when a reporter asked several people at the Democrat National Convention in North Carolina if the Democrat platform was one of tolerance, acceptance and inclusion.  Everyone was like, "Of course!  We welcome everyone no matter your race, sexual orientation, religious beliefs or any other trait that defines you!"

Then the question was asked, "What about Republicans?  You know, the GOP?  Are they welcome in the party?"

Answers were all similar:  "Oh, no.  They aren't as tolerant and open minded as we are.  We just don't need them in our party."

After repeating the questions and answers to the respondents several times, the light bulbs eventually clicked on, and they realized that their tolerance and inclusiveness were not as broad as they believed.

This is how I predict many of the respondents to "studies" act.  They SAY the things they THINK they believe, and the traits the testers look for are based on self-assessment questionnaires. 

I'm not trying to say there are existing studies that are better.  I'm simply pointing out that the usefulness of the studies you posted are easily disproven with mere observation and simple analysis.

The "stereotype" is that Conservatives are homophobic and racist, yet some of the most hatefully racist and gay-bashing people I know are Liberals.  Somehow, these people (some, not all) believe if they join the right tribe, they can do and say whatever they want as long as "the wrong people" aren't listening.  Several hot mic statements by prominent Liberals and their supporters come to mind.

You certainly have a point but I think you are focused on a more limited definition of being open minded where as what I was referencing are more broad measures. You have certainly hit upon at least a subset of liberals who are utterly fraudulent in their claims of tolerance. This example I think would be a sort of exception to the rule.

What do you mean it doesn't work? It didn't increase participation?

If so that would be a surprise to me but if thats really what the data shows then ok. Regardless I prefer positive incentives.

Yes, the after studies show it didnt work.

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I was referencing immigration as a whole, not specifically legal or illegal. You are right conservatives seem to favor legal immigration but on that same line, it is also the liberals who want to provide more assistance and be accommodating to even the legal immigrants where republicans are more likely to want the immigrants to conform to American culture and language.

Guess the USA should conform to incoming islam culture? U know women have to cover up, not allowed to work, drive, etc...

Ask Germany how that conformity is working out. If someone comes into a foreign country, they conform to said country, not the other way around. 1 remember when 1 guy who tweets mean things, warnes Germany and other countries about illegals. No one listened. Google "no go zones" in Europe.

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You certainly have a point but I think you are focused on a more limited definition of being open minded where as what I was referencing are more broad measures. You have certainly hit upon at least a subset of liberals who are utterly fraudulent in their claims of tolerance. This example I think would be a sort of exception to the rule.

You have no evidence to support your opinion.

I believe most people, no matter their political affiliation, will lie, obfuscate or sugar coat their opinions, especially if they think the answers will be used to study something like Us vs. Them conclusions.  I also think many who go through Liberal Universities have been conditioned to only speak "approved" thoughts.  What they really think has been replaced with what they are really supposed to think.

Hard to engineer a questionnaire around that.

You have no evidence to support your opinion.

I believe most people, no matter their political affiliation, will lie, obfuscate or sugar coat their opinions, especially if they think the answers will be used to study something like Us vs. Them conclusions.  I also think many who go through Liberal Universities have been conditioned to only speak "approved" thoughts.  What they really think has been replaced with what they are really supposed to think.

Hard to engineer a questionnaire around that.

The problem is if youre caught in a lie and on the left, the fake news has your back. So no biggie.

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You have no evidence to support your opinion.

False. I posted 3 articles to support my statements

I believe most people, no matter their political affiliation, will lie, obfuscate or sugar coat their opinions, especially if they think the answers will be used to study something like Us vs. Them conclusions.  I also think many who go through Liberal Universities have been conditioned to only speak "approved" thoughts.  What they really think has been replaced with what they are really supposed to think.
Hard to engineer a questionnaire around that.

The more contentious the subject the better the survey needs to be designed.

Guess the USA should conform to incoming islam culture? U know women have to cover up, not allowed to work, drive, etc...
Ask Germany how that conformity is working out. If someone comes into a foreign country, they conform to said country, not the other way around. 1 remember when 1 guy who tweets mean things, warnes Germany and other countries about illegals. No one listened. Google "no go zones" in Europe.
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Where did I ever make the case that we (Americans) should conform to immigrating cultures/groups?

Yes, the after studies show it didnt work.

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I will take your word for it. Wouldn't you prefer positive incentives than negative ones though?

Where did I ever make the case that we (Americans) should conform to immigrating cultures/groups?

You didnt. I was making a statement with regard to conforming and accommodating.

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I will take your word for it. Wouldn't you prefer positive incentives than negative ones though?

None, thats the correct actions.

The concept ur missing is this was used to get more people to vaxx. And people claimed it worked. When it didnt work.

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