Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy (Read 21144 times)

ren

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2022, 01:42:39 PM »
and another threat to democracy by this thing from Cali

https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/06/the-hell-with-the-scotus-maxine-waters-says-pro-aborts-will-fight-in-the-streets-after-abortion-ruling/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-hell-with-the-scotus-maxine-waters-says-pro-aborts-will-fight-in-the-streets-after-abortion-ruling

‘The Hell With the SCOTUS’: Maxine Waters Says Pro-Aborts Will ‘Fight in the Streets’ After Abortion Ruling

“The hell with the Supreme Court. We will defy them. Women will be in control of their bodies. And if they think black women are intimidated or afraid, they got another thought coming,” Waters stated. “We are going to make sure we fight for the right to control our own bodies.”
Deeds Not Words

ren

Deeds Not Words

DocMercy

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2022, 04:32:58 PM »
There are a lot of hot heads on both sides of the political spectrum. But I have never heard of someone who would actually threaten to kill the Vice President, not to mention, being within 40 ft intent on carrying out that wish.



The apologists will tell you that witness 1 (W1) does not exist. See no evil, hear no evil, and deny facts that will go down in history as true.
Any movement that would purge its own leaders is a very dangerous one. Why bother joining if you can be taken out on a whim?

hvybarrels

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2022, 05:38:47 PM »
Wow the trial sure took a really interesting turn when they called Hanover Fiste.

Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2022, 06:18:00 PM »
Whataboutism is all you have?  The whole term Trump was in office he could have denied that claim for executive privilege. That fact that he did not makes me reason that that claim for executive privilege was valid. Trump appeared to have control of the DOJ for 4 years.

That's a completely separate unrelated investigation that you and your representatives are free to pursue.
Swoooooossshhh

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aletheuo137

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2022, 07:36:40 AM »
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2022, 11:33:30 PM »
U mean how much feelings and double standards comes forward. FIFY.

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That problems exist on both sides. Both sides have their feelings and emotions, they just try to rationalize it to make it seem reasoned out.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2022, 11:35:00 PM »
You know you guys are on the watch list with the rest of us, right?

There's no special exemption for "partially dangerous" or "mildly radical"

Haha. I am alt-middle, a hardcore moderate. Come get me FBI dirtbags!

changemyoil66

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2022, 09:25:55 AM »
That problems exist on both sides. Both sides have their feelings and emotions, they just try to rationalize it to make it seem reasoned out.

1 side relies on it way more than the other.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2022, 09:26:49 AM »
Haha. I am alt-middle, a hardcore moderate. Come get me FBI dirtbags!

At least you are in RAPBACk. Unlike the rest of the civilian gun owners in HI who had to pay $47.50 and none are enrolled.  Per the FBI's statement.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2022, 10:15:16 PM »
1 side relies on it way more than the other.

They say the same thing about us too.

It has been demonstrated in quite a few studies. We (humans) think we are rational beings but emoitions, social pressures, etc all draw us one way and more often than not our rational side just ends up rationalizing our decision even when it is provably wrong. We (humans) choose loyalty, ideals of fairness, and other social pressures over fact all the time.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2022, 10:30:24 PM »
They say the same thing about us too.

It has been demonstrated in quite a few studies. We (humans) think we are rational beings but emoitions, social pressures, etc all draw us one way and more often than not our rational side just ends up rationalizing our decision even when it is provably wrong. We (humans) choose loyalty, ideals of fairness, and other social pressures over fact all the time.
Read my post again and then ur reply.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2022, 11:09:04 PM »
Read my post again and then ur reply.

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Yeah, I am saying you are wrong.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2022, 08:26:47 AM »
Yeah, I am saying you are wrong.

1 side is more often right than the other. This might be a swwooooooooss...haven't decided yet.

drck1000

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2022, 10:33:00 AM »
1 side is more often right than the other. This might be a swwooooooooss...haven't decided yet.
So 93% of a swwoooooooossh?  :rofl:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2022, 11:18:01 AM »
1 side is more often right than the other. This might be a swwooooooooss...haven't decided yet.

He only believes in absolutes.  Being right substantially more often doesn't hold any meaning for him, because it's more fun to pretend both sides are equally wrong. 

Refusing to see the facts is a great way to start "thought experiments."

He's intentionally arguing just for the fun of it.  It's hard to make the case the Biden administration is better than Trump's 4 years when you consider things that matter:  Supreme Court appointments (Yay, 2A!), gun rights, abortion, foreign wars, energy policy, prices of everything/inflation, "Liberal World Order" agenda, EPA and other agency overreach, corrupt dealings with foreign powers (Hunter & Biden), and so forth.

I think Biden is on track to be worse than Obama, who was arguably worse than Carter.  That's a very difficult bar to reach, but both have been determined.

So, yes.  You're right about which way the results favor the Right/GOP.  In the case of the hearings, the Dems stacked the evidence as they wanted, and it still stinks.

And it's not a question of whether the 2 agents who were actually in the car with Trump are lying.  It's about those and others who have disputed her testimony.  That means at least 4 other people are lying, and she's the only one telling the truth.  Doesn't hold water, especially when she was not there.

When you testify under oath and promise to tell the truth, and then you pass off a bunch of hearsay and rumors you heard as "the truth", it doesn't matter if you believed it or not.  What matters is that the committee trotted her out there to spread those smears against Trump officially and on national TV.

I give that woman zero weight when it comes to divining the truth.  Anyone who says difference is likely a DTS suffer, willing to compromise logic, reasoning and facts in favor of bias confirmation.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #56 on: July 07, 2022, 11:35:18 AM »
The Jan. 6 Commission threw a bombshell saying they will reveal a witness that will show, without a reasonable doubt, that Trump willfully planned and encouraged an insurrection blah blah blah........

Then this bombshell witness ends up being a WH aide with "hearsay" evidence and wasn't even there.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Such a sad state of affairs yet it's quite hilarious.

The clear and present danger to Democracy is clearly NOT Trump and his supporters.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #57 on: July 07, 2022, 11:37:00 AM »
He only believes in absolutes.  Being right substantially more often doesn't hold any meaning for him, because it's more fun to pretend both sides are equally wrong. 

Refusing to see the facts is a great way to start "thought experiments."

He's intentionally arguing just for the fun of it. 

This is why I don't get into it much with him. Then he uses the "you have no evidence to support your claim" to try to bait you in. A swooosh or like reply is enough.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #58 on: July 07, 2022, 11:37:49 AM »
The Jan. 6 Commission threw a bombshell saying they will reveal a witness that will show, without a reasonable doubt, that Trump willfully planned and encouraged an insurrection blah blah blah........

Then this bombshell witness ends up being a WH aide with "hearsay" evidence and wasn't even there.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Such a sad state of affairs yet it's quite hilarious.

The clear and present danger to Democracy is clearly NOT Trump and his supporters.

It's not like these types of politicians or the fake news has lied to us before right?  So we had every reason to believe when they say they have a bombshell witness. (Sarcasm)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump and supporters are clear and present danger to democracy
« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2022, 11:45:13 AM »
This is why I don't get into it much with him. Then he uses the "you have no evidence to support your claim" to try to bait you in. A swooosh or like reply is enough.

I have him on "ignore."  I only chimed in because his comments were included in replies.

He can pound sand if he tries to bait me.  I've grown tired of his usual posts -- personal opinion ineptly disguised as fact and the continued argumentative comments, such as saying someone is wrong without any evidence he's right.

He believes he's the arbiter of truth and fact, when he's just as clueless as the rest of the Liberals who still trust Democrats in government and the mainstream press, but that's redundant.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw