Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements (Read 43983 times)

drck1000

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2024, 11:20:05 AM »
To me making a response video is like he's doing damage control.  He cannot undo what he said at the hearing.  He's pouring gasoline on his own fire.

To Kit n Gun, whoever you are.  I suggest next time, you think before opening your mouth.
IMO, it was a double down and "look at me".  Maybe it was intended to explain, but I think he did very much poured gasoline on the fire. 

Very much agree with "think before opening your mouth", but that's the issue.  He didn't and he's completely missing why people are outraged (or at least many). 

yes, but he did not do any damage control, except to claim that he is pro-2a. he then called everyone crybabies and mother fuckers, while jerking himself off.
Yeah.  Def didn't do damage control.  I don't think he intended it for damage control.  The "crybaby" part did leave me scratching my head.

hvybarrels

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2024, 11:24:30 AM »
It does make a good cautionary tale for what happens when you insult the HI2A community after stabbing us in the back

How much fire can a ceasefire cease if a ceasefire never ceased fire?

oldfart

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2024, 11:39:07 AM »
I hope Kit and his crew and Logan and Green catch the hint that their antics are "unpopular".

It's also not going to help with economic recovery, nor with the crackhead crime problem.
Oh wait NVM,....Logan said crime rates are down. :rofl:
What, Me Worry?

mrgaf

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2024, 04:31:16 PM »
Possible new kitten gun spokesmodel? I hear she is looking for work.



I just fucking threw up in my mout! My eyes are burning! Thanks a lot!  8)
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

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Q

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2024, 08:37:02 PM »

    I see the link to his site via facebook has been removed and links via instagram, yelp, mapquest, and youtube are not working.

Did you know that if you advertise on Google, you are CHARGED FOR EVERY CLICK to your site ?    ::)

Anyone notice all the prices have magically disappeared overnight?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #85 on: January 11, 2024, 11:26:10 PM »
I've spoken to him and he knows how to articulate his thoughts well.  So there is no language barrier.

There are rumors about his classes, which I wasn't there so I cannot confirm them.  So you thinking people can do worse to turn him into an enemy, isn't true.

I see so no excuse there.

I do not think we should alienate the moderate people, just my opinion. I have no opinion on his instructor capabilities.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #86 on: January 11, 2024, 11:34:29 PM »
"if i am not mistaken"?
#objective

Yes. I watched part of the testimony video but I was not sure whether he was the one with the accent or not.

macsak

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #87 on: January 12, 2024, 04:56:48 AM »
nuance bro, focus
he said his first name and spelled his last name...

Yes. I watched part of the testimony video but I was not sure whether he was the one with the accent or not.

changemyoil66

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #88 on: January 12, 2024, 07:47:23 AM »
Yes. I watched part of the testimony video but I was not sure whether he was the one with the accent or not.

Like other threads, I guess you didn't read the part of this thread that mentions him vs the other guy.  Or the pic of Kit.

astroboy

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #89 on: January 12, 2024, 09:47:33 AM »
We have seen this movie before. I can imagine hearing the Mission Impossible theme
while the rubber mask is pulled off of Kit's head to reveal it's: Darren H., Art O., or Warren
K. etc...

eyeeatingfish

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2024, 12:38:56 AM »
Like other threads, I guess you didn't read the part of this thread that mentions him vs the other guy.  Or the pic of Kit.

Sorry, I didn't read every post in this whole thread and then do a facial comparison to the video.

macsak

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2024, 05:38:37 AM »
Sorry, I didn't read every post in this whole thread and then do a facial comparison to the video.

focus
you obviously watched the video
stop moving goalposts...

ren

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2024, 07:30:49 AM »
haha "facial comparison" because people use that term everyday when asked if they recognize someone
Deeds Not Words

rpoL98

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2024, 07:38:07 AM »
Sorry, I didn't read every post in this whole thread and then do a facial comparison to the video.
the caddyshack bucket hat threw everybody off.  or was it Col Blake from MASH?  i get confused.

changemyoil66

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2024, 08:26:11 AM »
Sorry, I didn't read every post in this whole thread and then do a facial comparison to the video.
U should, that way u dont have to move goal post or thread needs to go on and on and on.

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stangzilla

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #95 on: January 15, 2024, 07:35:40 AM »
Possible new kitten gun spokesmodel? I hear she is looking for work.



kin n gun drinks bud light

changemyoil66

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2024, 07:44:25 AM »
kin n gun drinks bud light

I would have thought Tsing Tao.

stangzilla

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #97 on: January 15, 2024, 08:15:08 AM »
I would have thought Tsing Tao.

Sometimes I drink Tsing Tao
Got a friend from China and that's what he drinks
Now I'm into BeerLab beer. Pricey but it's some great beer. I think best "craft" beer locally

Stack_Xchange

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #98 on: January 15, 2024, 09:17:15 AM »
It's probably an unpopular opinion here, but I actually agree with the guy...

I don't think a permit should be required for any long gun (AR to shotgun to musket) unless you want to carry it in public.
I think a permit should be required to own a handgun, and if you want to carry it in public, you also should have a permit demonstrating you have the skills necessary to carry and deploy that firearm safely.

My reasoning for this is simply because long guns are rarely used in crimes and cannot really be concealed. In situations where a long gun is used, you can usually take your time (e.g. hunting or skeet shooting) and there probably aren't a lot of people around. However, when you carry a handgun, we need to make sure you don't have a criminal history since gun crimes are usually committed with handguns. In addition, carrying a concealed handgun requires skills that people don't naturally have. People fumble holstering/unholstering a weapon in giant outside-the-waistband holsters... I think people should be required to demonstrate they can remove a layer of clothing and deploy a concealed weapon without injuring themselves or someone else. Also, since CCWing means you'll be carrying in public, there are a lot of people around who could be hurt. I see police who have "training" running, one-handed, indiscriminately firing at a target 20-30 yards away at an obviously unclear backdrop. It's troubling to think what someone who has absolutely no training will do. In exchange for this training though, the state shouldn't have such a wide "Sensitive Place" ban when police officers are allowed to carry in those same places while off duty, and their tactic of trying to shame Pro2A property owners by requiring placement of signage saying "GUNS ALLOWED" is ridiculous.

Just my 2 cents

changemyoil66

Re: Kit n Gun Supports HPD's new requirements
« Reply #99 on: January 15, 2024, 09:36:48 AM »
It's probably an unpopular opinion here, but I actually agree with the guy...

I don't think a permit should be required for any long gun (AR to shotgun to musket) unless you want to carry it in public.
I think a permit should be required to own a handgun, and if you want to carry it in public, you also should have a permit demonstrating you have the skills necessary to carry and deploy that firearm safely.

My reasoning for this is simply because long guns are rarely used in crimes and cannot really be concealed. In situations where a long gun is used, you can usually take your time (e.g. hunting or skeet shooting) and there probably aren't a lot of people around. However, when you carry a handgun, we need to make sure you don't have a criminal history since gun crimes are usually committed with handguns. In addition, carrying a concealed handgun requires skills that people don't naturally have. People fumble holstering/unholstering a weapon in giant outside-the-waistband holsters... I think people should be required to demonstrate they can remove a layer of clothing and deploy a concealed weapon without injuring themselves or someone else. Also, since CCWing means you'll be carrying in public, there are a lot of people around who could be hurt. I see police who have "training" running, one-handed, indiscriminately firing at a target 20-30 yards away at an obviously unclear backdrop. It's troubling to think what someone who has absolutely no training will do. In exchange for this training though, the state shouldn't have such a wide "Sensitive Place" ban when police officers are allowed to carry in those same places while off duty, and their tactic of trying to shame Pro2A property owners by requiring placement of signage saying "GUNS ALLOWED" is ridiculous.

Just my 2 cents

It's OK to have a different opinion. But others don't have to like it.

Here's a question to think about.  I've taken a CCW test in NV and it's so easy that anyone can pass it.  Even someone who just bough their gun.  So how difficult should a test be made?  I'm not an expert shooter, but passed HI's CCW with a 100% for both guns.  What if HPD required a much more difficult test that required to hit a baseball size target at 25 yards under time?  I can see that 99% of people would fail this, and those who did pass would have spend many hours and a lot of money practicing.  This is why I'm against test or classes. So what good is a class/test that it's very difficult to fail?

Then add in what if the range is shut down?  Oahu is lucky that 808GC is the only place allowing private instructors. With KHSC bay's closed and X-Ring only allowing their instructors, if 808GC decided to follow, then it would make the task even more unobtainable.  This is another reason why I'm against classes.  We saw with COVID when HI shut down the range, no one could buy a handgun.  Then with the BS RSVP HPD system, it was almost impossible to get a RSVP for a year, unless you sat at your computer all day hitting the refresh button or you got lucky.

Even with the bays open, there's somethign about only non-profits allowed to use them. Which would still mean no private instructor can do the shooting qual there.  And say they can, it would be at open shoots, which doesn't have enough cease fires to change targets out.  It's not like NV where you can just go into the desert to shoot.

Then ask yourself, does any other right need to have a test taken in order to exercise it? 

I'm not here to change your mind, but just give points of thought.  I talked to 1 guy who agreed with the class/test, then I reminded him of what happened during covid when he tried to buy a gun.  He wasn't able to do so due to the above I mentioned.  He immediately changed his mind to say this is BS.