Trump Indicted again (Read 14034 times)

eyeeatingfish

Trump Indicted again
« on: June 09, 2023, 11:09:33 PM »
Trump was indicted related to the discovery of classified documents. This seems much more significant than his taxes or campaign finance violation allegations.

Interesting to see where this one leads.
I don't know every single detail of the case so my outlook is tentative but I think Trump he going to have a challenge with these charges.

It is pretty well established that he had the documents and that he knew he had the documents so there is no disputing that. I think that leaves him with one main defense angle and that would be to claim the documents were declassified and it wasn't documented properly buy staff in charge of that. He could also try to claim the documents were improperly classified which is known to happen but I see that as not as strong of an argument.

Since Trump already publicly claimed that he declassifies documents simply by thinking it so, that statement can definitely be used against him and that could end up sinking him.

hvybarrels

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2023, 11:26:16 PM »
Just more election interference from the deep state

Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2023, 11:49:12 PM »
The whole Russia-Collusion hoax was started to swing the outcome of the election to Hildabeast.

When Trump won, they continued the hoax to interfere in his administration's executive functions and policies.

But, Jan 6th was the coup?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2023, 07:31:23 AM »
Interesting how this news seems to be ahead of the Biden Ukraine bribery case.....
Deeds Not Words

groveler

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2023, 09:37:21 AM »
Don't feed the Troll.
 :wave:

macsak

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2023, 09:39:47 AM »
cool story, bro

Well seems like everyone appeared to deflect on your post and avoid the issue. I've read the indictment and he is done. His only hope is that the judge will not let his lawyers that he deceived testify against him or the judge assists in delaying the prosecution until after the election or he gets a minimum sentence.

They have him on tape with 3 witnesses showing a classified document to a reporter and two staffers that don't hold a security clearance. On tape he acknowledges that the document is secret and he could have declassified it while he was President but he can't now since he is no longer President.

They have video and text messages of boxes being moved to hide boxes from the lawyers that were to search for the documents. They also have his lawyers cooperation and testimony.

Documents related to the current military capabilities of foreign countries and attack strategies on foreign countries classified with the added designation NOFORN are not documents that would normally be improperly classified.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2023, 11:40:10 AM »
He must have knowingly and intentionally broken the law.  If he believes he can declassify information by stating it's no longer classified, then there was no intention to do anything illegal.

The FBI and DOJ set the precedent when they refused to charge Hildabeast -- that person who lied to Congress and the FBI stating she had no classified information on her illegal email server.

#TheHillaryDefense

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2023, 02:31:10 PM »
Don't feed the Troll.
 :wave:

I agree. Keep the troll away from the range. It was a great day with no safety infractions. I don't know what class or firearms education the troll took but it is obviously sub-par.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2023, 03:24:09 PM »
They have a taped recording, a writer and two staffers that witnessed him saying the document is classified and he no longer has the power to declassify it. This was 6 months after he left office so. So your argument fails. Trump had several AGs that could have investigated and brought charges if they had anything. They could have assigned a special counsel.  There is no precedent. The FBI doesn't set precedent.

Trump can be indicted 100 more times, and we will still vote for him.  Until he's actually convicted, it's just a Democrat Trump-hating wet dream.

How many times have you posted "This is the one that brings him down?"

Add another log on the anti-Trump fire if it keeps you warm at night.

 :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2023, 03:43:20 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2023, 05:05:44 PM »
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

aletheuo137

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2023, 06:55:33 PM »
 

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aletheuo137

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2023, 06:58:07 PM »
 

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Re: Trump Indicted again
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hvybarrels

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2023, 01:16:13 AM »
Question is ..will you still vote for him after he is convicted?

Are you kidding me? That would be the amazing if he wins from prison!

Biden administration has destroyed the nation beyond repair way ahead of schedule so at this point we're just deciding who rules over the ash heap.

I say let's have some fun watching it all burn.

Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2023, 01:36:57 AM »
Question is ..will you still vote for him after he is convicted? It's obvious you have not read the indictment.

All those felony indictments in New York were supposed to land Trump in prison.

Didn't happen.

These new bogus indictments will also end the same.

You have yet to admit how wrong you were all the other times, so it's useless to ask what you'll do when he's not convicted.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

#PoliticalWitchHunt
« Last Edit: June 11, 2023, 12:48:57 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2023, 10:56:53 AM »
cool story, bro...

Thanks for confirming you don't care about our country or its citizens. I just have to say I disagree. 

Trump’s federal indictment is ‘very damning’: William Barr
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-barr-trumps-indictment-very-damning-even-half-true

groveler

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2023, 11:36:21 AM »
Are you kidding me? That would be the amazing if he wins from prison!

Biden administration has destroyed the nation beyond repair way ahead of schedule so at this point we're just deciding who rules over the ash heap.

I say let's have some fun watching it all burn.


You know who will suffer the most?
stupid shits that vote for and support Democrat policies.
I'll do fine.  I don't play by their rules.
God will sort them out.
 :thumbsup:

hvybarrels

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2023, 01:06:48 PM »
Thanks for confirming you don't care about our country or its citizens.

I have great news for you, buddy. You won! Trump is gone forever and every MAGA  supporter is locked up in the gulags. Congratulations and enjoy your "prize"   :rofl:

Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2023, 10:12:49 PM »
The whole Russia-Collusion hoax was started to swing the outcome of the election to Hildabeast.

When Trump won, they continued the hoax to interfere in his administration's executive functions and policies.

But, Jan 6th was the coup?

I think the whole Stormy daniels payoff case technically had merit but was so obviously a political attack it should not have been pursued. This case actually appears to have merit though. Thanks to Russia hoax, too many people don't trust the FBI anymore. That combined with the almost religious following Trump has pretty much means there is going to be many who will believe a prosecution against Trump is a hoax no matter how much evidence there is.

To me the larger issue is not that Trump is being falsely accused, rather I think it is that Biden may be being protected. Selective prosecution is not healthy for the image of the justice system
« Last Edit: June 11, 2023, 10:26:58 PM by eyeeatingfish »