Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed (Read 8284 times)

macsak

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2025, 01:51:17 PM »
is there proof that he took the money?
perhaps the FBI cleared him because there is no proof he took the money
see how your whataboutism can be used against you?

why does congress have to look into it?
he was already cleared

I haven't found any specific information to explain the reasoning. It is possible that whatever conversation was had did not contain the requisite quid pro quo to clearly show it was a bribe. So for example, if you got stopped by a cop for a speeding violation, you handed him your car wallet with the insurance, registration, etc. and inside was $200, the cop would have a hard time showing you were trying to bribe him. There would need to be some level of communication that established the money was in exchange for some type of favorable treatment. Absent this, a prosecution would have trouble.

I try to look at the case from both sides and see it from the angle that Homan was doing nothing wrong but the big question I can't answer is what possible justifiable reason would there for Homan to accept such a sum of money? I agree, Homan did seem like a principled, mission oriented, tough, no BS guy to get the job done. If Homan really didn't do anything wrong, then I think he should welcome a congressional investigation. That's what I would want if I were innocent, have congress look at it so they can publicly clear me without question of political favor.

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Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2025, 03:17:26 PM »
is there proof that he took the money?
perhaps the FBI cleared him because there is no proof he took the money
see how your whataboutism can be used against you?

why does congress have to look into it?
he was already cleared
What’s interesting here is that Dems not only could care less about open and rank corruption on the part of their political apparatchiks, they view it as Dem bona fides - I.e. “wish I was him/her/it - damn that was good!”

Whereas the rest of us view the same corruption as treasonous with respect to our vision of what a leader and true American should be, and we would DEMAND their removal if proven true - like this guy here - anyone else old enough to remember this one?

“Rep. Robert Livingston, R-La. Announced his resignation in late 1998 after being chosen as the next House speaker, citing adulterous affairs. Livingston shocked his colleagues by announcing his decision to the House as it debated the impeachment of President Bill Clinton. He left Congress in March 1999.” - hilarious!  Bill kept right on going, this hapless guy - dung heap of history in a dark room.

Anyway, the Dems know this, desperately what to destroy Homan - which would publicly discredit ICE & Trump’s core policy agenda - which is why they floated the anonymous charges in the first place.

Therefore, if there was ANY actual evidence of this charge, no matter how spurious, it would have damn well been out there day ONE!

They’re not even still trying to dry-heave this thing.  Not only was there no fire - there was no smoke either.

To believe otherwise implies the belief that Trump has the loyalty of everyone in the FBI, CIA, blah blah blah - that’s just too incredible to believe.

It never was a thing - it’s not that it was somehow hermetically sealed up by Trump.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2025, 12:34:24 PM »
please show me where i said that...

I didn't say you said that, I was asking if that was your position. Note the question mark at the end of the sentence, that means it is a question.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2025, 12:41:50 PM »
is there proof that he took the money?
perhaps the FBI cleared him because there is no proof he took the money
see how your whataboutism can be used against you?

why does congress have to look into it?
he was already cleared

I haven't seen any proof made public at this point, but there is an alleged recording of the incident.
Sure, it is also possible the undercover agent didn't complete the transaction to hand over actual funds.

You could who could help clear up these questions? A congressional inquiry. Why have congress look into it? Because there is a lack of trust that the FBI is being honest. Because someone is making allegations that there was a crime by Homan and that the FBI is covering it up.

Is it that hard to conceive it possible that Homan is dirty and Trump had it covered up? Do you always trust cops investigating other cops to do the right thing, you always trust them when they say "nothing there, case closed"?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2025, 12:50:18 PM »

Therefore, if there was ANY actual evidence of this charge, no matter how spurious, it would have damn well been out there day ONE!



Have to disagree with this conclusion. The release of such information would create all sorts of problems for an actual prosecution of Homan. For starters it goes against standard operating procedures to come out with public statements like this and it could also tank the investigation from proceeding further. So for example if Homan wasn't the only target but there was a network of people accepting bribes, the public announcement of Homan's alleged crime would hamper getting all the other suspects. Good FBI agents aren't going to waste months or years of work on a huge case to have them lose in court because the public release of all the information screwed their case.

changemyoil66

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2025, 01:04:42 PM »

Have to disagree with this conclusion. The release of such information would create all sorts of problems for an actual prosecution of Homan. For starters it goes against standard operating procedures to come out with public statements like this and it could also tank the investigation from proceeding further. So for example if Homan wasn't the only target but there was a network of people accepting bribes, the public announcement of Homan's alleged crime would hamper getting all the other suspects. Good FBI agents aren't going to waste months or years of work on a huge case to have them lose in court because the public release of all the information screwed their case.

And yet a news story about it won't alert anyone else right? lol, keep trying.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2025, 02:43:24 PM »
And yet a news story about it won't alert anyone else right? lol, keep trying.

A news story after the case is closed. How about you think for yourself instead of being a Trump lemming.

changemyoil66

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2025, 04:05:51 PM »
A news story after the case is closed. How about you think for yourself instead of being a Trump lemming.

Typical reply when someone has no facts. 

Isn't this about Homan?  Seems like Trump lives rent free in your head.

Thanks for playing.

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Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2025, 10:00:18 PM »

Have to disagree with this conclusion. The release of such information would create all sorts of problems for an actual prosecution of Homan. For starters it goes against standard operating procedures to come out with public statements like this and it could also tank the investigation from proceeding further. So for example if Homan wasn't the only target but there was a network of people accepting bribes, the public announcement of Homan's alleged crime would hamper getting all the other suspects. Good FBI agents aren't going to waste months or years of work on a huge case to have them lose in court because the public release of all the information screwed their case.
Hmmm… none of these considerations seemed to weigh on the Dems when they manufactured and distributed the completely fake Steele dossier against Trump - or any other of their numerous governmental weaponizations against Trump and his businesses, etc.

Such attentiveness and concern for strict due process is not their reputation.

If they are such lunatics when it comes to the manufacturing and public distribution of falsehoods and slander - actual evidence of wrongdoing by Homan would be simulcast across the entire Borg network, along with being etched on a platinum plate and launched into interstellar space, before the sun set that very day in DC.
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changemyoil66

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2025, 08:23:34 AM »
Hmmm… none of these considerations seemed to weigh on the Dems when they manufactured and distributed the completely fake Steele dossier against Trump - or any other of their numerous governmental weaponizations against Trump and his businesses, etc.

Such attentiveness and concern for strict due process is not their reputation.

If they are such lunatics when it comes to the manufacturing and public distribution of falsehoods and slander - actual evidence of wrongdoing by Homan would be simulcast across the entire Borg network, along with being etched on a platinum plate and launched into interstellar space, before the sun set that very day in DC.

He doesn't know what due process is or when it applies.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2025, 12:19:02 PM »
Hmmm… none of these considerations seemed to weigh on the Dems when they manufactured and distributed the completely fake Steele dossier against Trump - or any other of their numerous governmental weaponizations against Trump and his businesses, etc.

Such attentiveness and concern for strict due process is not their reputation.

If they are such lunatics when it comes to the manufacturing and public distribution of falsehoods and slander - actual evidence of wrongdoing by Homan would be simulcast across the entire Borg network, along with being etched on a platinum plate and launched into interstellar space, before the sun set that very day in DC.

Law enforcement organizations are not homogenous groups, you can have a small pocket of bad actors engage in something like the Steele dossier. Because one team of agents would compromise integrity or a case doesn't mean another team would.

My position on this is simple, a very serious allegation is being made and it should be investigated in a transparent manner. If Homan did nothing wrong then let an outside agency have a look and verify it. We have three branches of government for a reason, this will show the public that Homan did nothing wrong and that Trump isn't covering for his guy.

changemyoil66

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2025, 02:33:01 PM »
Law enforcement organizations are not homogenous groups, you can have a small pocket of bad actors engage in something like the Steele dossier. Because one team of agents would compromise integrity or a case doesn't mean another team would.

My position on this is simple, a very serious allegation is being made and it should be investigated in a transparent manner. If Homan did nothing wrong then let an outside agency have a look and verify it. We have three branches of government for a reason, this will show the public that Homan did nothing wrong and that Trump isn't covering for his guy.

How come no "outside" agency was available for Trump with all of his issues?  Where were you asking for this back then? 

Or like usual, are you trying to justify another wrong post.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2025, 06:20:49 PM »
How come no "outside" agency was available for Trump with all of his issues?  Where were you asking for this back then? 

Or like usual, are you trying to justify another wrong post.

Congress has investigated issues of alleged wrongdoing by the executive branch before, they hold hearings all the time. Lindsey Graham led the investigation into the Steel dossier investigation, so the premise to your question is wrong. It is also whataboutism. An allegation of serious wrongdoing is made, why not let congress see the files so they can clear Homan's name?


changemyoil66

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2025, 08:26:23 PM »
Congress has investigated issues of alleged wrongdoing by the executive branch before, they hold hearings all the time. Lindsey Graham led the investigation into the Steel dossier investigation, so the premise to your question is wrong. It is also whataboutism. An allegation of serious wrongdoing is made, why not let congress see the files so they can clear Homan's name?
U didnt answer as u have none.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2025, 04:04:36 PM »
U didnt answer as u have none.

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Liar, I just gave you one. Re-read my statement until you find it. Maybe you just don't know that Lindsey Graham is in Congress, which is not within the DOJ...

Either way your comment is whataboutism and avoiding the issue I raised.

macsak

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2025, 04:46:34 PM »
focus

homan was not in the executive branch at the time...

Congress has investigated issues of alleged wrongdoing by the executive branch before, they hold hearings all the time. Lindsey Graham led the investigation into the Steel dossier investigation, so the premise to your question is wrong. It is also whataboutism. An allegation of serious wrongdoing is made, why not let congress see the files so they can clear Homan's name?

changemyoil66

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2025, 06:59:16 PM »
Liar, I just gave you one. Re-read my statement until you find it. Maybe you just don't know that Lindsey Graham is in Congress, which is not within the DOJ...

Either way your comment is whataboutism and avoiding the issue I raised.
Hahahha wrong again.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2025, 08:49:31 PM »
It's pretty simple. 

If an investigation is closed, it's closed.  Unless new evidence is discovered or proof that the investigation was tainted, then opening up another investigation is not only political BS, but a total waste of tax payer money.

What EEF wants to do is what most in the judicial system refer to as a fishing expedition.  You have no new evidence beyond what was already considered in the fir investigation, but you want authority to continue upending this man and his family's lives because you lost.  Plain and simple.

I would call it a witch hunt, but we know who the witch is....

https://themillenniumreport.com/2019/04/its-true-hillary-clinton-really-did-join-a-witches-coven/



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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2025, 09:57:25 AM »
You left out the word "allegedly" in the title. 

He was not charged after a complete investigation, so your topic is absolutely false.  You're guilty of libel and defamation.

This is why we can''t let the anti-Trump forces disrupt his cabinet members's efforts to do the job Trump was elected to do.

Thomas Hooooo-man!


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eyeeatingfish

Re: Tom Homan accepted bribe of $50,000, investigation closed
« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2025, 10:49:11 AM »
focus

homan was not in the executive branch at the time...

What does that matter?