Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!! (Read 5179 times)

QUIETShooter

Re: Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!!
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2021, 10:08:00 AM »
I'm doing Rocky's Prime Rib method as we speak.  What I'm worrying about is that I have 2 huge prime rib standing roasts together in the oven.  Not sure if this huge mass of meat will skew the math of cooking it.

Never done this method before and looking forward as to how these roasts come out.

Have a Merry Christmas everybody!
« Last Edit: December 26, 2021, 10:32:50 AM by QUIETShooter »
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Rocky

Re: Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!!
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2021, 10:20:42 AM »
I'm doing Rocky's Prime Rib method as we speak.  What I'm worrying about is that I have 2 huge prime rib standing roasts together in the oven.  Not sure if this huge mass of meat will skew the math of cooking it.
Never done this method before and looking forward as to how these roasts come out.
Have a Merry Christmas everybody!
I've never done 2 separate pieces.
If they are similar weight I would GUESS that you would base the resting/cooling  time  on the the weight of a single piece and not the total weight.
If not similar weight, one will be more (or less) cooked than the other depending on which weight you used to figure time of original full force heat, resting/cooling  time would be the same 2 hours.
Definitely would not use the total weight for  full force heat,

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Re: Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!!
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2021, 02:14:45 PM »
I've never done 2 separate pieces.
If they are similar weight I would GUESS that you would base the resting/cooling  time  on the the weight of a single piece and not the total weight.
If not similar weight, one will be more (or less) cooked than the other depending on which weight you used to figure time of original full force heat, resting/cooling  time would be the same 2 hours.
Definitely would not use the total weight for  full force heat,

If you have a meat thermometer handy place it in the center of the meat from the top. Rare is 120, medium rare is 130 and medium is 140. I usually cook by internal temp. Got me two remote meat probes and the result has never failed me. BTW after you remove the roasts, loosely cover them for about 15-20 minutes…
Have a wonderful and hearty Christmas! :shaka:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!!
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2021, 03:17:51 PM »
Since this is now a Christmas Roast thread ....   :thumbsup:

I bought a USDA Prime Grade Prime Rib from Costco -- 5.58 lbs and boneless.

I assaulted it with sea salt and pepper, and let it sit uncovered in the fridge overnight. 

Next morning, took it out to assume room temp before cooking.  Warming it up to room temp can take a couple hours or more.

In the bottom of the roasting pan, I placed LARGE CHUNKS of sweet onion, celery, mushrooms. garlic and carrots.  Also added fresh thyme, red wine (Merlot), and beef stock.  I then rubbed the outside of the roast with a mixture of Extra Virgin Olive Oil (don't skimp on those virgins!), butter, minced fresh garlic, Kosher salt and more fresh ground black pepper and thyme.  I thought about tying the roast with some twine, but it was already pretty uniform in shape.  I'll try that next time to see if there's a difference. 

The roast was placed on top of the veggie "rack" in the roasting pan and placed in a preheated oven at 250°F.

I chose the Reverse Sear method from all the methods I researched.  I've done that with steaks before.  Once the meat is cooked evenly throughout (not so much "gray" around the edges, but medium rare from crust to crust), then you sear if after it rests.

Anyway, I bought a temperature probe set from Amazon that works well.  I set one probe for 117° to give me a little heads- up to get ready, and the other at 120° -- the temp at which I wanted to remove the roast.

When the roast was at 120°, I put it on the counter and draped a sheet of foil over it loosely.  I let it rest for about an hour (recommended to rest 45-90 minutes) to allow the juices to seep throughout the meat.  Actually, I wound up having to let it go beyond that, because the oven was being used for other things.  But, that's fine. 

The last step was to remove the probes and foil, and heat the oven to 500° -- or however high yours can go.  Once it was hot, I place the roast on a wire rack in another pan, and let it sear for 10 minutes.  15 minutes is the max you should allow it to sear, but 10 minutes at 500° was perfect to create that crispy crust.

While the roast rested, I made the au jus from the drippings and liquid in the bottom of the roasting pan.  I scoop out the veggie remains, sifted the juice through a strainer, and let it sit until the fat rose to the top.  I used a large freezer ziploc to hold the liquid and put it in the fridge for a few minutes.  The fat rose and congealed.  I snipped one corner of the bag, and drained the de-fatted liquid into a bowl.  I put the fat in a skillet with some flour.  Cooked and stirred that for 3 minutes, then gradually added back the juice a little at a time, bringing it to a boil, then adding more juice.  Cook that for about 10 minutes after all the juice is added.  It'll reduce the wine and blend all the flavors.

I also made some horseradish sauce from sour cream, horseradish (duh), and small parts vinegar, Worchestershire, brown mustard and fresh chives.  I did that the day before.  You need to let it sit in the fridge for about an hour after making anyway, so I did it way ahead to get it out of the way.

Once the roast is seared, it's ready to carve.  Let it cool for a minute, so you aren't touching a 500° piece of meat!  No need to let it rest -- that was done before the searing.  The only part of the roast actually cooked in the final step is the outer crust.

During resting, I left the probes connected to the thermometer.  Both probes about 4 inches apart rose to exactly 136°F while resting outside the oven -- from a temp of 120° when removed.  That's exactly what I was shooting for.  It's just on border between medium-rare and medium -- as requested by my daughter.  Medium-rare is 130°-135° in most charts I've seen.

Doing the reverse sear worked great.  There is the seared crust, then about 1/8th inch of medium, and the entire inside was an even medium-rare.

My son-in-law and daughter both said the crust was outstanding with lots of delicious but not overwhelming flavors.

And my SIL also said the au jus was better than any he's had in restaurants.

The number one thing I think is important is the temperature probes.  Time estimates are okay, but for a cut of meat this expensive, it's better to know exactly when the temperature reaches the cutoff.  Overcooking would be a major disappointment.

Having said all of that about reverse sear, if you're feeding people who are wanting a range of medium-rare to medium-well, then regular searing at the start might be the better method, so there's some "more cooked" meat at the edges.

Because this was my first Prime Rib, I wanted to do a good job.  I watched SO MANY videos.  That's how I learned to reverse sear steaks -- by cooking them on the stove top at low temp, then searing them in the oven on high temp.  A cast iron skillet is a must-have.
« Last Edit: December 25, 2021, 03:26:54 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
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Heavies

Re: Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!!
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2021, 04:27:32 PM »
Easiest and best roast method I’ve ever tried.
Came out perfect and super easy.

“Set it and forget it…”.

Wow

QUIETShooter

Re: Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!!
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2021, 10:38:35 AM »
I'm doing Rocky's Prime Rib method as we speak.  What I'm worrying about is that I have 2 huge prime rib standing roasts together in the oven.  Not sure if this huge mass of meat will skew the math of cooking it.

Never done this method before and looking forward as to how these roasts come out.

Have a Merry Christmas everybody!

Just wanted to re-cap how my 2 roasts ended up.  It came out wonderful.  Yeah, one of the roasts was close to 2 lbs smaller than the other one.  So the smaller one ended up medium/well and the larger one was a tad past medium rare.

Which is great because the majority of my family likes medium and (gasp, blasphemy!) well done.

Next time I will try Flapps method because I personally love it more on the rare side! :shaka:
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aletheuo137

Re: Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!!
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2021, 01:27:07 PM »
"I'm doing Rocky's Prime Rib method"

Can you smell what the Rock is cooking?

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Rocky

Re: Mele Kalikimaka and Merry Christmas To All of You!!!
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2021, 07:24:56 PM »
Roast at 550°F at 5 minutes per pound for RARE,
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