Prey - Predator 5 trailer (Read 10106 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2022, 03:44:34 PM »
I think the mud scene marked the beginning of his transformation. Before that he was used to being the strongest human with the biggest guns and toughest buddies, dominating everything in his path. The predator knocked him off the top of the food chain, came extremely close killing him in the process, and even though the mud was an accident it made him realize that he was no longer in a jungle war with conventional weapons but just another helpless animal in a primordial fight for survival.  He had to throw out his usual tactics, completely change his strategy, and as a result he went from being a quivering side of beef to one of the few creatures in the galaxy who actually took down a Predator. That's way more inspiring than anything that happened in the sequels.

Why was I expecting to see the word "imperial" as I read through that?

 :geekdanc:

Danny Glover did it better in the sequel.  Regular guy (Cop) able to win respect from the alien predators on the ship.  No mud-bath needed.   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:  He simply managed to get his hands on some alien tech.

The first movie should be re-titled: Predator vs. Terminator   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2022, 05:39:42 PM »
Like that Liberty Mutual commercial  :rofl:
We had a saying in High School, "only in the movies!"

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hvybarrels

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2022, 08:06:48 PM »
Danny Glover did it better in the sequel.  Regular guy (Cop) able to win respect from the alien predators on the ship.  No mud-bath needed.   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:  He simply managed to get his hands on some alien tech.

Those evil Jamaicans were a lot of fun.

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hvybarrels

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2022, 11:48:35 PM »
Here's a fan film some local guys put together a while back. Pretty good quality for $500.

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hvybarrels

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2022, 12:22:00 AM »
Why was I expecting to see the word "imperial" as I read through that?

Thanks for the reminder. Recent events got me tense and sometimes I need to dial it back.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2022, 01:58:36 AM »
Well, after watching Predator for the ump-teenth time tonight, I decided to put way more thought into the lead character than all my other viewings combined!

I don't think there was a "transformation."  What I saw was a soldier with skills, talent, training, experience and extreme physical conditioning who brought all that to bear on his situation.

Sure, the traps and weapons he built were "Boy Scout shit" (according to Carl/Dillon), but from the time they lost their first teammate, Arnold began receiving and gather clues about the enemy's capabilities and limitations.  Without dissecting all the scenes and dialogue, he learned:

1.  It uses camouflage similar to a chameleon.
2.  It bleeds, so it can be killed.  He also knows what that blood looks like.
3.  It hunts for sport, which is why it didn't kill Anna who was unarmed.
4.  In Anna's village, in the years when it was very hot, the men would be skinned or worse, that this thing hunts humans and has done so for a long time.
5.  It can see their trip wires, but can't easily see traps and triggers made of rope, vines, limbs and rocks.
6.  It uses the trees to gain the "high ground" advantage, and can travel through them to avoid trip wires.
7.  It has advanced energy weapons that use laser sighting (the Predator shot at an animal in a tree stump while Arnold was watching -- right after he first got muddied up).
8.  It could not see him with the mud on him, which indicated its vision was heat-based -- probably in the infrared spectrum.
9.  The camouflage capability could be interrupted, like it was from it falling in the water.

He then decided to make the big tree in front of him his base where he would set traps and areas that would make it easier to see it.  This way he gained the home field advantage -- let the hunter come to him.  He also used vines so he could take the high ground.  He used fire and more mud bathing to "blind" it.  He was without his normal weapons, but had his knife and some rifle launched grenades.  He used the gunpowder to make exploding devices: arrows, spears and a "grenade pouch" around his neck.  Luckily he also had some stick matches.  He was very resourceful, which indicates a lot of time spent in survival training and practicing it in real life.

A lot of the traps were designed as anti-personnel contraptions.  I'm sure they were a combination of survival know-how for finding food as well as devices used in jungle warfare throughout history:  pits with punji sticks, large snares to toss you into pointy branches, etc.

I think this all falls under the category of "improvise - adapt - overcome."  He was able to gather some intel on his enemy, through necessity and his previous success of using natural resources for traps.  After analyzing the enemy's strengths and weaknesses, he was able to apply that knowledge and his skills to gain an advantage.

Much of this is within the wheelhouse of a soldier's knowledge, not that of a game hunter.  Although the two worlds overlap, hunters are not often busy trying to survive attacks from the very animals they are trying to hunt. 

All in all, I think the musical score "makes" the movie.  Reminds me a little of the score behind the Eastwood western, "Hang 'em High."

I did learn something new I never noticed before.  The same actor, Kevin Peter Hall, played both the Predator as well as the helicopter pilot flying the chopper coming back for Arnold.  He looks out at the mushroom cloud and says, "What the ... ?"    :geekdanc:

I learned most of my wilderness survival skills from my Scout Master, who happened to be a former Green Beret.  Go figure.   :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2022, 03:18:03 AM »
Is she john wick or something? Took Arnold and a whole squad to take out one predator and they had machine guns.

For my money, predator 2 was the best predator movie

stangzilla

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2022, 07:31:02 AM »
Jesse Ventura was the real star of the movie


drck1000

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2022, 07:38:48 AM »
Jesse Ventura was the real star of the movie

"Goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus, just like me"

 ;D

That mini-gun tho. . . brrrrrrtttt!

stangzilla

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2022, 07:51:02 AM »
Jesse Ventura was the real star of the movie




before he was a professional wrestler, he was in the Navy in the UDT,  underwater demolition team.  I'm sure many of us know this already

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2022, 01:07:55 PM »
before he was a professional wrestler, he was in the Navy in the UDT,  underwater demolition team.  I'm sure many of us know this already

Yeah.  That came out when he sued a dead hero's widow for words he'd published.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2022, 01:10:49 PM »
I kinda forget how the movie went but was it the black guy (not the Apollo Creed guy) that grabbed the mini-gun after Jesse got popped by the alien and then he cut loose with the gun, just firing wildly into the jungle.

After the gun ran out of ammo, all you can hear is the electric motor running as it continued to cycle the action.  In front of them was a complete swath of jungle mowed down by the devastating fire.

One of my favorite scenes in the movie!! :thumbsup:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2022, 01:18:15 PM »
I kinda forget how the movie went but was it the black guy (not the Apollo Creed guy) that grabbed the mini-gun after Jesse got popped by the alien and then he cut loose with the gun, just firing wildly into the jungle.

After the gun ran out of ammo, all you can hear is the electric motor running as it continued to cycle the action.  In front of them was a complete swath of jungle mowed down by the devastating fire.

One of my favorite scenes in the movie!! :thumbsup:

Blain's (Ventura's) friend was Mac -- the bald Black guy who kept shaving with a disposable razor.

Mac picked up Blain's gun and shot at the Predator, wounding it.  He wasn't the only one.  As the others ran to help, they, too, started firing bullets, grenades and whatever else they had in the same direction.

I think Mac exhausted all the ammo for that gun so his ass wouldn't have to lug it through the jungle!

Just a theory...   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2022, 01:59:25 PM »
Blain's (Ventura's) friend was Mac -- the bald Black guy who kept shaving with a disposable razor.

Mac picked up Blain's gun and shot at the Predator, wounding it.  He wasn't the only one.  As the others ran to help, they, too, started firing bullets, grenades and whatever else they had in the same direction.



Thanks for the re-cap, I remember now! :thumbsup:  Makes me wanna watch the movie again.  Yeah, that guy Mac was the coolest character in the movie imo, lol!



I think Mac exhausted all the ammo for that gun so his ass wouldn't have to lug it through the jungle!

Just a theory...   :rofl:

Yeah, I wouldn't blame him! :rofl:  I wonder how heavy that thing is, not to mention the ammo.  It looks clearly like 4 to 5 times heavier than the M-60 we used to lug around back then.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

stangzilla

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2022, 03:06:18 PM »
Yeah.  That came out when he sued a dead hero's widow for words he'd published.

yeah, that wasn't a good thing to do

hvybarrels

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2022, 03:55:00 PM »
Ventura won a libel case, which means there were obvious lies about him in the book. The insurance company for the publisher was the one who lost the lawsuit. The wife had nothing to do with it.

Edit: I'm doing it again, aren't I?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2022, 04:17:00 PM »
Ventura won a libel case, which means there were obvious lies about him in the book. The insurance company for the publisher was the one who lost the lawsuit. The wife had nothing to do with it.

Still, it seemed petty on his part. 

I guess once you've been a professional wrestler, state governor and celebrated conspiracy theorist, taking the high road is no longer an option.

 :geekdanc: :shaka:

God forbid anyone tarnish such a stellar resume.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2022, 08:06:18 PM »
celebrated conspiracy theorist

Haven't you noticed over the past couple years most of that "conspiracy" stuff came true?

Ventura was the target of a deep state smear campaign because he spoke out against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The people who put him in power wanted another Ahnold "screw your freedom" Schwarzenegger and were very disappointed.

These swamp creatures carry over from each administration (party doesn't matter) and are the same ones who went after Trump. Cancel culture was actually started by the Bush adminstration after 9/11, but back then they called it the Patriot Act.

Chris Kyle was very good at his job and saved countless lives, but he was clearly part of a propaganda campaign and it begs the question what else in his memoirs was fabricated.

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stangzilla

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2022, 05:13:48 PM »
movie is getting good reviews
I'll try watch it this weekend


passivekinetic

Re: Prey - Predator 5 trailer
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2022, 01:42:42 PM »
Holy smokes you guys wrote a ton about Predator LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I think I rewatched ALIENS more times.

If anyone has not watched the extended uncut version of ALIENS, there are some interesting backstories, and more footage of the automated defense turrets (which is no longer science fiction nowadays).
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