Hes using whataboutism, so when called out he can move goalpost.

Im still waiting for him to read the entire HI red flag law and not just 1 part.

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maybe the unattended rifle was a non-lethal ... used for "warning shots"?

In other words, we can f*ck up.  But not you law abiding, responsible firearm owners.  You guys are potential criminals, according to the laws and by-laws of the banana republik of hawaii.

So neva mind what happened that day.  Neva mind that an innocent person could have been hurt or killed that day.  We da police.  We can F*ck up.  But not you.

We nomo dat tool da Men in Black use to make yoo guys forget........

#1 You still use that phrase wrong.
#2 no goalposts moved, see my answer to him.
#3 I did read the whole HI red flag law.
 

I don't know, maybe if you became seriously wounded?

I cannot really think of any other time you could justify leaving your weapon. I simply stated "most situations" in case there is some situation I did not consider. I put in disclaimers like that because I know that I don't know everything and there could be some situation justifying it that I had not conceived of.

Why do you even bother replying when you said virtually nothing?

It is a bit more complicated than that. Qualified immunity if a form of protection for government employees who are trying to do their job but make reasonable mistakes.

It can become a double edged because there is wiggle room in the interpretation/application of the concept. So while it can protect employees from honest well intentioned mistakes it can also end up protecting them from civil lawsuits where they should be held liable as well. It is not a perfect concept in application but it is arguably a necessary one because without it, it would be too difficult to perform necessary functions without constantly being sued.

You compare a cop messing up to a member of the public messing up but that isn't really a fair comparison because you aren't going to have a member of the public performing swat duties. We wouldn't have the same protections but we wouldn't be judged by the same standards as swat officers either.

"disclaimers" so I can't be proved wrong as I don't have a solid opinion that's correct. #whataboutism.

BRB a rifle just fell from the sky and is now unattended. Which means it's OK cause it fell from the sky and landed on the table.

I cannot speak for anyone else but I'm concerned about the investigation into this particular incident.

I'm trusting HPD doesn't try to sweep this under the rug. That's why I said what I said.  It is frustrating when it seems they are dilly dallying on the investigation.  Immunity (I hope) for these officers does not mean they can be derelict in what I think is basic protocols when handling firearms out in the field.

Wrong and wrong. Swoosh!

It is not about being proven wrong, it is about being as accurate as possible, you know, like science. Thats why hand sanitizer says kills 99.9% of germs instead of saying kills all germs.

And since you keep getting that word wrong allow me to post the definition for you... again

what·a·bout·ism
[ˌ(h)wədəˈboudizəm]
NOUN
BRITISH ENGLISH
the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue. Also called whataboutery.
"the parliamentary hearing appeared to be an exercise in whataboutism"

Hahhahahaha he actually took time to look it up. OMG. This is almost as good when someone else who was here thought VAERS was a disease.

I looked it up for your benefit. But ignore it if you like, keep on using words improperly and look silly, I don't care.

Hhahahahhah that you think I'm the one who looks silly. Thanks for playing Jean.

I looked it up for your benefit. But ignore it if you like, keep on using words improperly and look silly, I don't care.

Hhahahahhah that you think I'm the one who looks silly. Thanks for playing Jean.

Thanks for playing. Ready...."seh-toe"

Okay troll

Thanks for giving up cause u cant prove anything. Look up any other states red flag to post yet?

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I have no need to repeatedly prove something to someone trolling.