"to an extent"
goalposts moved...

To an extent yes. It happens, once in a great while

mean

no focus...

don't you men, "i was wrong"?

"to an extent"
goalposts moved...

No goalpost moved. My statement was partially correct but I should have been more accurate which is why I listed the number of states that cancelled the primaries/caucuses.

I need to correct myself a bit, its not that there were no primaries/caucuses in 2020 rather that not every state held one. In 2020, 9 states cancelled their caucuses/primaries meaning voters in those states had no say in who became the republican candidate. This isn't unique to Trump though, the GOP and the Democrats have done this multiple times over the years. I think it is ironic that a bunch of republicans are upset that democrats didn't hold a primary again given the fact that the GOP has cancelled caucuses in the past.

Not to mention fact that none of them are going to vote Harris anyway. Who in the world would care if the opposing team picked a shitty player through an unfair hiring process? You should be glad they did what they did because if they had held a primary and someone else won the vote Trump would be having a harder time.

"A vote for 3rd party is a vote for Harris as it's 1 less vote to have to cheat to over come had you voted for Trump."

I don't even know how to respond to that statement it is so baseless. Everyone gets butt hurt about 3rd party votes, claiming it gives the other side a win. If I vote 3rd party you have no idea which side lost my vote. Maybe it is one less vote for Trump, maybe it is one less vote for Harris. So you think I am washing my hands by voting third party so I can do what? Not have to take blame regardless of which shitty candidate wins? We have an election between a turd sandwich and a douche and you are complaining that I am going to vote for the less popular but not insane 3rd party?

How about this for a motive: I want a stronger third party. Voting Trump or Harris doesn't accomplish that goal.

So which states did Kamala win?  Oh yeah, zero. I mean if you're looking for something, then I guess you found it.

You only quoted 1 part of my post, the rest explained what you think you're responding to. Nice try picking and choosing.

No goalpost moved. My statement was partially correct but I should have been more accurate which is why I listed the number of states that cancelled the primaries/caucuses.

More whataboutism

I need to correct myself a bit, ....

No, you don't get to "correct yourself" after others on here already corrected you. 

What you need to do is admit you took a week to come back and pretend nobody else corrected you first.

 

No, you don't get to "correct yourself" after others on here already corrected you. 

What you need to do is admit you took a week to come back and pretend nobody else corrected you first.

 

For other threads, like you said, he needs the last word. Too bad he won't get it here.

I love my country that's why I will never support Trump.  Country over party. That one man will ruin this country.  We can survive Kamala, we may not survive Trump.

I'll start with I fully support your right to have your own opinion, and good for you to post your decision in a place you know you are in the minority. That being said, I always see " Trump will ruin the country". Other than the main stream media, how did you come to that conclusion? Prior to covid we were all happy with the direction of the country. Granted, there was a political party out to destroy the man, but nobody was bitching about the hundreds of billions sent to fight a war in Ukraine, or Israel. Nobody was complaining about energy independence, or low  inflation, or low unemployment, that included private sector jobs. Now you vote for Harris because you love the country, but I'm going to guess  you agreed with the majority that said the country in on the wrong course, since 68% of the people felt that way, it has to include democrats. So again, I ask, how did you come to your conclusion?

Today (Thursday) is the last day to mail HI ballots to be sure they arrive at the election's office by election day, Tuesday, Nov 5th.

If you don't mail it today, drop boxes are available until 7PM on election day.

This has been a public service announcement.

 

Trump had 4 years to fix everything.   So that complaint has less meaning than people pretending the VP has all the day in Bidens policies.  Don't here people blaming Pence for Trump's policies. 

As for the border, Trump killed the border bill for politics. 

Kamala isn't perfect or even all that great,  but out of the only two options she is the lessor evil.   With the record early voting turnouts,  things are looking good for her chances to win.   

The Maga crowd is already spreading nonsense about election fraud.  Pathetic.

Have you noticed that when Harris is bitching about Trump killing the border bill, she never mentions it would have stopped, or even slowed illegal immigration? She touts it would add 1500 more border agents, but leaves out that they would need to let in 5000 a day before an intervention. Their job would've been to just "process" more illegal border crossers, then let them go in the United States. On top of that it would've made it impossible to reinstate the very effective  "remain in Mexico" policy . The crisis will only get exponentially worse if she does win, and institute her policies.

As far as election fraud, are you sure there isn't any? Are you sure things are working smoothly? I know there are 2 people in my household, and 3 ballots came. One for someone who hasn't lived in this home for 5 years.

Have you noticed that when Harris is bitching about Trump killing the border bill, she never mentions it would have stopped, or even slowed illegal immigration? She touts it would add 1500 more border agents, but leaves out that they would need to let in 5000 a day before an intervention. Their job would've been to just "process" more illegal border crossers, then let them go in the United States. On top of that it would've made it impossible to reinstate the very effective  "remain in Mexico" policy . The crisis will only get exponentially worse if she does win, and institute her policies.

As far as election fraud, are you sure there isn't any? Are you sure things are working smoothly? I know there are 2 people in my household, and 3 ballots came. One for someone who hasn't lived in this home for 5 years.

It also granted amnesty for all those here illegally already. But of course, the fake news leaves that out as a huge issue.

You left out that demographics also play a big role. If HI was pollled for Trump vs. Hyena, it would show up majority Hyena.  Same with gun polls to people who don't know what the 2A means or says. Honolulu's city cousnel's lawyer used a Star Bulletin poll to support their sensitive places brief.

I was travelling around the island the other day so i decided to do a " flag poll". According to that poll, Oahu is for Trump, results were 5 to 2. I understand some fear retribution if the show their support. The conclusion i came up with is the people in the Laie/kahuku area don't give a crap what you think.

Way back in my day, 2016, we used to go to the voting location that we were required to, by district. They had my information listed in a ledger, they proved my identification, gave me a paper ballot with a number they associated with my name. I voted then slid my ballot into a counting machine/vault. At the close of the polling place, the information was pulled from the machine to get a count of the vote by the 10pm news. The officials then had a couple months to hand count, and verify the validity of the vote. Then in January the electors voted in the President. I wasn't allowed to vote anywhere else, with a few exceptions where i could ask for a mail in ballot if i could not make it to my polling place on election day. My name would be removed from the ledger to insure I don't mail in, and in person vote. Nowadays fraud, or at least the ability, the lack of chain of command, and lack of a personal identification, make it impossible to secure the vote. We also now take a whole month to vote, and can't get a count for , what we have been told could be a month or more after election day, the vote. To those who support the latter system, what is wrong with the way it was done?

"It's not the people who vote that counts,
it's the people who count the votes."

--Joseph Stalin

So which states did Kamala win?  Oh yeah, zero. I mean if you're looking for something, then I guess you found it.

You only quoted 1 part of my post, the rest explained what you think you're responding to. Nice try picking and choosing.

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I quoted your whole post. Check again.

It doesn't matter how many states Kamala won or Trump won. Parties are private organizations and they can choose their candidate however they choose.

Why are you even complaining, were you actually going to vote democrat if it were a different candidate? Are you upset that they picked such a terrible candidate? You should be happy, picking her, I think, gave Trump the win.

No, you don't get to "correct yourself" after others on here already corrected you. 

What you need to do is admit you took a week to come back and pretend nobody else corrected you first.

 

Really, that is your rebuttal? Me taking a week to reply is somehow evidence of anything?

Gosh you are desperate for a win. 

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I quoted your whole post. Check again.

It doesn't matter how many states Kamala won or Trump won. Parties are private organizations and they can choose their candidate however they choose.

Why are you even complaining, were you actually going to vote democrat if it were a different candidate? Are you upset that they picked such a terrible candidate? You should be happy, picking her, I think, gave Trump the win.

Wrong.

The Democrats built so much of this campaign on saving Democracy so they can hopefully gain traction from all the Jan 6th rhetoric -- even though most voters interviewed have no idea what happened on that day -- just what the media tells them.

So, it literally does matter when the person supposedly defending Democracy takes the nomination away from the winner without having participated in the primary proess at all.

Today (Thursday) is the last day to mail HI ballots to be sure they arrive at the election's office by election day, Tuesday, Nov 5th.

If you don't mail it today, drop boxes are available until 7PM on election day.

This has been a public service announcement.

 

Yeah.  I plan to poot mine in the drop box as close to 6:59 pm on election day.

Way back in my day, 2016, we used to go to the voting location that we were required to, by district. They had my information listed in a ledger, they proved my identification, gave me a paper ballot with a number they associated with my name. I voted then slid my ballot into a counting machine/vault. At the close of the polling place, the information was pulled from the machine to get a count of the vote by the 10pm news. The officials then had a couple months to hand count, and verify the validity of the vote. Then in January the electors voted in the President. I wasn't allowed to vote anywhere else, with a few exceptions where i could ask for a mail in ballot if i could not make it to my polling place on election day. My name would be removed from the ledger to insure I don't mail in, and in person vote. Nowadays fraud, or at least the ability, the lack of chain of command, and lack of a personal identification, make it impossible to secure the vote. We also now take a whole month to vote, and can't get a count for , what we have been told could be a month or more after election day, the vote. To those who support the latter system, what is wrong with the way it was done?

This is the way it was and should be.

Very hard to commit fraud and cheat.  Which is why it no longer exists.  Screw all the democrats who claim this old way suppresses certain demographics from voting.

The demographic they are talking about is just plain lazy with a serious problem of self entitlement.

This is the way it was and should be.

Very hard to commit fraud and cheat.  Which is why it no longer exists.  Screw all the democrats who claim this old way suppresses certain demographics from voting.

The demographic they are talking about is just plain lazy with a serious problem of self entitlement.

I think that is what i have an issue with. I would assume both sides should be doing everything they can to make the elections impossible to cheat. To alleviate any implication of fraud. To PROVE that their candidate is the better candidate. Anything less just looks like you know you need to cheat to win. That is why ask what is wrong with how we did it before? We have a fair election, and a quick initial result, and the ability to prove the validity of all the votes.