Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets? (Read 4739 times)

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Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« on: January 30, 2013, 12:46:16 PM »
My rifle permit expired but I have 2 unpaid speeding tickets.  Will that affect getting my permit updated.  Even an unpaid parking ticket at HPD parking structure while getting my permit last year.  I am going to pay for them in february,but I don't want to go down HPD, and do everything just to get rejected and waste my time standing in lines. 

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Cougar8045

Re: Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2013, 01:18:55 PM »
I had to go take care of a ticket before getting my permit once.  I got a ticket for no insurance and a moving violation, my (ex) wife paid the tickets, and I thought I was good to go.  Turned out that for a no-insurance ticket you MUST make a court appearance; you can't just pay the fine.  Anyway, I had to go over to the courthouse and pay a $100 bond because there was a bench warrant out for missing the court date (oops!) before I could register the pistols I had brought in from out of state, although they were nice enough to not arrest me on the bench warrant.  So yeah, I would pay up any outstanding fines you have before you bother going  down to HPD to register anything.
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Re: Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2013, 02:47:08 PM »
Wow, I didn't realize "prohibited person" went that far.
I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

Cougar8045

Re: Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 05:56:33 PM »
Wow, I didn't realize "prohibited person" went that far.
Haha, I don't actually know how far it goes.  I missed a court date I didn't realize I had, and they issued a bench warrant.  Since I'm such a law abiding fellow, I was a fugitive from justice for about two years before I walked in to the police station to register guns.  I suppose there's some logic to not allowing people who have active arrest warrants out register more guns...
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Re: Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2013, 07:55:22 PM »
Wow, I didn't realize "prohibited person" went that far.

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Re: Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2013, 12:36:21 AM »
Haha, I don't actually know how far it goes.  I missed a court date I didn't realize I had, and they issued a bench warrant.  Since I'm such a law abiding fellow, I was a fugitive from justice for about two years before I walked in to the police station to register guns.  I suppose there's some logic to not allowing people who have active arrest warrants out register more guns...

Heh.  Understandable.

But having been acquainted with various low-lifes, degenerates, and reprobates at various periods of my life, I had heard war stories about unknown bench warrants.

So I was careful to get documentation of a pre-hearing dismissal of a license plate case I had. 

Long story short, I'd mixed up the month stickers on my truck and my car plates, resulting in my driving around with "falsified" plates.  This was an actual criminal offense instead of merely a trafffic offense.

I carried that documentation around in my car for a couple of years, since I had heard war stories about unknown bench warrants from some of the low-life, degenerate, and reprobate acquaintances I had known at various periods of my life.

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« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 12:51:08 AM by 230RN »
I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

Kingkeoni

Re: Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2013, 06:17:09 AM »
Heh.  Understandable.

But having been acquainted with various low-lifes, degenerates, and reprobates at various periods of my life...

And that's just my family.

 :rofl:

Long story short, I'd mixed up the month stickers on my truck and my car plates, resulting in my driving around with "falsified" plates.  This was an actual criminal offense instead of merely a trafffic offense.

In some states, they can convict you of a felony for this offense.

My brother did the same thing in California.

He had to go to court when they tried to charge him with felony falsifying government documentation or something like that.

Luckily he had a good attorney who explained that it was a simple mistake and he wasn't convicted of anything.
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Re: Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2013, 08:36:14 AM »
Well, I actually buttonholed the prosecutor before the session started and convinced her that what happened was I had asked for a replacement month sticker at the License Plate Place.  No big deal, I handed her my registration and the clerk just picked up a little envelope with the proper month sticker in it and handed it to me and that was that.

"Next!"

Except I had handed her my truck registration instead of for my car, so I got the wrong month.  I didn't really look at the registration forms with my "registration form" glasses, just my  "driving" glasses, so I didn't realize it.

So I was driving along one day and there was a cop car behind me, which didn't concern me until they lit me up.  WTH?  They had been checking plates as they were driving along, and caught that.

They actually took my rear plate off with a screwdriver and pliers, but I had pop-riveted the front plate on and they couldn't take that.  I asked how I was supposed to get home, and they said walk or take a bus.  So I waited for a good half hour and started up the car and drove it home via back streets with no rear plate.

I used the truck to get to the courhouse.

Now, see, if I had been convicted of that as a felony, as in California (it was only a misdemeanor here), that would have knocked out my 2a rights for life.

So now I wonder if the anti-gunners are missing the boat here.  They don't have to ban guns to choke off ownership.  All they have to do is make every pissant technical violation a felony.

As some wiseguy said after Martha Stewart was convicted of felonious stock manipulations, "I feel so much safer now, knowing that Martha Stewart can no longer own a gun."

Phew!  <sigh of relief>  I feel safer, too.

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« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 08:53:30 AM by 230RN »
I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

Cougar8045

Re: Firearm permit vs. speeding tickets?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2013, 08:46:12 AM »
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So now I wonder if the anti-gunners are missing the boat here.  They don't have to ban guns to choke off ownership.  All they have to do is make every pissant violation a felony.

Terry, 230RN
Aye, there's the rub, and I think they're doing it already.  They don't even need to make stuff a felony; just keep expanding the POS Lautenberg Amendment to include everything else.  It's already illegal to own guns if you've been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence; the next step will be all misdemeanor crimes of violence, then petty theft (because who could argue with keeping guns away from thieves?  For the children!), then any misdemeanor which, in the opinion of the Director of the BATFEIEIO constitutes moral turpitude. 
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

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