Trump Indicted again (Read 14184 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #60 on: June 17, 2023, 10:53:12 PM »
MadCow exposing the agenda


A plea deal not to run? Pretty unorthodox. I kind of doubt they would offer that to him unless they didn't think they could win.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2023, 11:00:59 PM »
A plea deal not to run? Pretty unorthodox. I kind of doubt they would offer that to him unless they didn't think they could win.

If Biden is running, Trump will win.

Too much evidence of dementia, not to mention his policies killing the economy.

I just hope Biden doesn't stroke out and elevate you-know-who before the election.  She's been called the biggest do-nothing VP in recent history by the main stream media.  Now that she's been made the gun control queen by The Big Guy, watch as gun crimes skyrocket.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #62 on: June 18, 2023, 12:16:39 AM »
If Biden is running, Trump will win.

Too much evidence of dementia, not to mention his policies killing the economy.

I just hope Biden doesn't stroke out and elevate you-know-who before the election.  She's been called the biggest do-nothing VP in recent history by the main stream media.  Now that she's been made the gun control queen by The Big Guy, watch as gun crimes skyrocket.

If it is Biden v Trump then I agree Trump would probably win. I have doubts that Trump will win the nomination and if he doesn't manage to win then it isn't going to help himself any if he makes enemies of the other republican candidates. Trump will probably try to stall till after the election, seems more advantageous that way.

Kamala Harris is dumber than a bag of rocks. She might manage to get president if Biden kicks the bucket but no way she gets the nomination.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2023, 01:17:19 PM »
If Biden is running, Trump will win.

Too much evidence of dementia, not to mention his policies killing the economy.

I just hope Biden doesn't stroke out and elevate you-know-who before the election.  She's been called the biggest do-nothing VP in recent history by the main stream media.  Now that she's been made the gun control queen by The Big Guy, watch as gun crimes skyrocket.

They will just cheat again. TDS is stronger than results. IDK where you been the past few years.  I asked my father who suffers from it and he said he would vote for Biden if the election was today. Nevermind he argued with me over Russia for years.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2023, 01:18:22 PM »
If it is Biden v Trump then I agree Trump would probably win. I have doubts that Trump will win the nomination and if he doesn't manage to win then it isn't going to help himself any if he makes enemies of the other republican candidates. Trump will probably try to stall till after the election, seems more advantageous that way.

Kamala Harris is dumber than a bag of rocks. She might manage to get president if Biden kicks the bucket but no way she gets the nomination.

I hope he makes enemies in the GOP. Many don't have the balls to do things and speak up. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2023, 02:12:49 PM »
They will just cheat again. TDS is stronger than results. IDK where you been the past few years.  I asked my father who suffers from it and he said he would vote for Biden if the election was today. Nevermind he argued with me over Russia for years.

Sounds like your father has something in common with Biden....

 :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2023, 07:50:43 AM »
Hunter was convicted of his crimes.  Trump should too.  Offer a similar plea deal.   No jail but felony on record. 

We need alternative candidates for 2024.  If the race was the same as last election I would vote for Biden.

What has changed, improved during Biden's time as President?
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zippz

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2023, 08:14:08 AM »
There's a lot of things going for Biden vs Trump in 2024.

Against Trump
1.  Lost 2020 elections when he should've been a clear winner.  Senate should've been republican controlled but he went against republican candidates

2.  As a leader for the Republican party, he lost the 2022 elections when it should've been an easy red wave.  He did not support the republican candidates that were winnable.

3.  He turned against his allies, even the ones he hired or selected.  Those allies are now opposing him.  He's alone without a team.

4.  His trials will turn away the independent voters who will decide the general election.  Trump is disliked by many Republicans, some of whom may not be as motivated to vote.

For Biden by election day
1.  Federal reserve soft landing appears to have happened.

2.  Recession will be over.

3.  Inflation will have eased.

4.  Ukraine may have won the war.

Things that would hit Biden hard...
1.  He has a debilitating illness or dies.
2.  He's investigated and there's clear evidence he coludoluded.with his son and foreign entities.

QUIETShooter

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2023, 08:17:35 AM »
biden.  AGAIN?!!?  In 2024?

That's fucking depressing.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2023, 08:32:59 AM »
how so?

1.  Federal reserve soft landing appears to have happened.

astroboy

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2023, 09:02:11 AM »
biden.  AGAIN?!!?  In 2024?

That's fucking depressing.

Well said. My thoughts exactly.



changemyoil66

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2023, 09:42:11 AM »
biden.  AGAIN?!!?  In 2024?

That's fucking depressing.

Results don't matter to some people and they are easily influenced by the fake news.

ren

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2023, 09:47:56 AM »
Our competitors don't need a strategy, they just stick their hands out with Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-us-officials-sensitive-info-china-big-dollar-fundraiser-report

On Tuesday, the president told about 130 guests at a fundraiser in California that Chinese President Xi Jinping was embarrassed after the U.S. shot down the Chinese spy balloon off the coast of South Carolina in February.

"The reason why Xi Jinping got very upset in terms of when I shot that balloon down with two boxcars full of spy equipment in it is he didn’t know it was there," Biden reportedly said at a private Kentfield home on Tuesday. "No, I’m serious. That’s a great embarrassment for dictators when they didn’t know what happened."
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2023, 11:16:07 AM »
Our competitors don't need a strategy, they just stick their hands out with Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-us-officials-sensitive-info-china-big-dollar-fundraiser-report

On Tuesday, the president told about 130 guests at a fundraiser in California that Chinese President Xi Jinping was embarrassed after the U.S. shot down the Chinese spy balloon off the coast of South Carolina in February.

"The reason why Xi Jinping got very upset in terms of when I shot that balloon down with two boxcars full of spy equipment in it is he didn’t know it was there," Biden reportedly said at a private Kentfield home on Tuesday. "No, I’m serious. That’s a great embarrassment for dictators when they didn’t know what happened."


I find it unlikely a spy ballon with 2 boxcars of intelligence gathering and communications equipment could stray off course and nobody that owns it knows.  The only plausible explanation is Xi is lying.  If he told the truth, he'd have to admit the balloon was exactly where they planned it to be.  Oh, and thanks for waiting so long to bring it down.  The intelligence it transmitted was well worth the cost of the lost equipment!   :geekdanc: :shaka:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #74 on: June 22, 2023, 11:19:53 AM »
There's a lot of things going for Biden vs Trump in 2024.

Against Trump
1.  Lost 2020 elections when he should've been a clear winner.  Senate should've been republican controlled but he went against republican candidates

2.  As a leader for the Republican party, he lost the 2022 elections when it should've been an easy red wave.  He did not support the republican candidates that were winnable.

3.  He turned against his allies, even the ones he hired or selected.  Those allies are now opposing him.  He's alone without a team.

4.  His trials will turn away the independent voters who will decide the general election.  Trump is disliked by many Republicans, some of whom may not be as motivated to vote.

For Biden by election day
1.  Federal reserve soft landing appears to have happened.

2.  Recession will be over.

3.  Inflation will have eased.

4.  Ukraine may have won the war.

Things that would hit Biden hard...
1.  He has a debilitating illness or dies.
2.  He's investigated and there's clear evidence he coludoluded.with his son and foreign entities.

You didn't specify his VP pick as a factor.  If it's Harris again, voters will have to seriously decide if they want her to be president -- either when Biden is incapacitated or when she runs in 2028.  Given her lack of track record the last couple of years, she's going to have a hard time with that.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #75 on: June 22, 2023, 11:33:15 AM »
Something doesn't sound right. For Biden to say Xi didn't know is #1, then he refers to him as a dictator.  This isn't common type of speech for his admin about Xi. I wonder if he went off script.

But to be fair, I don't fault Xi for not knowing the balloon was where it was. No countries leader knows the location of every surveillance device/vehicle in the world. 

How it got that deep into US territory is the big question.  It's not like it was an aircraft that would take 2 hours to get that deep.  The only reason why we shot it down is because it was visible to civilians and the US had to respond to save face. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2023, 11:37:01 AM »
Something doesn't sound right. For Biden to say Xi didn't know is #1, then he refers to him as a dictator.  This isn't common type of speech for his admin about Xi. I wonder if he went off script.

But to be fair, I don't fault Xi for not knowing the balloon was where it was. No countries leader knows the location of every surveillance device/vehicle in the world. 

How it got that deep into US territory is the big question.  It's not like it was an aircraft that would take 2 hours to get that deep.  The only reason why we shot it down is because it was visible to civilians and the US had to respond to save face.

If the ballon is not on it's planned flight path and has strayed into the airspace of a major power, I'd think the people who are watching this happen have the procedures and common sense to let their chain of command know.

Xi doesn't need to know the location of every spy ballon China sends up -- perhaps just the ones that are illegally flying over the US and being reported in the news?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2023, 11:39:26 AM »
You didn't specify his VP pick as a factor.  If it's Harris again, voters will have to seriously decide if they want her to be president -- either when Biden is incapacitated or when she runs in 2028.  Given her lack of track record the last couple of years, she's going to have a hard time with that.

I think you're forgetting who their voter base is. To them, results don't matter as we've seen how quickly things can change going from Trump to Biden.  Even when  this affects  everyone, they still would vote for Biden. See my dads example. When I say affects, I mean in a bad way.  Of course higher gas impacts everyone, but for people who can afford it, they don't care.  Like my dad. His statement "well, good thing I can afford it" when I brought up the higher gas prices and why they increased.

Then the multiple hoax's and they still believe what's being told to them on the news, even though it's been and is pointed out that it's wrong and why.  I would get into heated discussions about Russia early on with my dad. Pointing out all the logical falsehoods about it. But nope, he says something along the line "you're not the expert, there are people investigating who know way more". But fast forward to the Mueller report which he dismissed and focused solely on that "this doesn't exonerate Trump".  Even after I pointed out an investigator doesn't exonerate people, the court does (judge/jury).

So that's why I say Harris could still be picked as VP and it won't have much affect like how a competent voter would.  Cause a competent voter wouldn't vote for Biden at all.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2023, 11:50:22 AM »
If the ballon is not on it's planned flight path and has strayed into the airspace of a major power, I'd think the people who are watching this happen have the procedures and common sense to let their chain of command know.

Xi doesn't need to know the location of every spy ballon China sends up -- perhaps just the ones that are illegally flying over the US and being reported in the news?

I agree most of the chain of command would know, but it will take a while to get to the top  (Xi) until it's too late.  Imagine the ass whooping all involved got due to it.  So the goal would be to fix it before letting the big boss know what's up. 

This is assuming it's off course and not able to be corrected.  But I'm sure he got word once it was on social media.

I don't think it was off course at all though. The mistake China made was that it was visible to civilians.

ren

Re: Trump Indicted again
« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2023, 12:04:02 PM »
You didn't specify his VP pick as a factor.  If it's Harris again, voters will have to seriously decide if they want her to be president -- either when Biden is incapacitated or when she runs in 2028.  Given her lack of track record the last couple of years, she's going to have a hard time with that.

Too many factors. Simple question for voters. Is your wallet lighter now than it was during Trump?
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