Government shutdown (Read 10444 times)

Westside_Redneck

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #100 on: November 07, 2025, 11:38:49 AM »
Trump had a morning breakfast meeting with GOP Senators.  He warned them that failing to open government will hurt them in the midterms/primaries just like it hurt the party in this week's elections.  He's pushing hard to go nuclear and eliminate the filibuster.  The senate majority leader, Thune, said he hasn't changed his mind on taking such a dangerous approach, and that he doesn't think they can get the needed votes to change the rules anyway.

Trump also said that after Nov, he won't/can't fund SNAP without Congress passing either a budget or a CSR.  He doesn't have the funds in a way that authorizes him to move the money to cover SNAP benefits which is about $8 Billion per month.  The emergency funds for SNAP covering 50% of entitlements is $4.65B, but the fund only has $5B.

It's still going to take weeks at least for the emergency funds to be sent, so even that isn't an effective bandaid after 42 million households are supposed to have gotten deposits by the 3rd or 5th of Nov.

Dems are making this harder than it ought to be.  Nobody should be jumping through administrative hoops to find and distribute funds.  It should have already been passed before the first of October.


I hope that this government shutdown will hurt the Dems worse 10x than the Republicans come the midterms!

At this point I am in favor of keeping that government shut down until the "useful idiots" that make up 85% of the party at this point wake up and smell the fat $#!+ coffee they are being served by their selfish senators (looking at you Bozo & $hatz).

I hope the useful idiots come to their f@#%ing senses and turn on their blue-@$$3d constituents when it comes to voting time, seeing them as the ones to blame for the 2 1/2 (possibly +) months worth of pain they caused.

NY, CA, NJ, VA were all off-season elections that purely banked on the short term pain of the government shutdown and months of media driven TDS. The movement against them has got to remain united, America first, constitution first, and no in-fighting EVER!

It's good to have diversity of ideas but PLEASE until we secure a super majority next midterm keep your zionist conspiracy theories, uniparty black-pilling, tariff tantrums, and isolationist idiocy to your GOD D@MNED SELVES!!!  >:(

changemyoil66

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #101 on: November 07, 2025, 12:05:05 PM »

I hope that this government shutdown will hurt the Dems worse 10x than the Republicans come the midterms!

At this point I am in favor of keeping that government shut down until the "useful idiots" that make up 85% of the party at this point wake up and smell the fat $#!+ coffee they are being served by their selfish senators (looking at you Bozo & $hatz).

I hope the useful idiots come to their f@#%ing senses and turn on their blue-@$$3d constituents when it comes to voting time, seeing them as the ones to blame for the 2 1/2 (possibly +) months worth of pain they caused.

NY, CA, NJ, VA were all off-season elections that purely banked on the short term pain of the government shutdown and months of media driven TDS. The movement against them has got to remain united, America first, constitution first, and no in-fighting EVER!

It's good to have diversity of ideas but PLEASE until we secure a super majority next midterm keep your zionist conspiracy theories, uniparty black-pilling, tariff tantrums, and isolationist idiocy to your GOD D@MNED SELVES!!!  >:(

Trump posted about how this is currrently hurting the GOP for some elections that have taken place.

Schummer is saying the DNC wants a 1 year extetion of the "subsidies" for the ACA and they will sign a temp bill or something.

I hope the GOP doesn't give in because 1 year form now, the DNC will do the same.

zippz

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2025, 02:12:50 PM »
Best way to end the shutdown is if the fed employees union makes a harsh stand against Democrats.

macsak

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2025, 02:16:05 PM »
i was in washington dc the end of october and there were big banners on the union buildings supporting trump and the gop agins the shutdown
forgot to take pictures...

Best way to end the shutdown is if the fed employees union makes a harsh stand against Democrats.

Westside_Redneck

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2025, 03:15:30 PM »
Trump posted about how this is currrently hurting the GOP for some elections that have taken place.

That's because the Dems have an insane amount of control over mainstream news. They don't even need to be in power of our federal government when the Hydra known as Mainstream Media will lie, lie, lie, spin, spin, spin, all the untrue cr@p on their behalf until their "useful idiot" base believes it to be gospel! They stick with it and eventually it reaches the impressionable ears of "independents", they are the ones at the end of the day who decide the final outcome of elections. Not just the dems or the republicans alone.

Shame on the media and any dem politician who parrots this lie, especially you Jill Tokuda lying useless c^&+


I hope the GOP doesn't give in because 1 year form now, the DNC will do the same.

To the GOP DONT GIVE IN! DON'T GIVE IN! DONT GIVE IN! DON'T GIVE IN! DONT GIVE IN! DON'T GIVE IN!

Westside_Redneck

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #105 on: November 07, 2025, 03:18:02 PM »
i was in washington dc the end of october and there were big banners on the union buildings supporting trump and the gop agins the shutdown
forgot to take pictures...

They are going to have to make noise soon against the Dems if they want this sham of a poltical standoff to end! Direct all their Ire at Schumer, that piece of $#!+ deserves what's coming to him!

QUIETShooter

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2025, 04:56:42 PM »
Hey democrats.  Think about those who won't be eating turkey and it's fixins while all of you stuff your f*ckn faces with it.


I think it would be great for the DC area airports to be shutdown due to ATC and TSA shortages.  Congress stranded in DC over the holidays would be poetic justice.

Flapp is spot on.  Shut down the DC airports.  All of them.  Now.  If America can't travel to be with their families and have Thanksgiving, then congress won't either.

Cry America a river, congress critters.  The fact that you are still getting paid while causing the nation so much pain is shameful, criminal, and downright evil.

F*ck.  All.  Of.  You.  (and everything about you.) :wave:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #107 on: November 07, 2025, 08:07:34 PM »
It's been great finding out how much we don't need government
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #108 on: November 07, 2025, 09:17:34 PM »
It's been great finding out how much we don't need government
Since government is their god, when it’s shut down, they become formless shades, wailing here, wailing there…

Their wailing lulls me to a deep sleep each night, and somehow the days are sunnier.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #109 on: November 07, 2025, 09:35:20 PM »

I hope that this government shutdown will hurt the Dems worse 10x than the Republicans come the midterms!

At this point I am in favor of keeping that government shut down until the "useful idiots" that make up 85% of the party at this point wake up and smell the fat $#!+ coffee they are being served by their selfish senators (looking at you Bozo & $hatz).

I hope the useful idiots come to their f@#%ing senses and turn on their blue-@$$3d constituents when it comes to voting time, seeing them as the ones to blame for the 2 1/2 (possibly +) months worth of pain they caused.

NY, CA, NJ, VA were all off-season elections that purely banked on the short term pain of the government shutdown and months of media driven TDS. The movement against them has got to remain united, America first, constitution first, and no in-fighting EVER!

It's good to have diversity of ideas but PLEASE until we secure a super majority next midterm keep your zionist conspiracy theories, uniparty black-pilling, tariff tantrums, and isolationist idiocy to your GOD D@MNED SELVES!!!  >:(
Amen brother.

As general Sherman said, “War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”

It’s as fitting for the Democrat’s current confederacy as it was for their first.
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Rocky

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #110 on: November 08, 2025, 09:21:32 AM »
It's been great finding out how much we don't need government
   My thoughts exactly.
As I don't  expect them to do anything or depend on them (feed me, subsidize my rent, unemployment check, fix the pot holes, protect me or keep crime in check) I'm missing nothing.

   Besides, wasn't this CR supposed to just get us thru November 21st ?
That's less than 2 weeks away.
If we ride the shutdown till the 21st, what happens then ?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #111 on: November 08, 2025, 11:28:49 AM »
   My thoughts exactly.
As I don't  expect them to do anything or depend on them (feed me, subsidize my rent, unemployment check, fix the pot holes, protect me or keep crime in check) I'm missing nothing.

   Besides, wasn't this CR supposed to just get us thru November 21st ?
That's less than 2 weeks away.
If we ride the shutdown till the 21st, what happens then ?
GOP senators are talking about amending the CR so it ends in Jan or later, 

if the Senate amends the expiration date, the bill will need to be sent back to the House for a final vote after the Senate passes it.

John Thune Says the Senate Will Likely Have to
Change the Date of the Funding Bill — And Quickly

Quote
Thune said he was open to extending the date to January or beyond.

“The longer runway, the better,” he said.

“The idea that we could get any appropriations bills done by Nov. 21,
now, that date is lost. So it’s a question now of what’s the next one.”

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson has been firm in his decision not
to bring the House back in session until the Senate passes a CR.
Amending the date would require the House approving the change
after the Senate passes a new bill.
https://www.notus.org/congress/john-thune-shutdown-republican-cr-vote

Some Democrats did vote for the current continuing resolution (CR), including Senators John Fetterman, Catherine Cortez Masto, and Angus King. Republican Rand Paul voted against the bill.

The last senate vote was 54-44.  As it stands, the Senate needs 6 more Democrats to vote "yes".  If they can change Paul's vote, then only 5  are needed.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #112 on: November 08, 2025, 10:42:43 PM »
The sadistic evil 5th column (called the Democrat party) has shut down the government, while screeching about how awful what they are doing is to their meatpuppet drones, who in turn reflexively blame the party that continues to vote yes on a resolution that continues current funding to open the government, which the Democrat party is blocking.  Rinse, repeat.

All the while, their sea of meatpuppets is sinking deeper into real fear, emotional trauma, and rage, day by day, as their mothership of worship and sustenance, the “government” is in stasis - apparently fearing that it may die or something.

This is the naked reality here.

These are not just people with a different outlook with respect to how a civil society should best be run under our Constitution: No, this is a   totally    alien    race.

We and they cannot coexist in the same space and time, period.  If you haven’t yet gotten fully used to this bleak circumstance, the hour is getting late, especially for us here so far behind enemy lines.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #113 on: November 09, 2025, 12:18:38 PM »
GOP has a modified bill they want to replace the house bill.  it would fund the government at current levels through Jan 31.  It would also fund the VA, Congress and the US Dept of Agriculture until the end of the fiscal year (Sept 30).  Funding USDA would mean Food Stamps (EBT), WIC and other USDA-managed food programs would continue without a delay in benefits.

A "test" vote may be held this afternoon if the GOP Senators think they have the 60 votes needed to invoke cloture and bypass the filibuster.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6384871976112
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2025, 05:57:22 PM »
Went onto C-Span and watched the live results from the Senate.

Senate has the minimum 60 votes needed to invoke cloture -- no more filibustering.

That's step one.  Now they need to pass the bill itself and let the House vote on it.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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zippz

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2025, 08:28:51 PM »
Exactly 60 votes seems suspicous.  I suspect most Democrats wanted the shutdown to be over but had to save face by just getting the minimum yea votes so they can continue to complain.

So the ACA goes back to it's original subsidy next year.  I think there will still be a blame game but I don't see another shutdown happening.  Most people will be able to afford the increase in healthcare.  The increased subsidies only made up $40 billion (or $450 billion over 10 years) out of the $1.5 trillion the Democrats were demanding during the shutdown.

Overall Republicans won.  People on SNAP will get their food.  Federal employees are gravitating towards Republicans.  Democrats lost respect from their own side.

ren

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #116 on: November 09, 2025, 08:58:28 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/11/10/we-are-not-done-with-this-fight-hawaii-senators-reject-deal-reopen-government/

The U.S. Senate voted Sunday to move forward on passing legislation that would reopen the federal government.

But it did so without the support of Hawaii’s two senators.

Both Sens. Mazie Hirono and Brian Schatz said the compromise, which does not include a guaranteed extension of health care subsidies, fails to address rising health care costs for millions of Americans.

“We are not done with this fight,” said Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii. “We are going to keep fighting to try to salvage this situation for the tens of millions of Americans who are going to see their health care costs double.”
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QUIETShooter

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #117 on: November 09, 2025, 09:20:52 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/11/10/we-are-not-done-with-this-fight-hawaii-senators-reject-deal-reopen-government/

The U.S. Senate voted Sunday to move forward on passing legislation that would reopen the federal government.

But it did so without the support of Hawaii’s two senators.

Both Sens. Mazie Hirono and Brian Schatz said the compromise, which does not include a guaranteed extension of health care subsidies, fails to address rising health care costs for millions of Americans.

“We are not done with this fight,” said Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii. “We are going to keep fighting to try to salvage this situation for the tens of millions of Americans who are going to see their health care costs double.”


The bozo and the sh*t head.

Why are most of us not surprised.  Not even their colleagues on Capitol Hill.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2025, 11:35:53 PM »
The bozo and the sh*t head.

Why are most of us not surprised.  Not even their colleagues on Capitol Hill.
I can see Trump getting his veto pen ready and telling Schumer, "That's a nice beefy spending bill you have there, Chucky.  it would be a shame if anything were to happen to it."

It would be an appropriate troll of the Dems for Trump to post a little blurb saying he's not sure if he'll veto it or not, just to add to the drama!

 :thumbsup: :geekdanc: :rofl:   :popcorn:
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changemyoil66

Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2025, 10:01:10 AM »
Exactly 60 votes seems suspicous.  I suspect most Democrats wanted the shutdown to be over but had to save face by just getting the minimum yea votes so they can continue to complain.

So the ACA goes back to it's original subsidy next year.  I think there will still be a blame game but I don't see another shutdown happening.  Most people will be able to afford the increase in healthcare.  The increased subsidies only made up $40 billion (or $450 billion over 10 years) out of the $1.5 trillion the Democrats were demanding during the shutdown.

Overall Republicans won.  People on SNAP will get their food.  Federal employees are gravitating towards Republicans.  Democrats lost respect from their own side.

Word is the DNC who voted for it are not up for re-election.