Hawaii Primary (Read 3695 times)

ren

Hawaii Primary
« on: August 11, 2024, 07:26:15 AM »
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macsak

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2024, 07:51:57 AM »

QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2024, 08:01:01 AM »
Those of us who want change will never give up.

The people who make fun of us most likely don't vote but quick to make fun and complain.

They don't realize they are the problem.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

drck1000

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2024, 11:44:05 AM »

macsak

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2024, 11:49:55 AM »

hvybarrels

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2024, 12:30:43 PM »
Iwamoto and Shafer victories indicate that the establishment is losing their iron fisted grip.

McDermott is a worthy challenger to Hirono.

Overall this was a very positive primary.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

drck1000

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2024, 12:39:34 PM »
your people like kim coco...
Yeah. Saiki very much against guns. You wouldn’t understand.

 :crazy:

 :rofl:

drck1000

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2024, 12:40:05 PM »
Iwamoto and Shafer victories indicate that the establishment is losing their iron fisted grip.

McDermott is a worthy challenger to Hirono.

Overall this was a very positive primary.
Hirono is another that I’ve seen more online dislike.

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2024, 04:37:52 PM »
I spoke to coco. He wants to ban assault rifles from everyone, even cops.

He thinks sensitive places are dumb cause cops or security cant protect u.

He was totally unaware of annual assault rilfe murders compared to handguns and knives and golf clubs. It was a " holy crapy, i didnt know that" moment.

But either way, cant do worst than saiki.

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zippz

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2024, 04:47:32 PM »
But either way, cant do worst than saiki.

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It can be worse.  Saiki is moderately liberal.  But a crazy liberal could replace him.  Progressives are gaining ground in Hawaii and someday could put a progressive speaker at the top.  And they control the committee chairs.

hvybarrels

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2024, 05:47:14 PM »
Saki was the chair and very corrupt. Lots of dark money flowing through his influence machine and he was a faithful tool of the billionaire class that runs this state.

Someone else will get the chair now, and not Coco since she's a freshmen. This means all the time and and resources invested in propping up Saki's machine are now useless and the donors will have to start all over again.

Yeah I don't think she's great for 2a rights at the moment (until mahus start standing their ground), but it's much easier for us to apply pressure when the rats are eating each other in a power struggle.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

oldfart

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2024, 10:10:02 PM »
Those of us who want change will never give up.

The people who make fun of us most likely don't vote but quick to make fun and complain.

They don't realize they are the problem.
....
I was just watching the news on TV and saw democrats spouting off about how the wonderful democrat party and kamala are going to save the state.

The very next story was about the real estate industry trying to make it easier to buy a home in Hawaii to prevent people from fleeing to other states. (Like my own family) 😟

When are hawaii voters going to realize they just keep shooting themselves in the foot?
What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2024, 08:12:08 AM »
I was a union member most of my working life.  There were times I didn't quite agree with the leadership.

Problem with Hawaii is our strong unions.  I understand people want job security to provide for their families and the leaders of the unions play on this.  Higher wages for the members equals more money for the union leaders and the union.

But I remember countless times when elections for union leaders came around, and the opposing candidate asks, what good is all these high wages if there is no work available?  What is better, high wages and no jobs or steady work at competitive wages?

The younger members usually vote for higher wages.  Visions of new F-150 and GMC Trucks dance in their minds then cry when they buy the truck and get laid off for lack of work.

Yeah, Hawaii citizens will shape their destiny in this banana republik.  And the elite in government and the unions will laugh all the way to the bank.

edited to add:  if you think things are bad now, it will be worse if the outcome in November favors the team that loves to tax you for everything AND the kitchen sink.  Let big government think, care for you, and tell you how high to jump.

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2024, 08:33:19 AM »


Yeah I don't think she's great for 2a rights at the moment (until mahus start standing their ground), but it's much easier for us to apply pressure when the rats are eating each other in a power struggle.

From my convo with him, I think there might be a chance that we can educate. His stance being against sensitive places and only being allowed to carry on the sidewalk was a positive thing.  This means that he doesn't just follow party lines.  Another example of a DNC member not following party lines for 2A related stuff is Rep Kila (Ewa Beach).

Versus Saiki who wouldn't listen or even give our side a chance.

But in the end, only time will tell. 

macsak

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2024, 08:52:22 AM »
if you keep referring to him as "him", there won't be any chance to educate...

From my convo with him, I think there might be a chance that we can educate. His stance being against sensitive places and only being allowed to carry on the sidewalk was a positive thing.  This means that he doesn't just follow party lines.  Another example of a DNC member not following party lines for 2A related stuff is Rep Kila (Ewa Beach).

Versus Saiki who wouldn't listen or even give our side a chance.

But in the end, only time will tell.

QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2024, 08:54:40 AM »
From my convo with him, I think there might be a chance that we can educate. His stance being against sensitive places and only being allowed to carry on the sidewalk was a positive thing.  This means that he doesn't just follow party lines.  Another example of a DNC member not following party lines for 2A related stuff is Rep Kila (Ewa Beach).

Versus Saiki who wouldn't listen or even give our side a chance.

But in the end, only time will tell.

Saki was the chair and very corrupt. Lots of dark money flowing through his influence machine and he was a faithful tool of the billionaire class that runs this state.

Someone else will get the chair now, and not Coco since she's a freshmen. This means all the time and and resources invested in propping up Saki's machine are now useless and the donors will have to start all over again.

Yeah I don't think she's great for 2a rights at the moment (until mahus start standing their ground), but it's much easier for us to apply pressure when the rats are eating each other in a power struggle.

So what does coco the boto identify as?  Male?  Female?  Bi-gender?  I'm confused and need to be educated.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2024, 09:58:09 AM »
So what does coco the boto identify as?  Male?  Female?  Bi-gender?  I'm confused and need to be educated.

Mahuwahine. I've worked with them before and it took me about half a day to stop noticing if they stay in character. They're not quite men and not quite women, something in between.
The ones I knew weren't the blue haired commies, though. Just average boring people with average boring jobs.

Some of them were raunchy and liked to gross out straight guys, but it wasn't malicious at all, just goofing around.
One time they started sharing stories of all the cops and judges and politicians that they slept with. That was kind of shocking. Apparently there's no shortage of people in power who have a taste for poly dollys.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2024, 10:07:15 AM »
if you keep referring to him as "him", there won't be any chance to educate...

He never told me how he would like to be addressed. 

I have no problem referring to him as a she/car/batman/fish/avocado/etc... either.  But the convo never came up as it didn't pertain to the 2A discussion we had.

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2024, 10:09:04 AM »
Mahuwahine. I've worked with them before and it took me about half a day to stop noticing if they stay in character. They're not quite men and not quite women, something in between.
The ones I knew weren't the blue haired commies, though. Just average boring people with average boring jobs.

Some of them were raunchy and liked to gross out straight guys, but it wasn't malicious at all, just goofing around.
One time they started sharing stories of all the cops and judges and politicians that they slept with. That was kind of shocking. Apparently there's no shortage of people in power who have a taste for poly dollys.

His mannerisms and clothing were of a woman.  But the body structure and face and voice was of a dude. 

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii Primary
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2024, 10:10:16 AM »
So what does coco the boto identify as?  Male?  Female?  Bi-gender?  I'm confused and need to be educated.

IDK, the convo never came up as it wasn't important. 

I don't ask people their pronouns when I talk to them.