Why Am I Not Surprised (Read 2418 times)

RSN172

Why Am I Not Surprised
« on: December 31, 2022, 07:26:43 AM »
Based on the latest U.S. Census Bureau data, more than 15,000 people left the state for other parts of the U.S. over the past year alone, up from 13,000 five years ago.

That's according to a study by the Grassroot Institute of Hawaii, which found the biggest reason people are moving away is the cost of housing and taxes, as well as government regulations.
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RSN172

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oldfart

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2022, 07:49:48 AM »
Based on the latest U.S. Census Bureau data, more than 15,000 people left the state for other parts of the U.S. over the past year alone, up from 13,000 five years ago.

That's according to a study by the Grassroot Institute of Hawaii, which found the biggest reason people are moving away is the cost of housing and taxes, as well as government regulations.
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a large portion of that statistic is my family and friends >:(
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ren

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2022, 08:18:00 AM »
so who is left to pay for all this government? Speaking of govt.what is the purpose of this https://www.honolulu.gov/jtmc because there is still traffic every day
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oldfart

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2022, 08:54:41 AM »
so who is left to pay for all this government? Speaking of govt.what is the purpose of this https://www.honolulu.gov/jtmc because there is still traffic every day
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"JTMC Mission
The JTMC will provide a secure, protected, comfortable, collaborative, and enabling environment that will allow traffic management and Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) personnel on O‘ahu to improve and enhance:"
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obviously, this is a nice place to sit and drink coffee while they watch the traffic cams and wait for the traffic to die down before going home
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QUIETShooter

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2022, 09:03:42 AM »
Hawaii's people voted for this sh*t.  (Can you say Josh Green?)

There are no real jobs anymore (except for construction and several others where there is skills and hard work involved).

The rest just collect a paycheck.  (Can you say government.......)

Yeah.  Hawaii's people voted for this sh*t.

Now sleep in it.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

RSN172

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2022, 09:49:54 AM »
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a large portion of that statistic is my family and friends >:(
I lik join dem, but I gotta go yoa house eat ramen befo I move outta Hawaii.
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oldfart

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2022, 10:49:33 AM »
I lik join dem, but I gotta go yoa house eat ramen befo I move outta Hawaii.
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better grab some ramen quick

Noodles at New Year is supposed to be a symbol of luck and long life.
Sorry I won't be home. I'll be eating charcoal broiled steaks and sausages trying to shorten my life.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2022, 11:21:15 AM »
Last night I ate a whole box of Hawaiian Host Chocolate Covered Macadamia Nuts.

I had 3 of those and 2 Maui Caramacs boxes for Christmas. ;D

Now I get 4 boxes left......
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2022, 12:12:24 PM »
Last night I ate a whole box of Hawaiian Host Chocolate Covered Macadamia Nuts.

I had 3 of those and 2 Maui Caramacs boxes for Christmas. ;D

Now I get 4 boxes left......
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I got extra Ozempic too  :rofl:
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ren

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2022, 03:14:58 PM »
and govt continues to grow while residents leave....
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/12/31/long-time-mental-health-expert-named-new-state-director-trauma-care/

Tia Roberts Hartsock will be the new director of the Governor’s Office of Wellness and Resilience as of Jan. 17.
The state legislature earlier this year appropriated nearly $900,000 to create the semi-autonomous state agency.

It’s the first of its kind in the nation with an ambitious goal — address the root cause of society’s biggest problems and hopefully, reduce crime, substance abuse, suicide, human trafficking and homelessness.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2022, 04:04:25 PM »
and govt continues to grow while residents leave....
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/12/31/long-time-mental-health-expert-named-new-state-director-trauma-care/

Tia Roberts Hartsock will be the new director of the Governor’s Office of Wellness and Resilience as of Jan. 17.
The state legislature earlier this year appropriated nearly $900,000 to create the semi-autonomous state agency.

It’s the first of its kind in the nation with an ambitious goal — address the root cause of society’s biggest problems and hopefully, reduce crime, substance abuse, suicide, human trafficking and homelessness.


"address the root cause of society’s biggest problems and hopefully, reduce crime, substance abuse, suicide, human trafficking and homelessness."

"Hopefully??"  This is the whole reason Democrats can't run a city, state or country.  They hope their policies and programs have some benefit for somebody, but there's no plan to actually accomplish anything of value short of wasting more of your money on their half-witted programs.

I don't think they can even begin to list "the root cause of society's biggest problems," just like Kamala Harris has yet to address the 'root causes' of mass illegal immigration into the US from Central and South America.

Root causes?  If they were honest, they'd start with their own Liberal, Socialist, Left-Wing-Nut policies and laws.  Government causes more problems than they fix, and Democrats never solve a single problem they promise to solve.

I think they know what the root cause is, but they can't self-terminate -- it's against their programming.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2022, 06:03:55 PM »
We need metrics-based government. For example, at the City level they should have each clerk at the DMV record how many applications were processed SUCCESSFULLY for each day.
Is there a source of info on how much our State GDP is versus how much we take in from taxes and Federal subsidies?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Why Am I Not Surprised
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2022, 06:49:36 PM »
We need metrics-based government. For example, at the City level they should have each clerk at the DMV record how many applications were processed SUCCESSFULLY for each day.
Is there a source of info on how much our State GDP is versus how much we take in from taxes and Federal subsidies?

https://dbedt.hawaii.gov/economic/qser/state-economy/

To do any analysis, you have to set some parameters, like timeframe, growth vs. decline rates, types of taxes (excise, general fund, tax on income, property tax, etc.), and so on.  Then you have to factor in the pandemic emergency funds received.  Much of that assistance was a short-term infusion of cash, similar to the Obama era "stimulus" spending that produced no "shovel ready jobs" -- the opposite of what was promised.

All the data is public record.  The trick is to define what metrics you're looking to analyze.

Government spends billions to track metrics, because that's how they justify their own existence.  When the numbers are bad, they use percentages and comparisons with other years to create a positive narrative, like creating a massive job loss over 2 years but bragging about how many jobs have been "created" the last 3 months, even though that number is a tiny fraction of the jobs lost and probably a result of market demand and economic corrections vs. gov't policy.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw