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Here's my take on why this sensitive places law is full of crap.

1)  Suspect arrested for murder.  This guy is a criminal.  He disregarded the law, went into that place knowing the chances of anyone being able to defend themselves are literally zero, and like a coward, killed someone.

2)  Article states it is unknown whether suspect has a permit to carry a firearm.  LOL!   It's obvious he doesn't.  And I can confidently bet HPD knows this.  But of course, this information would only fuel the fire on the side that the sensitive places ban on firearms only punish the law-abiding.

3) Blangiardi says you can't blame the law for that.  No sh*t, Sherlock.  When are asshats like you gonna realize that criminals do not adhere to laws.

These asshats that make laws and blatantly defy the Bruen decision by purposely drafting laws to counter it will contribute to future murders of innocent people by criminals.

Until these pukes can guarantee that law enforcement will immediately respond to any threat to innocents they are arrogantly defying the rights of citizens to protect themselves while they hide behind their special security detail that protects them, but not us.

“It’s not about the viability of the law. It’s about this particular individual [and] what they chose to do,” Blangiardi explained. “I maintain the fact that we put these laws in places to make people feel safe in a bar after midnight. You know, you can’t– you can’t blame the law for that.”   

“It’s not about the viability of the law. It’s about this particular individual [and] what they chose to do,” Blangiardi explained. “I maintain the fact that we put these laws in places to make people feel safe in a bar after midnight. You know, you can’t– you can’t blame the law for that.”   

Feel safe, Or be safe?

Here's my take on why this sensitive places law is full of crap.

1)  Suspect arrested for murder.  This guy is a criminal.  He disregarded the law, went into that place knowing the chances of anyone being able to defend themselves are literally zero, and like a coward, killed someone.

IMO, I will hold off judgement on this because we don't know the details. But running doesn't help him, think OJ Simpson.  So I'm leaning more toward him being a prior criminal.

Besides violating the unconstitutional sensitive places law, there may be many situations where he used his gun for self defense.  And if he doesn't have a CCW permit, this is unconstitutional as well. The only way I see that he shouldn't be carrying is if he's a felon, which prohibits firearm ownership/possession.

“It’s not about the viability of the law. It’s about this particular individual [and] what they chose to do,” Blangiardi explained. “I maintain the fact that we put these laws in places to make people feel safe in a bar after midnight. You know, you can’t– you can’t blame the law for that.”   

So a blue politician finally admits it's not the tool, but the person.

Feel safe, Or be safe?

Very good point.  For us to be safe we need to have the freedom to choose to carry firearms to protect ourselves.

Not have political asshats with private security details make that decision for us.

I would be in favor of sensitive places law if it applied to all LEOs as well.

No need gun in those areas cause nobody else get, right? Baton good enough.

Let’s try that for a year and see how it works out.  I bet 98% of LEOs would refuse to work under those conditions.

I would be in favor of sensitive places law if it applied to all LEOs as well.

No need gun in those areas cause nobody else get, right? Baton good enough.

Let’s try that for a year and see how it works out.  I bet 98% of LEOs would refuse to work under those conditions.

I understand your concept, but no. IMO, there should be no sensitive places.

I understand your concept, but no. IMO, there should be no sensitive places.

I agree, but it is more a political dare. Should be no permit to acquire, registration or to carry as in states like AZ, ID, etc.

In da meantime, AINOKEA wat da hell dey do.

I think the laws that our politicians made concerning guns should be equally applicable to everyone.

So I would like them (politicians) to go about their everyday lives without the security details that usually is assigned to them.  Especially Dr. Green and Major Blangiardi.

Be like us.  Normal everyday citizens. 

Of course, if they like apply for CCW they can if they want to.

But they better follow the laws that they implemented.  Walk the walk.  No just Talk the talk.

I think the laws that our politicians made concerning guns should be equally applicable to everyone.

So I would like them (politicians) to go about their everyday lives without the security details that usually is assigned to them.  Especially Dr. Green and Major Blangiardi.

Be like us.  Normal everyday citizens. 

Of course, if they like apply for CCW they can if they want to.

But they better follow the laws that they implemented.  Walk the walk.  No just Talk the talk.

"Imma Doctor!" I need security!

"Imma Doctor!" I need security!

The IL AWB lawsuit plaintiff is an ER doctor. He said that he had to posses a SWAT officers AR when he was injured (check and make safe and store).  And other times he has to do so as part of training exercises with SWAT.  I don't remember the ruling if it was even ruled upon yet.

 

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Here's the big thing we need to wait to see.  If the guy is charged with violating a sensitive place from both the city ordinance and state law.

Update:

Arrest log has been posted. No charge for sensitive place, but more charges can always be added later.

Did the guy have a CCW license?  I'm willing to bet he does not.  I'm also willing to bet that HPD knows this and the media knows this but it doesn't fit the anti-gun agenda that Hawaii buys into.

Therefore there is crickets on that subject.

Did the guy have a CCW license?  I'm willing to bet he does not.  I'm also willing to bet that HPD knows this and the media knows this but it doesn't fit the anti-gun agenda that Hawaii buys into.

Therefore there is crickets on that subject.

"It’s unknown whether the suspect has a permit to carry a firearm. The establishment
where the shooting took place is considered a sensitive public place because it serves alcohol."

The first sentence is irrelevant.  The liquor store is off limits for firearms whether of not someone is licensed.

The one thing you can assume -- anyone carrying in a sensitive place is more than likely not a licensed carrier.  That's how the stats break down nationally.  Gun crimes are less common among people who have ccm permits/licenses.

Honolulu Mayor Rick Blangiardi, who signed the sensitive places bill into law,
said the ban is working.

“It’s not about the viability of the law. It’s about this particular individual [and]
what they chose to do,” Blangiardi explained. “I maintain the fact that we put
these laws in places to make people feel safe in a bar after midnight.
You know, you can’t– you can’t blame the law for that.”

That's the most honest thing he's said.  It's not about crime prevention.  It's about feelings.

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My favorites.
 

Arrest log has been posted. No charge for sensitive place, but more charges can always be added later.

sensitive place's law is only for LTC permit holders