Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill (Read 10702 times)

aletheuo137

Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« on: January 23, 2024, 11:43:06 AM »
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ballot-hawaii-2024-presidential-election-1863067

Donald Trump could be kicked off the ballot in Hawaii ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

Democrats in the state have introduced legislation to ban insurrectionists from running for public office, as per the 14th Amendment. While he is not named in the bill, Trump therefore may not be eligible if this bill passes, as he has been labeled an insurrectionist because of his actions during the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021, in which his supporters stormed the building to contest the result of the 2020 presidential election and try to block certification of Joe Biden's victory.

The legislation was introduced by Senator Karl Rhoads last week and on Monday it passed its first reading. It moved to ban voters from electing people to president who a federal court, or state supreme court has disqualified because of the 14th Amendment. It also seeks to stop those disqualified by a court based on the constitutional amendment from appearing on party ballots for presidential and vice-presidential nominees.



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hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2024, 02:15:21 PM »
The mask has come off Karl Rhoads. He's been playing it safe but now it should be obvious to everyone what he really stands for.

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ren

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rpoL98

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2024, 02:32:55 PM »

changemyoil66

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2024, 02:42:05 PM »


Has any red states kept DNC people off a presidential ballot?

Rocky

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2024, 04:21:43 PM »
These guys lost me on the first sentence . . .
"The legislature finds that citizens of this State have the right to expect that public servants be people of integrity, and not people who have committed actions that threaten democracy or undermine the vote of the people."

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2024/bills/SB2392_.HTM

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ren

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2024, 04:26:11 PM »
These guys lost me on the first sentence . . .
"The legislature finds that citizens of this State have the right to expect that public servants be people of integrity, and not people who have committed actions that threaten democracy or undermine the vote of the people."

oh the irony as to the author of this bill...Karl Rhoads....as he has always undermined the 2a and is as loyal as a snake...
Hawaii memory is short...

https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/3044/Federal-Court-Ruling-Sen-Karl-Rhoads-participated-in-Honolulu-County-Council-Kickback-scheme

Rhoads is an attorney.  McMillan is a long-time political insider.  Some people may actually believe that these two are not criminals.  Released from prison and now married to Mirikitani, Sharon Bynum is not one of them.  In a recent column posted on HawaiiReporter, she explains:

    His trusted senior aide, Cindy McMillan…was given immunity for her cooperation and testimony. She quickly appeared to benefit by her cooperation and was given a choice position with one of the mayor’s favorite consultants. Later, she was appointed to Councilmember Duke Bainum’s staff. Shortly thereafter, she became a Director for Pacific Communications. Her husband, an attorney, couldn’t keep a job and is now serving as a State Representative.


this is not the first time Rhoads tried kicking someone off a ballot
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/2899/Rep-Karl-Rhoads-Oahu-Co-Democrats-try-to-knock-Iraq-War-Vet-off-HD-28-ballot

Hawaii Republican Party Executive Director Dylan Nonaka released the following statement in reaction to the lawsuit filed today by Lynne Matusow and Anthony Y. Chang against Republican candidate David Chang:

"It is sad that Karl Rhoads and his supporters want to focus on petty political distractions instead of the issues facing the 28th district.

“People of House District 28th should know who the ‘residents’ filing these petty complaints are.  Lynne Matusow is an Oahu County Democratic Party official who has developed a habit of filing complaints against Mr. Chang to distract the campaign away from Karl Rhoads’ record of raising taxes and hurting small business.  Anthony Chang is a former staffer at the Democratic Party who was paid to do one of the dirtiest jobs in politics-- follow opposing candidates around with a video camera.  These people are not concerned residents and this is not an honest complaint.

“The State Office of Elections has already ruled that this complaint has no merit.  It makes you wonder how desperate the Rhoads campaign has to be to continue to pursue this baseless case.

“David Chang will win this election on the streets and doorsteps of the voters of his district, it is disappointing that Karl Rhoads wants to try and win it in a court room."

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QUIETShooter

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2024, 04:38:49 PM »
These guys lost me on the first sentence . . .
"The legislature finds that citizens of this State have the right to expect that public servants be people of integrity, and not people who have committed actions that threaten democracy or undermine the vote of the people."



Civil Beat reported that Hawaii has been awarded the prestigious distinction of being THE MOST CORRUPT STATE IN THE NATION.

So yeah.  The first sentence is inappropriate if it refers to the "public servants" ::) ::) ::) of this state.

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2024, 07:46:19 PM »
How do we go after his seat? Surely his constituents must be sick of him by now
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changemyoil66

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2024, 08:14:34 PM »
How do we go after his seat? Surely his constituents must be sick of him by now
Theyre all morons and support him. He won the last election by a landslide.

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QUIETShooter

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2024, 08:26:51 AM »
Probably a lot of complacency also.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2024, 08:33:19 AM »
Probably a lot of complacency also.

I mean he did get over 3,000 votes the last election.  I haven't seen 1 business in the area with his name on it like how politicians get support during an election year.  Or 1 sign on a building or home.

Westside_Redneck

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2024, 11:40:26 AM »
If the Supreme Court rules in February that Trump CAN be removed from a State's ballot, what are we left to do should our crooked blue government have their way and remove Trump from the ballot in November?

I don't like who we are left with in terms of third-party candidates, so what do we do—throw away our ballots from the mail and sit out this election cycle?

If anybody wants to hit the streets against these guys for infringing on our basic democratic right to elect our leaders, I'm with you! I'm sick and f&*^in tired of our current president coming after our guns, making our gas, food, etc. expensive beyond all hell, and letting crime, lawlessness, and homelessness run rampant!

hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2024, 11:45:58 AM »
I mean he did get over 3,000 votes the last election.  I haven't seen 1 business in the area with his name on it like how politicians get support during an election year.  Or 1 sign on a building or home.

I've been listening to Bannon's War Room a lot lately and a the majority of states have recently formed conservative Political Action Committees. Hifico seems to be focused solely on firearms so the scope is limited as far as attracting funds from that community. Does anyone know if there's some sort of Hawaii Freedom PAC that supports candidates with conservative values? Most people running for office are too afraid to run attack ads or take controversial stances... for instance mail in voting fraud. It's pretty clear being on the defensive just makes us lose slower and isn't really working, and I think there's a lot of potential supporters out there who are too shy to say how they feel in public, but if they knew other people felt the same way they would let it rip.

My suggestion for the first campaign:

"Who actually voted for Karl Rhoads?"
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hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2024, 11:46:29 AM »
The F in Communism stands for Food

Westside_Redneck

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2024, 12:27:37 PM »
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Most people running for office are too afraid to run attack ads or take controversial stances... for instance mail in voting fraud. It's pretty clear being on the defensive just makes us lose slower and isn't really working, and I think there's a lot of potential supporters out there who are too shy to say how they feel in public, but if they knew other people felt the same way they would let it rip.

Agreed, :thumbsup:

 however I must ask. What are the conservatives afraid of around here? Have hawaii conservative candidates in the past been targets of assault, harassed in public, attempted murder, death threats? What's scaring these folks into submission?

On another note, say Trump remains on the ballet and we continue to receive mail in ballots come November. What do we do with those, do we...
-throw them out and vote in person on election day.
-fill out our mail in ballots and take them to a polling place on election day to deliver the filled ballot in person?

changemyoil66

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2024, 12:35:04 PM »
I've been listening to Bannon's War Room a lot lately and a the majority of states have recently formed conservative Political Action Committees. Hifico seems to be focused solely on firearms so the scope is limited as far as attracting funds from that community. Does anyone know if there's some sort of Hawaii Freedom PAC that supports candidates with conservative values? Most people running for office are too afraid to run attack ads or take controversial stances... for instance mail in voting fraud. It's pretty clear being on the defensive just makes us lose slower and isn't really working, and I think there's a lot of potential supporters out there who are too shy to say how they feel in public, but if they knew other people felt the same way they would let it rip.

My suggestion for the first campaign:

"Who actually voted for Karl Rhoads?"

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changemyoil66

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2024, 12:38:26 PM »
If the Supreme Court rules in February that Trump CAN be removed from a State's ballot, what are we left to do should our crooked blue government have their way and remove Trump from the ballot in November?

I don't like who we are left with in terms of third-party candidates, so what do we do—throw away our ballots from the mail and sit out this election cycle?

If anybody wants to hit the streets against these guys for infringing on our basic democratic right to elect our leaders, I'm with you! I'm sick and f&*^in tired of our current president coming after our guns, making our gas, food, etc. expensive beyond all hell, and letting crime, lawlessness, and homelessness run rampant!

Even without SCOTUS, what the blue states are showing is that they can remove anyone from a ballot for any reason. Trump was never convicted of anything, and most of it, he wasn't even charged for (no day in court to defend himself).  And even these had no evidence, but the DOJ is weaponized.

We live in a banana republic that we think we have freedom.  But what we have instead is permission from the government until they decide to lay the hammer.

The US learned to control the people, they cannot go full communist or obvious corrupt leadership. 

Rocky

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2024, 12:49:34 PM »
If the Supreme Court rules in February that Trump CAN be removed from a State's ballot, what are we left to do should our crooked blue government have their way and remove Trump from the ballot in November?
Write in ?

On another note, say Trump remains on the ballet and we continue to receive mail in ballots come November. What do we do with those, do we...
-throw them out and vote in person on election day.
-fill out our mail in ballots and take them to a polling place on election day to deliver the filled ballot in person?
Be a libby and do both  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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hvybarrels

Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2024, 01:02:37 PM »
however I must ask. What are the conservatives afraid of around here? Have hawaii conservative candidates in the past been targets of assault, harassed in public, attempted murder, death threats? What's scaring these folks into submission?

You don't need mobs and death threats if you can ruin someone's career for having the wrong opinions. That's the way it used to work, but now Rhoads has stepped too far and even many Democrats are shocked at how anti-democratic their party has become.

What we really need are ballot harvesting campaigns. Dems made it legal, so by not using it we are forfeiting the election.
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