TX (state) put up constantine wire to stop the illegals from coming to the US.  Boarder Patrol (Federal) would cut the wire or remove it to detain or render aid if needed.  So TX National Guard stopped them from doing so.

I'm not 100% sure I'm interpreting this correctly, but...SCOTUS ruled that the state cannot stop federal agents from doing their jobs.  Thus having the wire there prevents them from doing their jobs.  Even though as we know illegal entry is a catch and release system. 

So here's the question, how much longer until BP agents obey orders and cut/remove any wiring that's keeping illegals out?  Those on site are well aware that it's a catch and release program.

I get that SCOTUS rules based on what the Constitution says and I agree with this, even though 4 of the conservative judges stated otherwise.  But what do you do if federal agents doing their jobs is for nothing?

Say Russia decided to invade Alaska and our Federal gov declared a surrender. But  AK  decided not to surrender and keep fighting.   US Army members are then sent to the area to help Russia cross over, but the NG stops them.  Of course SCOTUS would rule in the same way as the concept is the same.

We have seen SCOTUS ruled in Bruen, yet anti 2a states disobey it.  Bruen said to use very sparingly what a sensitive place is.  But then HI decides to name 20 sensitive places and then have a default ban everywhere else.  In fact, they wanted to name all of Waikiki a sensitive place.  Since we have seen that there is no penalty for disobeying a SCOTUS ruling, should TX ignore it and keep going?

Full disclosure that I haven't read a lot into the situation.  So the above may be wrong, feel free to correct if so.

FYI, it's "concertina wire".  If you know what a concertina is (musical instrument), it makes sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concertina_wire

The problem is Texas has two borders that overlap:  a state border and a national border.  if Texas didn't border on another country, they could set up barriers without encroaching on federal jurisdiction.  Maybe if TX paid their neighbors to set up barriers? ....

National border protection is under authority of the federal government. 

Let's say Hawaii decides to stop all incoming shipments from China to curtail human trafficking into the state.  Human trafficking from foreign countries is under the authority of the feds, and even though Hawaii has the right to protect the state, stopping shipments from China becomes a national/international issue.

It's like when you go to 7-11 to get gas and a coffee, but the clerk is glued to his iPhone and ignoring you.  You aren't allowed to ring yourself up and make change from the cash drawer, and of course not paying would be theft.  Doesn't matter that the person who is allowed to handle the register isn't doing his job.

It's frustrating, but as long as these Dumbo-crats keep getting elected, they have no reason to change.

I'm hoping all these immigrants showing up in blue states will open some of the voters' eyes.

I'm hoping all these immigrants showing up in blue states will open some of the voters' eyes.

They are since some are being shipped there.  Its so funny to see the people complain once they're there.

Even the demorats have a "not in my neighborhood" mentality.

They love to talk the talk as long as someone else is doing the walk.

My last post created a question in my mind:

Couldn't TX set up barriers and checkpoints all along their north-facing borders?  If they catch illegals, they can then arrest them.

If the illegals make it all the way across TX, then they are obviously not there to apply for refugee status.  They would have come in at a US-Mexico border entry point.

The question becomes, is there a law in TX that allows them to deport illegals?  I doubt it -- that's the Fed's job.

Is there a TX law that makes it illegal to be in the state if they are in the country illegally?

Maybe that's an issue the state can address in their legislature?  At least it'll again make the supreme court analyze where states rights start and federal authority begins.

There's letter of the law and spirit of the law. They are hiding behind Orwellian language interpretations.

I"m wondering if they really think we are that stupid, or are they trying to start an insurrection so they can bring the hammer down?

My last post created a question in my mind:

Couldn't TX set up barriers and checkpoints all along their north-facing borders?  If they catch illegals, they can then arrest them.

If the illegals make it all the way across TX, then they are obviously not there to apply for refugee status.  They would have come in at a US-Mexico border entry point.

The question becomes, is there a law in TX that allows them to deport illegals?  I doubt it -- that's the Fed's job.

Is there a TX law that makes it illegal to be in the state if they are in the country illegally?

Maybe that's an issue the state can address in their legislature?  At least it'll again make the supreme court analyze where states rights start and federal authority begins.

Since we invaded Iraq the 2nd time for much less, why don't we put the wire 5 feet into the Mexico side of things?  This is what happens when predecent is set to invade a country for false reasons. 

Since we invaded Iraq the 2nd time for much less, why don't we put the wire 5 feet into the Mexico side of things?  This is what happens when predecent is set to invade a country for false reasons.

Does the Constitution cover foreign governments?

Could TX help defend/secure Mexico's southern border?

Hmmmmm...   

HEre's another example of soliders/LE following orders.  BP is removing the barriers so they can "do their job" and process the illegals. Knowing very well that most won't show up to court after they're released.  We wouldn't be in this situation in TX if BP sided with the US people.

Minimum of 15 states have pledged support to Texas in it's efforts to defend itself against the migrant invasion.

Texas National Guard is adding more razor wire where CBP removed it.

Armed state militia is pushing back on armed Federal agents and the lawlessness of the Biden administration for failure to secure the national border, aiding and abetting human trafficking and sex trafficking, refusing to fulfill Constitutionally mandated duties, etc.

This might be what starts US Civil War II.

Texas National Guard is adding more razor wire where CBP removed it.

Armed state militia is pushing back on armed Federal agents and the lawlessness of the Biden administration for failure to secure the national border, aiding and abetting human trafficking and sex trafficking, refusing to fulfill Constitutionally mandated duties, etc.

This might be what starts US Civil War II.

I agree also.  I see dissenting State's National Guard Units, along with their civilian militia banding together and consolidating their resources to defy the Federal government.

I see guerilla type warfare instead of large armies clashing with each other like in the 1st Civil War.

The NG have a stake at this as it's their state who's getting screwed over.  Some of the BP do live there, but some are flown in from other states.  My friend here is 1 of them, but he's in AZ.  He's super pissed that he's away from his family for this BS reason.

Reminds me of the scene from The Siege

The NG have a stake at this as it's their state who's getting screwed over.  Some of the BP do live there, but some are flown in from other states.  My friend here is 1 of them, but he's in AZ.  He's super pissed that he's away from his family for this BS reason.

Reminds me of the scene from The Siege

Personally I don't think the NG military would have a problem firing on cops and federal officers.
Civilians would be another issue entirely.
Although after Waco, I wonder,  but that was active duty military.
BTW I was in Austin at a seminar when Waco happened, local news was interesting.
 

Thanks to the cowardice of SCOTUS the USA has now officially entered a pre-revolutionary state. Plan accordingly

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/war-red-states-rally-round-texas-battle-brews-biden-over-border

“President Biden and his Administration have left Americans and our country completely vulnerable to unprecedented illegal immigration pouring across the Southern border. Instead of upholding the rule of law and securing the border, the Biden Administration has attacked and sued Texas for stepping up to protect American citizens from historic levels of illegal immigrants, deadly drugs like fentanyl, and terrorists entering our country.

“We stand in solidarity with our fellow Governor, Greg Abbott, and the State of Texas in utilizing every tool and strategy, including razor wire fences, to secure the border. We do it in part because the Biden Administration is refusing to enforce immigration laws already on the books and is illegally allowing mass parole across America of migrants who entered our country illegally.

“The authors of the U.S. Constitution made clear that in times like this, states have a right of self-defense, under Article 4, Section 4 and Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Because the Biden Administration has abdicated its constitutional compact duties to the states, Texas has every legal justification to protect the sovereignty of our states and our nation.”

Signatories include: Governor Kay Ivey (AL), Governor Mike Dunleavy (AK), Governor Sarah Sanders (AR), Governor Ron DeSantis (FL), Governor Brian Kemp (GA), Governor Brad Little (ID), Governor Eric Holcomb (IN), Governor Kim Reynolds (IA), Governor Jeff Landry (LA), Governor Tate Reeves (MS), Governor Mike Parson (MO), Governor Greg Gianforte (MT), Governor Jim Pillen (NE), Governor Joe Lombardo (NV), Governor Chris Sununu (NH), Governor Doug Burgum (ND), Governor Mike DeWine (OH), Governor Kevin Stitt (OK), Governor Henry McMaster (SC), Governor Kristi Noem (SD), Governor Bill Lee (TN), Governor Spencer Cox (UT), Governor Glenn Youngkin (VA), Governor Jim Justice (WV), and Governor Mark Gordon (WY).

Thanks to the cowardice of SCOTUS the USA has now officially entered a pre-revolutionary state.

Since half of the population clearly does not want to live peacefully with the other half of the population of the US empire, there will be no Civil War II, but more like the Balkanization of the US empire once domestic blood is spilled.  Moreover, once US imperial toilet paper collapses and/or the US empire's instigated conflict with Russia/China starts, the point of no return will have been reached, and, barring nuclear war, it will be a matter of months or even weeks when the former official states as well as illegally occupied territories of the US empire seek or reinstitute their nation-state like Texas and Hawaii.

Plan accordingly.

Hawaiian and dare I say Texan nationalists have been anticipating and planning accordingly for some time now.

#veryastute

Hawaiian and dare I say Texan nationalists have been anticipating and planning accordingly for some time now.

The amount of states supporting Texas now stands at 25 and growing.  Is it time to tell governor green to join the effort?

remember when Ige wanted to declare Hawaii a Sanctuary State?  and that got shouted down by the infuriated public.

so, Hawaii won't be standing with TX, not with fools like Hirono and Shatz holding office.

remember when Ige wanted to declare Hawaii a Sanctuary State?  and that got shouted down by the infuriated public.

so, Hawaii won't be standing with TX, not with fools like Hirono and Shatz holding office.

And HI's AG would write a letter supporting SCOTUS's ruling against TX.