tues march 26, 8:40 am
no line!!!
just two bummed out guys walking down the steps with a long gun box
i hope that wasn't anyone here
have a great kuhio day holiday, everyone

When I drove by this morning around 6 am and I saw no line, I was like "that's awesome!  Things are getting back to pre-craze conditions".  Then I remembered that today was Kuhio Day and the office is closed.   

How's the line this morning?

How's the line this morning?

There's about 20 guys in line now @ 6:30

There's about 20 guys in line now @ 6:30

Mahalo for update

Thinking of going down soon....any updates on how long the line is?

Thinking of going down soon....any updates on how long the line is?

UPDATE:  got there around 10am. 25+ people in line!  Not including the people inside the door!  I said forget it!  Come back another day!

Terrible... I need to go back for the third "official" time, realistically it will be my 6th.

Arrived and walked in the door at. 2.58.  Locked 2 min later. 10 or 12 ahead of me.

Follow up:

About 3.30 the officers came out for those of us who were waiting to apply for permits.  He took our receipts went back and came back with all the paperwork for us to fill out.   Line was completely cleared and finished by 3.50.

This was my biggest pet peeve! Every person in line can do the 10 minutes of paperwork while standing in line.  Just hand it in at the end and get the stamps/signatures/etc. Ridiculous!!!

This was my biggest pet peeve! Every person in line can do the 10 minutes of paperwork while standing in line.  Just hand it in at the end and get the stamps/signatures/etc. Ridiculous!!!

FYI - I heard the officer tell 2 people that they need to keep track of the forms they hand out so it's only handed out to people who get to the window....


try and ask them why they need to track the papers being handed out..... everyone would love to here the answer....

It's obvious they don't want to speed things up - unless it's to beat the quitting time clock. 

It's a great idea to pass out the paperwork in advance. Applicants can bring their own clipboards and black pens.

But, they don't want to because they don't really want to make it any easier for the applicants. Again, why make it easier to get a gun when they don't really approve of armed citizens?

Or, is it a trust issue in that it makes it easier for people to write so-so info on the forms? If so, the officers passing out the paperwork can remind people that giving false information is a crime.

FYI - I heard the officer tell 2 people that they need to keep track of the forms they hand out so it's only handed out to people who get to the window....


try and ask them why they need to track the papers being handed out..... everyone would love to here the answer....

In line at 11:20am, about 50 people In front of me not including people inside of building.
Pouring rain.

FYI - I heard the officer tell 2 people that they need to keep track of the forms they hand out so it's only handed out to people who get to the window....


try and ask them why they need to track the papers being handed out..... everyone would love to here the answer....

Hopefully this is the start of a "GOOD" thing to come. Hopefully people can chime in to let us know today's experience

In line at 11:20am, about 50 people In front of me not including people inside of building.
Pouring rain.

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people, just just stop registering. It's not going to solve any crime, only let them know what you own. 

In line at 11:20am, about 50 people In front of me not including people inside of building.
Pouring rain.

WTF!  Don't people work?  LOL!  We need to flood the Mayor's email with our concerns!

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people, just just stop registering. It's not going to solve any crime, only let them know what you own. 

Of course possesion of an unregistered firearm is a felony.  Get caught., no more guns for you.

It's obvious they don't want to speed things up - unless it's to beat the quitting time clock. 

It's a great idea to pass out the paperwork in advance. Applicants can bring their own clipboards and black pens.

But, they don't want to because they don't really want to make it any easier for the applicants. Again, why make it easier to get a gun when they don't really approve of armed citizens?

Or, is it a trust issue in that it makes it easier for people to write so-so info on the forms? If so, the officers passing out the paperwork can remind people that giving false information is a crime.

 
That's exactly what everyone does at the DMV, grab a form and fill it out in line.  Hpd should do the same. Can't think of any reason they need to keep track of handing out forms.


Reminds me of getting a state id. People wait all day for this. Long lines. Only 2 lanes open. They turn people away at 3 cause of the backlog. Then as the day is about to end got 4 people working, short wait times, everyone acting like they in a hurry to go home.

The only reason I can imagine is that the form is also the permit and the permit number is pre-printed

Of course possesion of an unregistered firearm is a felony.  Get caught., no more guns for you.

x2

Not if it was brought in prior to 94'..

I was being sarcastic by the way.
And it still makes no sense for registration, all it lets them know is who has what.

In line at 11:20am, about 50 people In front of me not including people inside of building.
Pouring rain.

In the doors now @ 1:06pm