Kokohead shooting complex (Read 80294 times)

groveler

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2023, 11:27:00 AM »
I have no skin here. I don't shoot there, but I'll say it again, your range will not re-open.
 :grrr:
Democrats are the enemy.

ren

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2023, 11:35:54 AM »
I have no skin here. I don't shoot there, but I'll say it again, your range will not re-open.
 :grrr:
Democrats are the enemy.

thank you Dilbert
Deeds Not Words

Akubone1

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2023, 12:17:44 PM »
I have no skin here. I don't shoot there, but I'll say it again, your range will not re-open.
 :grrr:
Democrats are the enemy.

Sorry beg to differ.  It is because the democrats/government that the range will open .  They would love to close it but financially they can’t afford to clean the site and return it to Bishop in its original condition.  Would be in the millions to completely remove lead & structures from all the areas.

powder monkey

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2023, 12:36:04 PM »
I have no skin here. I don't shoot there, but I'll say it again, your range will not re-open.
 :grrr:
Democrats are the enemy.
LOL    who kicked your dog or cat?

groveler

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2023, 01:24:47 PM »
thank you Dilbert
Thanks for the complement!
 :geekdanc:

groveler

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2023, 01:27:29 PM »
Sorry beg to differ.  It is because the democrats/government that the range will open .  They would love to close it but financially they can’t afford to clean the site and return it to Bishop in its original condition.  Would be in the millions to completely remove lead & structures from all the areas.
I hope you are correct. Y'all need a safe place to practice and shoot.
BI will never get such a facility, but we make do.
 :thumbsup:

groveler

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2023, 01:29:39 PM »
LOL    who kicked your dog or cat?
Hawaii Democrats.
Kicked my cattle, fowl, and equine stock also.
 :grrr:

robtmc

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2023, 05:54:32 PM »
I hope you are correct. Y'all need a safe place to practice and shoot.
BI will never get such a facility, but we make do.
In a manner of speaking, that seems like it varies widely.
Your own property, out of state, local garbage ??

QUIETShooter

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2023, 02:42:46 PM »
Anybody can speculate how they will operate the pistol and rifle firing sequences simultaneously?

Usually before claiming firing line is either hot or cold they visually check up and down the line.

Would they be able to see the pistol side clearly?

I believe the end of the pistol facility is walled off.......cannot see rifle side and vice versa.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

jc2721

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2023, 04:34:36 PM »
Anybody can speculate how they will operate the pistol and rifle firing sequences simultaneously?

Usually before claiming firing line is either hot or cold they visually check up and down the line.

Would they be able to see the pistol side clearly?

I believe the end of the pistol facility is walled off.......cannot see rifle side and vice versa.

Telephones, loudspeakers, texting.

dafrtknocker

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2023, 04:43:17 PM »
Maybe like Clark County range, booth moved to center, so he can R.O.'s can see both sides. If concrete wall taken down no problem.

randay

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2023, 05:15:24 PM »
Maybe like Clark County range, booth moved to center, so he can R.O.'s can see both sides. If concrete wall taken down no problem.

great idea, lets fly in a specialist to tell us how to do it, and then we can get the EIS started and in about 14 years we should be able to start construction on the booth.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #72 on: March 06, 2023, 06:49:55 PM »
Maybe like Clark County range, booth moved to center, so he can R.O.'s can see both sides. If concrete wall taken down no problem.

I've been to several ranges on the mainland that use closed circuit TV cameras to monitor the firing line.  Not only lets the range monitors stay safe, they see every single shooting station at once.  That also offers recording for legal and insurance purposes. 

Of course, these had target systems that don't require walking into the target area -- electronic/mechanical target tracks.  No mass cease fires are called, because there's no need unless there's a problem.  Add a better target setup and retrieval system at KHSC, and so many other safety and management problems disappear.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #73 on: March 06, 2023, 06:52:46 PM »
If an EIS is determined to be needed, I would like to see what the action proponent’s position is. I am a$$uming that is either C&C or the State. EIS will be hundreds of thousands of dollars for essentially the same impact as previous use.

robtmc

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #74 on: March 06, 2023, 07:30:58 PM »
Of course, these had target systems that don't require walking into the target area -- electronic/mechanical target tracks.
In your dreams, the democrat government wants you to give up and go away.

KHSC is an irritant they would like to get rid of.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #75 on: March 06, 2023, 07:58:45 PM »
In your dreams, the democrat government wants you to give up and go away.

KHSC is an irritant they would like to get rid of.

Not saying possible or not.  Just that the problems being discussed are not intrinsic to all ranges -- indoor or outdoor.

Like Judge Marilyn liked to say, "Sometimes the cheap comes out expensive."  Most rational people who experienced "Buy once, cry once" get it.  Making a few improvements to eliminate the target placement process necessarily eliminates half a dozen safety issues that no longer need solving.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

powder monkey

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #76 on: March 06, 2023, 11:38:16 PM »
Pistol side target holder frame has been repaired. Pistol, rifle dividing wall has been cut down.
Work is being done with City and County workers.

Downfall

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #77 on: March 07, 2023, 09:30:42 PM »
Pistol side target holder frame has been repaired. Pistol, rifle dividing wall has been cut down.
Work is being done with City and County workers.

will we not be required to bring our own frames in the future?

macsak

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #78 on: March 07, 2023, 09:48:04 PM »
will we not be required to bring our own frames in the future?

that's not what he said...

Downfall

Re: Kokohead shooting complex
« Reply #79 on: March 07, 2023, 10:43:30 PM »
that's not what he said...

Never said that is what he said, I asked a question.

He did state pistol side target holder frame will be repaired.

Just thought it was a new feature as I have not kept myself updated on the rejuvenation of the koko head shooting range project.