When I was still working my company was working on the housing projects in Kapolei.  Single family homes.

I remember the developer rep telling me that 4 out of the 8 homes in a certain cul-de-sac were bought by the same person.  These are new homes, mind you.  Person bought 4.  One time.

Person was from Hong Kong..........

When I was still working my company was working on the housing projects in Kapolei.  Single family homes.

I remember the developer rep telling me that 4 out of the 8 homes in a certain cul-de-sac were bought by the same person.  These are new homes, mind you.  Person bought 4.  One time.

Person was from Hong Kong..........

I met a client recently in Port Lock.  All her surrounding neighbors are from China.  She's Chinese too, but married to a local haole guy. She mentioned that she hasn't seen anyone in any of the homes in a while.

In hindsight why they decided to build affordable housing in the middle of Honolulu - prime real estate - was a dumb idea or a very veiled scheme to line pockets of politicians and others.
The State has lots of land in Barbers Point and laid there for years. The City also has a parcel in Kunia down the street from my home.

In hindsight why they decided to build affordable housing in the middle of Honolulu - prime real estate - was a dumb idea or a very veiled scheme to line pockets of politicians and others.
The State has lots of land in Barbers Point and laid there for years. The City also has a parcel in Kunia down the street from my home.

I'm a townie. Lived in Moiliili, Kapahulu, and Kakaako. Very close to places to eat, work, gym, shop, etc...So if there was an affordable housing at BP or Kunia, we would not have bought it.  I get irraz sitting in traffic, so to do this daily would not be a good thing (daily morning and after work traffic).  We sacrifice square footage for convenience. Plus with a baby, being close to grandparents home is a huge deal. Both are within a 10 min drive.

Our family had a home in Ewa we were going to buy when they were just developing it. My parents cancelled and lost their $5K deposit cause traffic sucked and since I was almost done with high school, it didn't make sense to transfer to Ewa side high school.  Our good friend who lived across the street moved there as well. But still went to my high school in town. His family moved back about 5 months later cause he was always late for school and both his parents still worked in town.  Luckily, they didn't sell there old place, but instead had his grandparents move in. So they ended up switching, he and his parents moved back to town and grandparents to the Ewa house.

You can afford living in town but the State and City can't advertise "affordable" at a Lamborghini dealership. Land is pricier around Honolulu - why? as you stated - convenience. Now if you want affordable there has to be tradeoffs. You want a Bugatti but don't want to pay for it? There's a Kia dealership by the airport.

Jurisdiction is all that's required.  There's no provision that the individual be a citizen, legal resident, etc.

The constitution doesn't say one has to be a citizen to vote either.
A very strict interpretation of the 14th amendment would re-write a number of laws and case law on what non-citizens would be allowed to do, especially 1st amendment rights (off the top of my head)

Don't derail the thread like your fishy friend.
I'm not addressing that at all, my point was a public servant stated that he doesn't care about the Constitution. Pro 2a or not I find that concerning.

OATH OF OFFICE

      Section 4.  All eligible public officers, before entering upon the duties of their respective offices, shall take and subscribe to the following oath or affirmation:  "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Hawaii, and that I will faithfully discharge my duties as ........................ to the best of my ability."  As used in this section, "eligible public officers" means the governor, the lieutenant governor, the members of both houses of the legislature, the members of the board of education, the members of the national guard, State or county employees who possess police powers, district court judges, and all those whose appointment requires the consent of the senate. [Ren and am Const Con 1978 and election Nov 7, 1978; am SB 1440 (1992) and election Nov 3, 1992]

According to the article Awa didn't say he didn't care about the constitution, the article said Real Estate developer Peter Savio made that comment

Awa stated “So argue the unconstitutionality all you want, this is the right thing to do,” Considering that it doesn't actually seem to be unconstitutional, from what I can find, it is a moot point. It would be like him saying he didn't care about the constitutional right to free dolphin rides.

Here is my thought.
If we had restrictions on outside investors, maybe my grand babies would still be here.
Maybe I could drive down the street and visit them.
Maybe I could pick them up after school and give them a hug and buy them ice cream.
But I can't do that now,

The constitution doesn't say one has to be a citizen to vote either.
A very strict interpretation of the 14th amendment would re-write a number of laws and case law on what non-citizens would be allowed to do, especially 1st amendment rights (off the top of my head)

Only someone who doesn't understand the US Constitution, Article I, Section 3, Clause 1, Article I, Section 4, Clause 1, the 15th Amendment, the 19th Amendment, the 24th Amendment, and the 26th Amendment.

In a nutshell, the federal government doesn't hold elections that involve the general population.  That duty falls to the states.  Only after the polls close and the votes tallied do the states actually vote in the electoral college.  The Senate was an exception, where the state legislatures picked their members to be in the US Senate.  The 17th Amendment changed that to a popular vote at the state level to match the House elections.

So, in a nutshell, the Constitution doesn't have to specify only citizens may vote, because the Constitution governs the feds.  And since the Feds don't hold elections outside of the electoral college, your point is moot.

I'll be exercising my Constitutional right at the range this weekend if anyone wants to discuss about the sky being blue.

I'll be exercising my Constitutional right at the range this weekend if anyone wants to discuss about the sky being blue.

You're exercising your constitutional privilege. FIFY

no to foreign real estate buyers but yes to illegal immigrants
https://mchb.tvisdata.hrsa.gov/Narratives/Overview/a0ac94c0-8538-417e-85c9-da6ac5c06603#:~:text=According%20to%20the%202018%205,majority%20are%20from%20the%20Philippines.

no make sense

no to foreign real estate buyers but yes to illegal immigrants
https://mchb.tvisdata.hrsa.gov/Narratives/Overview/a0ac94c0-8538-417e-85c9-da6ac5c06603#:~:text=According%20to%20the%202018%205,majority%20are%20from%20the%20Philippines.

no make sense

Real Estate is an investment scam that’s also used by hostile foreign powers for money laundering and infiltration/subversion

Eventually there will be a devastating crash back to reality wiping out vast amounts of imaginary wealth, but in the meantime at least we can stop speculators and criminal organizations from making the inflation worse.

The hearing is rescheduled to later.

Here is my thought.
If we had restrictions on outside investors, maybe my grand babies would still be here.
Maybe I could drive down the street and visit them.
Maybe I could pick them up after school and give them a hug and buy them ice cream.
But I can't do that now,

This is 1 major reason why we haven't left yet. I want grandparents to spend lots of time with grandchild.  My friend in Vegas has 2 kids and her parents lives in Vegas too. The way the 2 kids interact with grandma/grandpa is your normal fun and laughter.  WHen they come back to HI and interact with the husbands mom (grandma), it's like she's a total stranger. Zero interaction, laughter, smiling.  More like being next to a stranger.

This is 1 major reason why we haven't left yet. I want grandparents to spend lots of time with grandchild.  My friend in Vegas has 2 kids and her parents lives in Vegas too. The way the 2 kids interact with grandma/grandpa is your normal fun and laughter.  WHen they come back to HI and interact with the husbands mom (grandma), it's like she's a total stranger. Zero interaction, laughter, smiling.  More like being next to a stranger.

Proximity isn't the main factor.

I lived in the same house with my mother's mom and dad (actually her step-dad).  There was very little laughter and fun between us 3 kids and the grandparents.  Only my mother took the time to do those things -- playing board games, taking us places, teaching us things, etc.  My grandmother was a different person when we traveled, I guess because she was not working 2 jobs and worrying about all the bills.  My grandfather basically terrified me.  I can't remember him ever having a conversation with me.

So, while presence is important, the real key is whether the adults make the effort to be part of the kids' lives.  Many parents who deploy for military duty use daily Skype/Facetime sessions to be with their kids.  If you make the effort, it means more than just being in the same room.

Only someone who doesn't understand the US Constitution, Article I, Section 3, Clause 1, Article I, Section 4, Clause 1, the 15th Amendment, the 19th Amendment, the 24th Amendment, and the 26th Amendment.

In a nutshell, the federal government doesn't hold elections that involve the general population.  That duty falls to the states.  Only after the polls close and the votes tallied do the states actually vote in the electoral college.  The Senate was an exception, where the state legislatures picked their members to be in the US Senate.  The 17th Amendment changed that to a popular vote at the state level to match the House elections.

So, in a nutshell, the Constitution doesn't have to specify only citizens may vote, because the Constitution governs the feds.  And since the Feds don't hold elections outside of the electoral college, your point is moot.

So you are saying that a state could allow non-citizens to vote and that would be okay since the constitution governs the feds? Mull that over a bit first, it is a rhetorical question.

The point isn't moot because voting isn't the only issue that arises if you claim that the 14th amendment covers citizens and non-citizens equally. Constitutional rights don't even cover all citizens equally (Children for example)

So you are saying that a state could allow non-citizens to vote and that would be okay since the constitution governs the feds? Mull that over a bit first, it is a rhetorical question.

The point isn't moot because voting isn't the only issue that arises if you claim that the 14th amendment covers citizens and non-citizens equally. Constitutional rights don't even cover all citizens equally (Children for example)

Non citizens can buy and own guns in HI.

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Proximity isn't the main factor.

I lived in the same house with my mother's mom and dad (actually her step-dad).  There was very little laughter and fun between us 3 kids and the grandparents.  Only my mother took the time to do those things -- playing board games, taking us places, teaching us things, etc.  My grandmother was a different person when we traveled, I guess because she was not working 2 jobs and worrying about all the bills.  My grandfather basically terrified me.  I can't remember him ever having a conversation with me.

So, while presence is important, the real key is whether the adults make the effort to be part of the kids' lives.  Many parents who deploy for military duty use daily Skype/Facetime sessions to be with their kids.  If you make the effort, it means more than just being in the same room.

So he just explained why he made an effort to stay in Hawai'i and you felt it necessary to tell him "this was my experience... Let me tell you how you should live your life based on my opinion."

Mac, how did you ever talk me into coming back to this retarded forum.