If she ultimately refused to get out of the car they would have to break the window so it isn't something that unreasonable however I think they should have taken things a little slower, save the window breaking for later.

Another reason to not break the window right away is because if this lady was set on driving the car, reaching in and trying to pull her out can be quite dangerous. Even if the officer broke it on the first try and grabbed onto her arm or something, if she jumped on the gas the officer would have been taken for a ride and could have gotten seriously injured. It just isn't a good tactical decision at that point. If her car had been blocked in by another vehicle then it would have been safer to try.

Another consideration for officers are people who are mentally handicapped or suffering a mental issue. I don't think that was the case with this lady, just saying that those types of situations do exist. There was an officer years ago who tasered (IIRC) someone who refused to get out of the car. Turns out the person was having a seizure or some other type of medical condition that made him either incapable or understanding or of complying. That is another example of why cops need to slow down sometimes. I think had they slowed down they likely would have gotten her compliance.

What was the call about for the cop who tasered the seizure person?  Like was it a traffic stop or was it a call that a crime was committed?  This makes a huge difference. Cops have a hard job as they have no idea who they are making contact with and what their intentions are.  There are many vids out there of cops being shot at in less than a second and there were little to no threat indicators.  Which is why it's on the peoples responsibility to not make the situation worst. Like don't reach for stuff unless given the OK, don't make a situation worst basically.  Yes, citizens should not have to do this, but in the end, the cops are the ones with the guns and get more leeway when using deadly force compared to a normal person using a firearm for self defense.  So I rather bend backwards and not get shot than be right and get shot.

I was pulled over for texting at a stop light a long time ago and when I was asked for my reg and insurance, I explained how I'm going to grab it and where it is (in my glove box). At first the cop was suspect on why I'm being like that, but then I explained that I want her to be comfortable with the interaction.  In the end, she thanked me and let me off with a warning.

In my opinion both parties were complete jerks.

Talk about a lose-lose situation.

Mom and unborn baby is dead.  Mom played the victim card instead of thinking of her baby.

Cops involved are gonna live with that fact for the rest of their lives.

They killed a woman with child.  All for what?  Shoplifting?

OMG.

In my opinion both parties were complete jerks.

Talk about a lose-lose situation.

Mom and unborn baby is dead.  Mom played the victim card instead of thinking of her baby.

Cops involved are gonna live with that fact for the rest of their lives.

They killed a woman with child.  All for what?  Shoplifting?

OMG.

The cops don't GAS as long as they go home safe.
Unions and society thinks cops can do no wrong as long as the perp is white. soon as it is a black thug
then all Democrat government comes down on them.
Whites are a free fire zone. Blacks are "special;"
I'm not racist, I just look at facts and data.
 

This video has relevance to CCW licensees.  A few takeaways I got from this is:
1.  Rifles have the advantage at distance
2.  Be able to make good quick multiple hits at distance under stress
3.  Stay behind cover
4.  Practice malfunction clearances
5.  Can't run away from a rifleman without cover.

I also noticed the bad guy had a huge scope on his rifle, mustve been like a 6x24 and be hard to use at that distance.

What was the call about for the cop who tasered the seizure person?  Like was it a traffic stop or was it a call that a crime was committed?  This makes a huge difference. Cops have a hard job as they have no idea who they are making contact with and what their intentions are.  There are many vids out there of cops being shot at in less than a second and there were little to no threat indicators.  Which is why it's on the peoples responsibility to not make the situation worst. Like don't reach for stuff unless given the OK, don't make a situation worst basically.  Yes, citizens should not have to do this, but in the end, the cops are the ones with the guns and get more leeway when using deadly force compared to a normal person using a firearm for self defense.  So I rather bend backwards and not get shot than be right and get shot.

I was pulled over for texting at a stop light a long time ago and when I was asked for my reg and insurance, I explained how I'm going to grab it and where it is (in my glove box). At first the cop was suspect on why I'm being like that, but then I explained that I want her to be comfortable with the interaction.  In the end, she thanked me and let me off with a warning.

I am not sure if this video is the same one I was referring to however it is very similar.


Here is another one kind of similar



These aren't relevant to this lady who got shot in the car, I was just adding them as another type of situation officers can face, one where lack of compliance isn't because someone is resisting or intentionally refusing.

Couple other things I noticed was the officer should've immediately take cover behind the first car draw and lit the guy up, instead of running back which wasted time.

The other was when he had the double feed, he was out in the open and exposed the malfunction so the bad guy knew he was defenseless.  If the cop stayed behind cover, bad guy might not have seen it.

It was about 5 seconds from the start of the malfunction till when the cop was shot, so gotta clear those malfunctions fast.

ASP analysis in the Ta'Kiya shooting.

Also in other videos it shows she took bottles of liquor from the store.

Officer was charged with murder in this case.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - An Ohio police officer was indicted Tuesday on murder and other charges in the shooting of Ta’Kiya Young, a 21-year-old pregnant Black mother who was killed after being accused of shoplifting last August.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/08/14/family-speaks-after-officer-indicted-shooting-pregnant-black-woman-its-been-agony/

Officer was charged with murder in this case.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - An Ohio police officer was indicted Tuesday on murder and other charges in the shooting of Ta’Kiya Young, a 21-year-old pregnant Black mother who was killed after being accused of shoplifting last August.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/08/14/family-speaks-after-officer-indicted-shooting-pregnant-black-woman-its-been-agony/

Officer was charged with murder in this case.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - An Ohio police officer was indicted Tuesday on murder and other charges in the shooting of Ta’Kiya Young, a 21-year-old pregnant Black mother who was killed after being accused of shoplifting last August.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/08/14/family-speaks-after-officer-indicted-shooting-pregnant-black-woman-its-been-agony/